Trejiuvanat

Hey! Welcome guys, A couple of things first: Darth_Rob: Your avatar is way to big, try to reduce it to something smaller (100x100ish). Xeelee: No need to be hasty. No need to put CAPS and smilies all over. The question has been dealt before and should probably pop up if you had done a quick search for it. In RebEd play with the weapon recharge. More turbolasers only make out for a stronger blast, it's the recharge that defines the speed of shooting. Also the 'mass alteration' option on the right can help you fix this setting for the other ships as well. Play around with RebEd until you find settings that satisfy you.

Aye, but I think we could call this the SW-Movie-Aftermath effect... After seeing ROTS lots of people may have remembered that they had some SW stuff at home, including old copies of Rebellion... Typing Rebellion or something in the likes in google willl eventually drag you here. Thus more people join, and post around. So for all new members: WELCOME!

A nice list: I'd add the Enemy Lines Duology just for some completeness and for Allston's style.

Hey I had missed this, uni first then the site shut down. Congrats Kryt!!!

That Sketch is pretty good, there's another SNL sketch about a "first look" at AOTC and about N'sync being in the movie.

Interesting theory, it fits well with Lucas's approaches to masks. (Every character is concealed behind a mask, only after each one deals with his 'fate' will he remove the mask) Fitting if you think that Palpy has now revealed his nature and consumed his revenge he no longer needs his mask, while Vader must now hide behind a mask. In the novelization I think I read something as Palpy saying: 'And the mask becomes the man, I will miss the face of Palpatine but the face of Sidious will now work".

The Simpsons, from the Springfield Film Festival in which the Imperial March is played when the action cuts to MR Burns's office, or Chewbacca Guest Starring in the 'Springfield Files', or the Randal Curtis Episode, with Randall Curtis being the Simpson version of Lucas. Many many many movies have lots of SW References, there's also JAy and Silent Bob Strike back, Mallrats, Clerks...

Hmmm... This looks like a trick question... For MP3 I use Winamp, for short videos I use Windows Media, for long videos I use VideoLan and for DVDs I use the Intervideo Player.

About that last thing, I agree with you, he balanced the numbers between the Sith and the Jedi. With each side having one master and one knight. Also about the opening battle, I tend to agree about focusing too much on tactics would deviate from the Anakin and Obi, but at least one scene before they actually enter the Invisible Hand about teh strategy in battle would have been better. Instead of too much buzzdroids. After seeing ROTS once again (third time's the charm?) I find the verbal interaction of Dooku and Anakin appropriate, there was not much to say to each otehr, but in the Obi-Anakin duel I really found it too lacking in teh verbal duel, they fight 'sliently' for too long. I guess Lucas wanted to avoid 'one-liner' pauses and cuts to the Senate Duel, but there were plenty of moments where Anakin could have taunted Obi more. (That Clone Wars line: As for your wisdom, you are not Qui-Gon Jinn, would have worked or something else to make Kenobi face that he did fail him and put more wight into his admission of failure. But oh well.

Send that to supershadow so he can put that on his site... Seriously, you really are GL, aren't you?

*Charges weapon. I agree with you about the OT having its own problems, Ewoks being the greater of them all. But Ewoks are there for a reason: There was no money to make Wookiees, even the name Ewok is a deformation from the name Wookiee. (Say Wookie many times rapidly). SW now has competition, that's right. But that's not the only thing. Lucas is kind of dephased, why was the Podrace a flop? Because no one was really interested in seeing a galactic adaptation of Ben Hur in Star Wars, only Lucas who wanted that particualr Roman Reference in his movies, combined with his interested for car races. Lucas also seemed hesistant, I think, because of the prequels taking up the plot into politics. In the OT he could mask the message of the movies better, now it is much more obvious: Powerful private economies, versus a Republic of mistrust and decaying moral value, combined with a powerful warmachine, and an powerhungry leader. Acting which is something we keep complaining wasn't that great in the OT, at least in the beginning: IT was Cushing's and Sir Alec's acting that kept the boat floating, opposed to a whiny acting by Hamill. It got better, which was to be expected, as has happened in the PT. Ewan has improved in everymovie, and both Nate and HAyden have improved. Liam neeson did a very good job in Ep I, and McDiarmid scenes were always the best in most movies, Smitts (Organa) really could have used more screentime. Except for some details, and that never-a-knight-in-the-council-stuff, Lucas kept with the continuity (we know he has not ever read a novel, so we cannot drag them in). Even so, I think the prequels are still above average combined to the competition, excepting LOTR of course. But the PT was above Matrix, above Dune, Stargate, the latest Star Trek stuff.

The Mandalorian stuff was dropped during ESB filiming and was forgotten, Lucas never intended to drag massive amounts of Mandalorians into the prequels.

I agree with Jahled, the Silmarillion is a master piece, I have read it multiple times, and I always get new stuff out of it...

This is more or less what i'm on about! Yu could say that the prequels are centered on Obi-Wan... Whole SW SAga: Rise and FAll of Anakin Skywalker E I - III: The adventures of OBi-WAn Kenobi and the Clone Wars E IV - VI: The Adventures of Luke Skywalker and the GAlactic Civil War.

I haven't played Kotor, but I have always thought the Madalorian would be more ... Spartan? Commander to the MAndalorian: Don't we need walls and defenses? Mandalorian: WE are the walls.

A Death Star is not necessarilly all the Rebellion stuff, Vader appearing in the game was to be expected, but what about the other characters? Controlling 30 characters perside when playing Rebellion was good, adn there were times when 30 simply was not enough. Also Cain you should be wary of those articles. They always write about the cool stuff of the game, never of any problem it might have or any down aspect to it. I'd rather wait and see, as Mad puts it. When it's out someone around ehre will eventually get it and I'll hear to a review of someone I can trust. Faceless notes from the gaming industry are always untrustworthy. I must say that graphically it looks good, I'd want to see how much 'ship variety' tehre is, and if the DS will work as in Reb, especially if one is to destory one. I'll try the videos tomorrow, or the day after that.

I can agree with most of what SM said, after seeing it a second time I can start to reform an analysis. I'll try to organize what I though was well done and what was missing. Coruscant Battle: As SM said, strategy is missing. It doesn't have to be Zahn-like Thrawnish strategy, but simple and effective (think ROTJ). If not for the crawling text one wouldn't know that the Seps are actually trying to escape. A Neimoidian here asking his troops to avoid the bulk of the Republic FLeet, and a ruthless Tarkin instructing all ships to block all possible exits, while a handful of daring Jedi execute the primary objective. Dooku: Dies too quick. More taunting during the duel, but the face of recognized betrayal when Palpy ask Anakin to kill ihm is priceless. A waste of a good actor in a role that coudl have done miracles for the prequels. Coruscant plottin' and lovin': As I said elsewhere the calmer, more sentimental scenes needed more development, though the acting could possibly not stand up to it, I would have prefered a longer more emotive dialogue between Padme and Anakin, a more tempting Palpatine. More Organa, too. There's plotting everywhere, and no one knows who too trust. (What if: We know Anakin loves, Padme but they don't share the same political view. Bring Organa along who is a nice guy and does have the same political views as her. Create a miniature love triangle, that will make Anakin doubt of the Senator and reinforce his faith in PAlpy.) Utapau: A great setting, vertiginous, good for a wild chase in an unusual terrain. Griveous was a disappointment. He is arguably the best appliance in the Sep household for blending or making puree, but not for a villian. A silly way to go out. Kashyyyk: If Geonosis was Iraq, then Kashyyyk was Vietnam. An amphibian environment, with savage wookiees. It could have been played out longer, and not only the beginning of the battle and stormies surveying for Yoda in the aftermath. Coruscant and back again: Knd of uncomfortable with all chars returning to Coruscant for anything, I couldn't see any other way, I did but that's a rant for another sectoin. Jedi Temple sequences were good, as was the 'arrest' of Palpatine. The declaration of the Empire should have been longer, and perhaps some more of the Order 66 deaths, they were well done. Duel Time: At times annoying to be switching landscapes, at times good to see the parallelism of the duel of fates. master vs master, knight vs knight, there's finally balance in the Force, though the prophecy was obvioulsy misread. Good duels, though more taunting from Anakin to OBi-Wan would have been welcome. Closing scenes: Appropriate, short succint, tying together what needed to be tied. -Or better yet: TIEd (love those fighters near the DS). Overall critics: Padme: She has a greatly reduced role, and though Nat isn't the best actress, PAdme being in the center of Anakin's evil may have requires some more scenes. Actoin: as I said elsewhere and SM has noted it too, too fast-paced. Too much going on, for two hours. But I guess Lucas was afraid of making this a three hour movie. Villians: Dooku goes out too quickly and GRiveous is a chicken in a droid's body. Once Palpy reveals himself, Dookua dn Griveous are distant memories. Everyone's favorite droid duo: They were necessary to the storytelling of the OT, then at times they were used not only for humor, but to represent a subconscient for the main chars (Luke mostly). There is a few scenes when they do actually talk about what a character (namely Anakin) is feeling. R2 action can be cheap at times, but I really prefer that too Jar-Jar. Arto can always make me laugh. The Prequel's ending: A good ending, but a compressed one. Which confirms my thoughts that Lucas gets better if given enough time. ANH was a process of at least 11 different scripts, he took his time to 'debug' everything in the first story. I doubt episode i underwent a similar cleansing. If the prequels had undergone a similar and thorough elaboration, the prequels would have gained much more quality. There a lot of good stuff in ROTS, and there were hints of smart stuff in eps I and II, but they were in the raw. Not yet carved out as the OT was. [whatif]Episode I is a good platform fort he political plot, but other wise it is useless. If finding an older Anakin had been incorporated into the beginning of AOTC and that would have been the first episode, with ROTS being fattened and split in two, the prequels would have been laid out better. The good things of the prequels needed far more screentime, screentime that was wasted in a blockade to a planet that no one actually cares for. Lucas many times seemed hesitant to build in more elaborate stuff into the movies. Afraid of kids not really understanding it, perhaps? In Eps II and III to add a Minister of War which could have been Tarkin, woudl have deepened the schism between the Jedi and the Republic. [/whatif]

I'll send you one later, when I'm back at my own pc.

Gnutella? Edonkey? Dvd? All of the above?

Jar Jar aka Lucas was smart enough not to let the Gungan say a word in the film. Perhaps it does not make him more itnelligent, but a silent JAr Jar is more intelligent than other stuff.

In most of his initial drafts he always wrote about Annikin who was the hero of the story, in the last drafts there is no Anakin only Luke. In the movie Anakin, though not mentioned by name, but in GL's notes probably well known as Anakin's father, is referred by Obi-wan to Luke. Originally intended to be a device to advance Luke's plot, provide him with a link to a greater nobler past, through a 'falic' (does that exist in english?) item a sword namely which psychologically has a huge effect. It's the father weapon, and luke has always wanted to follow the father's footsteps. The saga is originally played out to be that, Luke following the father's footsteps, joining with BEn Kenobi, become a Jedi like his father, become a great pilot like his father (deleted scene with REd Leader talking to luke about anakin skywalker being a great pilot). So Luke's father was always an important part of the story, because it added mystery and greatness. Whilst reading the paper in the 'thinking cubicle' (oddly abbreviated to WC) Lucas must have come to realize this: Masked Vader == Mystery; Luke's father == Mystery; Mystery + Mystery + Twist = $$$$$$$$$ He had laid them out to share many qualities. Both were Jedi, both good pilots. So he finally discovered how a great twist for ESB would be if Vader was in fact Luke's father. The moment he did this, the character of Vader finally took over the story. One wants to see the end of ROTJ, not because one wants Luke to triumph (one knows he will win), but because one has wanted to know how Vader ends. (Only at the end does one understand).

I have come to realize the essence of this game. There are two kinds of players, the ones that are rising, and the ones that rose and are now in declive. It is the latter that you want to attack. They rose fastly, attacked as crazies, then were braked and then started to fall, they still have sizable armies but low defense, they have good amounts of money because they maybe wanting to upgrade to a high-cost upgrade. when you are beginning to play because they seem rather strong with 1000+ armies in the 90000s ranks you don't fight them. I have now a 525 army and rank 59270, i take on those guys and get paid well.

The transformation was more a rapid decay corruption by the dark side, and though lightning did hit his face, there are no burn scars, he ages the more lightning he throws at .... ....., giving into infinite power.

I think (an unconfirmed statement, it must be proven if Trej is capable of thinking after watching ROTS): Lucas had an idea for a story. He wanted a hero, a hero that was free of an specific earth mythos, rather being a combination of all of earth's mythos. He came up with a story that was frankly too big. As he reduced it, much of the development of other characters was a mystery. Regardless he filmed the story and amde a hit. He had now the money to complete the story of that hero. He made it, to add a twist to that story Lucas made him confront the archetypical element in all myths: his ultimate enemy being the one person he would not kill. his father. the fight between father and son, becomes light vs dark and the tirumph of love over darkness. lucas made money, much money but in the end he felt that the story of the father needed to be told to be fully understood. In a twenty years lapse Lucas was frozen in carbonite and taken by boba fett to jabba, and when he returned he had come up with a light-pop culture story for the father, with some old post-its from the 70s, he might have sketched the sotry but i doubt lucas was only thinking of the present, never giving much thought to everything else. To keep in with tradition he would complete it in another three movie cycle. Though there are still mythical elements in play, the story of an anti-hero is not as quiet as exciting as the story of a young farmer who becomes the hero of the galaxy and even Kenobi's road is opaqued by Anakin's story and one does not fully appreciates how tiresome and harsh was Ben's path. In the end he has closed the circle. The trilogy is not linear, it's a ring. The ending of ROTJ, the showdown of Palpy and Luke, forces ne to be interested in the prequels, and when the prequels and one must continue witht he story of VAder. There is no place for anything else. Lucas of course will do what his wallet believes is right, but it would be wiser to keep it with six movies, and let Lucasfilm startrek* the franchise. *startrek is a verb used when an essentially good idea is ultimately extremely overdone in TV, books, comics or other form of mass media, and leading to the death of the franchise

Aye for the bad category: Midiclorians strike back. Out of place, unnecesary attempt to justify that crap of Ep I.