Grand Admiral Dude, my personnal question shouldn't have given the impression that the Thrawn stuff was consider more 'real' than other Eu stuff! If you think about it for a sec, it would contradict this thread's main point! I made the suggestion we not use the EU because by and large it's so the efforts of so many, so beyond GL's mind; where do you draw the line! For every well thought out bit of EU SW mythos I can come back and batter you with absolute childish crap from 70's Marvel comics, or utter rubbish like my dreadful experiance with 'Darksaber,' whilst floating on a boat of the coast of Spain. Who desides what's in or simply ludicrous as far as as the SW mythos goes? Personnally I think it would be wise to draw the line at the movies; all of you lot have of course the right to utterly disagree with my spontanious decision to throw my copy into the mediterranean in disgust; if you considered it a good read then well cool. There were obvious non-Stormtrooper Imperial soldiers in the movies; those otherwise rebel troopers if they weren't wearing black, unreferenced in the movies. But they were equiped with guns and stood on guard, so they must have been Imperial soldiers of sorts. Given we get to see so little of the larger galaxy in the movies maybe these are are mainstray Imperial soldiers other than Stormtroopers.