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I wonder if we would have preferred to be addressed as a General or as a Master...

I don't think GAT was defeding the movies, he was simply being objective. There are lots of passionate arguments against the prequels saying as much as: Kill Jar-Jar in a cruel manner to make them better. Something which is completely absurd. Either way the original Star Wars was also targeted it at kids, for the kids of the 70s of course. He has said repatedly that he 'based' Star Wars on the matinees he watched and enjoyed as a child, and on the adeventures of Flash Gordon. (I'm talking story-wise here, we all know cinematographically he inspired himself greatly on Kurosawa). Think back to when you first saw Star Wars, you were probably two or three when SW premiered, so you probably didn't see it then, but you first definitely saw it as a child, and began to like it as a child. Most fans saw the movies when they were children and grew up with them. Coincidences in what sense? If you mean the plot I can agree with your dislike, the prequels have brought for nothing original and follow more or less a similar formula with the original movies. If you mean characters, I think Lucas should have build SW around the older chars from the OT. (Palpy, Vader, Tarkin, Motti, Chewie, Dodonna, Mothma and Organa and Threepio and Artoo). I admit having Anakin build Threepio is too farfetched too my taste and was another turndown in the long list of disappointments in the prequels. As I said before SW movies were always targeted at kids, that was part of the reasons it became such a hit. What the prequels lack is good writers and good directing, story wise the story isn't bad (even if the policial backset is a bit light for my taste) if you have to fill a 2-hour-movie with stupid jokes it's because you couldn't find a good writer to fill those gaps with plot development (Personally I think that EI and eII could have been merged). The love affair between a Jedi and a Senator could have been made better, with better writing, directing or acting and even a plot twist here and there. I hate the way it's portrayed too, and I often make fun of the lines used in the movie because they're stupid. You'll see the materialization of your argument occur in Episode III and that will be the cause of Anakin's ultimate downfall. I have always disagreed with Yoda's fight scene. That's something that should never have happened because that destroys Yoda's OT characterization. 'War does not make one great'. On Geonosis Yoda's priority was to save Obi-Wan and Anakin, not land a pillar on Dooku. The Jedi aren't an elite commando unit with the purpose of destroying evil, they are a spiritual order. The power that makes them so special flows from life, so killing a being is 'diminishing' them. Using their gifts to kill other more effectvely would contradict their beliefs. If you look at the movies, none of the Jedi has used the Force to kill any one. You ask about Ben, how many people has Obi-Wan killed on film? Only Darth Maul. Even in ANH he spared tha Aqualish's life, even if he had threatened to kill Luke which was the only reason Obi-Wan still needed to live. I think everyone around here knows they sucked. They sucked because of the poor writing and acting and directing. And you made him rich when you were ten or five or whatever you were when you first watched them. We are making him rich by making SW such an important part of our lives to actually argue about it on the Internet. I agree with you that they failed to match the OT, that they lacked the realism, the strength of other movies. But it's a symptom of time, excepting LOTR there has not been any great movies in the past years. There have been grand productions and intelligent movies, but nothing really great. None of the movies I've seen will ever become classics of movie history. If compared to other movies of this time I'd even dare say Prequel SW is above the average. They aren't mediocre but they aren't entirely devoted to fighting. Did you expect Mace to come from Coruscant with a massive Jedi Army that happened to be there? Most Jedi Mace could have gathered were probably counselors, ambassadors, mediators. I doubt they are able to put up a good fight. I think they are quite violent. Even the name suggest something bellicous, we have droid armies programmed to kill, we have clones bred to kill, we have Jedi who have become generals and soldiers and we have at least one chopped limb per movie. Violence doesn't mean to have explicit gruesome killing scenes in the movies, it's the mental image they create, the feeling it leaves behind. A scene filled with lasers on all direction and dozens of [insert cannonmeat here]'s bodies on the floor dead is defeinitely aggressive and violent. Personally adding unneeded violence would definitely make the film more childish, as it's the same as adding Jar Jar's jokes [we don't have any good plot device and must fill this scene with the massacre of droids, soldiers, etc because that's what kids [or weird adults] want to see anyway]. I didn't like him, nor did I like Ewoks or Salacious Crumb or Boba Fett, to me they are all 'retarded at best'. They were all thrown in to appeal to some particular public sector. IMHO, SW could have done without either of them. Finally, I want to say that I don't like the prequels. I found them too 'light', they don't deepen things were they should; they are too shallow and immature. They are badly written, and succumb to the pressure of having a story, to which everyone already knows it's ending, and to keep up with the originals. Both factor definitely limit the story telling part of it and Lucas is too old. If he only directed one movie in the 70s. He definitely shouldn't have directed three in the last decade. But they aren't the worst thing to happen to Star Wars (Ewoks movies and a Holiday special definitely top that list). If you don't like them do as I do and don't watch them. I haven't seen TPM since 00, and AOTC since I saw it in theaters. If ROTS is as bad as I fear it can be then I'll watch and that's it if not (and I hope it's not bad) then it'll find a place into my DVD collection. As someone(Jahled?) else said in another thread Star Wars exists only in your mind where you can take out all that stuff you don't like and replace it with your own. (The Magic of Imagination). And before you start speculating about my age I'll tell you I'm 19.

I know that... But I'm tired of everyone in the forums simply asking someone else for a link, or a quick answer... Come on, it's just a few mouse-clicks and there isn't a huge think process behind it...

As for the officer thing, there's word that a younger Captain Tarkin will appear at some point of ROTS, so this proves that nearing the end of the Clone Wars there were already normal human officers serving the Republic/Empire. I think we could safely speculate that if Palpatine had planned to annihilate the Jedi at the end of the Clone Wars he would have definitely begin to train, recruit or otherwise obtain officers that would replace the Jedi as commanders of his armies. And eventually build forward to a balance between 'natural' officers and members of the naval corps (which aren't clones in the OT) and the cloned stormtrooper and fighter pilots (though their might be some natural recruits in the latter two).

The problem with your reasoning SOCL is that you are talking about modern things, Star Wars is essentially medieval. If you think about the Jedi you have to think of a cross between Samurai and Templar (Or any other Knight Order of the Middle Ages). AS for the force first, lightsaber second, take the Templars they were also a spiritual order but had also an active 'military' participation during the Crusades. Think of the Lightsaber not as a weapon but rather as a symbol declaring the user to be a Jedi. Nor Samurai nor Templar were seen as civilians, nor seen as members of the nobility. They had a special place in that era's hierarchy. So were the Jedi, their status as Force-users already marked a line between them and the rest of the galaxy, they have no participation in politics (other than being called to mediate (sometimes)) and they weren't involved with the military until the Clone Wars. (And even then, they were Jedi first, Generals and Commander second.) As for Leia referring to Obi-Wan as General Kenobi, it may have been as simple as her 'father' having told her about a General Kenobi from the Clone Wars and never having mentioned that Kenobi was a Jedi.

Yep it's true. About the storyline: there's an article in the In-Site Encyclopeida and a Encyclpedia Thread in RPG - 1 have a look into them and you'll get the basics of the Rapora Wars.

I find your aggressiveness disturbing... Do you pull other people's arms out of their sockets when you lose at chess?

It's been a while since I read anything about Physics, even if I liked them pretty much. These days my entire existence is center in the horrid C++... I hate you Stroustrup, I hate you!

The few SW Lego I have is in my room next to other items of my Collection, some other nice models (A plane, one of the smaller spaceships are somewhere else in my room). Much of my other LEGO is my huge plastic LEGO BOX waiting to be played with.

Wasn't Einstein ultimate goal to create the 'Unified Field' Theory. (At least in Spanish it's called Teoría del Campo Unificado, I simply tried to translate it directly).

The Lambada Shuttle is what Vader, Palpy and Tarkin take when going to Río de Janeiro. Vader even changes his black suit for something brighter and happier, while Palpy uses his summer cloak and has Tarkin help him apply his Baby Lotion Sunblock Level 256 (For Dark Side users). Ikeda, he didn't miss the sarcasm he simply was being even more sarcastic, and even more BEAKy.

Portuguese? It's closed and xxxx is inside?

WOO!!! You should have said something like... "For more insane SW fans check swrebellion.com" Or tell George to give us the Reb sourcecode...

This is wrong. SImply wrong. That's the ultimate proof that money makes you stupid. On the other hand if you guys can come up with $15000, I will change my name to swrebellion.com... Weird foodstuff... Verydisturbing.

We in Latinamerica get some of the documentaries about a year later...

I agree with LLF's assessment of the ... the ... thing... Scary.

I read somewhere that they'll play a role in the post-NJO books. (I'm not sure if it's in the trilogy or in the enealogy that follows it.)

Even Imperial Regiments are updated, they've fought a war against the Vong they must have done some military revamping in those 8 years after... (Plus I'm tired of being massacred against the Rapora)

I must disagree with Jahled to some extent, ESB is the favorite Star Wars movie for most fans, because it is the darkest of them all. But it was dark because of the plot, not because of massacres and big space battles. Partly, I think, ESB's success was due to have had the big battle at the beginning and afterwards build up the dark atmosphere of retreating Rebels, despaired Jedi trainee, etc. ROTS, from all we've seen and all Lucas has said over the Internet is about 60% action sequences, leaving way too little time for creating that dark atmosphere. I'd rather have a slower paced darker movie with a smarter plot, than having a psychodelic aggressive action movies, that makes up for the lack of intelligence of the writers with the magic abilities of choreographers and sfx boys. As for acting, I doubt I'll feel the conflict that Vader/Anakin should feel all over ROTS. Hayden simply cannot pull that off. Other than good old Palpy, and perhaps Obi-Wan I'd expect the acting to be just as it was in AOTC. I don't doubt that ROTS will be the best of the prequels but I sincerely doubt that it can be better than the OT Movies. Either way I will be at the premiere, very excited waiting for it finally to open... The Syfo-Dias issue will not be expalined in the movie (at least not in great detail) somewhere I read that that had been dealt with in the EU.

After watching those terribly bad trailers, I decided not to waste my money on that.

That's for pointing him in the right direction, SWA. As this has been answered elsewhere, and that I know Mask's fingers will go on strike if he has to explain yet once again the VSD model issue, I'll close the Topic and Sticky the other one.

RebED display models in a different way than the game does. So the 'preview' in RebEd may not be accurate, try looking at it in-game...

Even if we return to the original topic, Scath will tell us that we have completely lost it again...

Has any ever, been too spamful for you, Scath?