Jahled

..how many games this old are still supported by an active community... how many games with a Star Wars based theme allow for such freedom of imagination from the player.... oh, yeah, please tell us how to unlock stuff we can find with resource hacker but don't appear in the game; all those sounds, the Millenium Falcon in the tactical battle, and all those dlls that never show up....and lastly the game's source code...so the more adept amongst us can have the freedom to GET RID OF THE NATURAL DISASTER among other things....given the game developers have down jack shit over the years other than just sit on this precious information, whilst other people, here, have been trying to further develop and expand the game... Rant over! BTW: Do you something we don't, Scathe?

...errr...damn! Well I guess....err....do excuse me for a moment..... ..... .... .....(shuffle) ..... ....AGHAAAAAAAAAA!............CRASH.... ...aghaa! I'm now in serious pain! Ouch!

...emmm...thanks Zoot for cussing me in public. If any of you fellow dudes think i've been alone on my space hopper Click here, because we like kylie on a spacehopper! Woo Yey guys!!!

Dude if you need free web space become a member of one of my MSN passport sites here: http://www.groups.msn.com/YodasEars And upload your stuff to the documents...or what ever, you automatically get 3 MGs of personal space....gibber...put it there!

Ok, here's some very basic tactics I use at the start of most battles. This is assuming fleets are reasonably matched, with say a swing of 30% in either way. Given I am Imperial to the core, I shall assume I am of course the glorious Galactic Empire! First I direct all my Lancer Frigates, Corellian Gunships, Assualt Transports, and any Corellian Corvettes I might have to SURROUND and target FIGHTERS. If i've got an Interdictor Cruiser caught up in one of their task forces I create a new fleet and give it the same order of battle, other wise it will slow down the rest of the task force it is assigned to. My Star Destroyers, Victory's and Strike Cruisers are ordered to target enemy capital ships. I hold back all of my fighters and assign them to move to a the nearest node by bringing up the first navigation point. There they gather. The AI always sends it's fighters into the frey, targeting your fighters that are most dangerous to it's Capital Ships; for the Empire, TIE Bombers and TIE Defenders. Launching the battle, obviously my Lancers, Gunships, and Assualt Transports quickly pull away from the slower Star Destroyers and begin to destroy or damage attacking fighter squadrons.Given I haven't yet assigned my fighters orders of battle, the enemy fighters will race past my Cruisers and Destroyers, and my frigates and Gunships will follow. When the timing is right, I will engage my fighters. TIES & Intercepters on SURROUND, and Defenders on STANDOFF. Given my TIE Bombers are the priority target for the enemy I will usually hold them back untill the last possible moment and then HAMMER to a mid-table navigation point close to my fleet. They will move as my fighters are engaging and still keep enemy fighters in range of my Lancers and Gunships. At this stage BTW my Lancers and Gunships are behind my Star Destroyers and thus protected from enemy capital ships, even the dreaded; seldom deployed,dreaded CC-9600 Frigate with it's awesom speed and turbo laser range of 75! The enemy fighters can now be contained behind the lines of my Star Destroyers, assuming you play with the navigation points with your TIE Bombers. Assuming the fleets are reasonably matched, by this stage the AI's fighters should begin to be decimated, by the combined TIE's and Lancers. The Capital ships should also begin to be engaging; now the Defenders and Bombers can go! SURROUND and target capital ships. By this stage, the enemy's Corvettes, Nebulon Frigates, and Escourt Carriers will be targets for your Star Destroyers, long before you engage the cruisers; they're blindly chasing your fighters behind the wall of Star Destroyers. ...then on it depends on the circumstances of the particular battle you are engaged in! But my tactic has achieved two extremely important things. The first is to draw the AI's fighters behind my Destroyers and Cruisers for good hunting for my Lancers, Gunships, and Corvettes, the second is in by holding back my fighters, i've drawn the AI's Corvettes, Escourts and Nebulons ahead of their larger capital ships. I must confess to being fairly basic at this stage, especially concerning Navigation points. If the opposition is at the end of the day overwelming, I will target the enemy CC-7700 Frigate with fighters at the first stage in order to give myself the opportunity to withdraw, as Admiral Thrawn stated previously. That actually leads onto a very important point concerning the deployment of squadrons of fighters on systems. Between 16-18 Squadrons of TIE-Bombers or TIE-Defenders on any system is enough to destroy a CC-7700 Frigate regardless of the size of virtually any fleet attacking your system, and allow any capital ships to escape; but also give you the benefit of system support of having destoyed an enemy capital ship! So don't get to paranoid about capital ships when CC-7700 Frigates and Interdictor Cruisers enter the fray! The AI never protects ships as a tactic, so if you have enough fighter squadrons, you can always destroy them, and command your galaxy enjoying the benefit of having capital ships protecting systems from enemy missions. I would be very interested to read how other people use the navigation points in the tactical battle, as with fleet manoevres; it's something i've only just begun to touch on! What do you guys think? BTW: Somebody please tell me how to make screen shots of the tactical battle, and where to paste them!!!

How would you like me to hurt myself, Scathane? 1. Rush across the room and head butt the computer? 2. Try and drop kick my TV out of the window? 3. Climb out of my window and attempt to climb onto my roof? 4. Boil some water in a pan and put my head into it? 5. ...or just head butt my keyboard from where I am? Interesting post BTW!

Can you guys get British TV in Holland?

DARN! I just spent twenty blasted minutes writing a post and my computer crashed! (Send error report to Microsoft sort of thing)... When i've calmed down i'll write it again.

Jahled has forgotten if he has posted thisbefore. Please moderate your language in your hate mail to me if I already have.

A late WOOO!!! A late YAY!!!! WOO YAY! Congrats SOCL!!!

Yeah i've read that. It's a brilliant piece of complete overkill analysis! The holocaust on Endor made me laugh, as did the conclusion that the crew was around 30,000,000! Ok, how the hell do you keep up the logistics of a crew that size? Interesting reading but concrete evidance of the underlining fantasy of the Star Wars saga.... ....... .........

Religious/environmental badge? What do you mean? I take it by the Zoot-icon that Zoot is the reason you are falling out of your chair (that or beer--I mean lager). ...upon some reflection, i'm not entirely certain what I meant...so ignore your first quote of mine, except that respecting the soil and the wind is cool....errr....ummm...I think I logged out after posting what you quoted from...and went to bed....

...errr...sorry to confuse everyone...(that's usually SOCL's field)...I meant Dude21...I think...err....ummm....

Good man, because without the religious/environmental badge, so am I! I'll discuss this jmore with yoiu when i'm not about to fall off my chair..http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0QAAAADATjGz1C60c6ZngzEolejwkGYEdNUacS!4UeogKE2m7VLVYaum44Tpymx4piDVZfBJEaqFqAL5IrLMWqQK6TvXcLUMtAAAAAAAAAAA/Zoot.gif?dc=4675424763527443726

No offence was detected!!!

Woo! Sorry dude! I'm not mad!

Dude, whatever you post...well hell, i've just got this large white suited guy with a stick.... AGHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whatever he got banned for; language, insults, stupidity, whatever; he screwed up on his first chance. If it's his most loved game, as Dude94 said, then at least give the dude a chance to repair any insults that might have been exchanged and get back on track with the game we all love... ...

God damn you, you fiend! It get's tricky remembering what animated crap i've posted without images; especially after loads of Zoot-free cans of Fosters that have found there way down my gob. Take this for old time's sake, SOCL you fiend-master! SOCL is a hippy in disguise...

http://www.boyblue.co.uk/stuff/penguins.gif I can't seem to code this...maybee because i'm dim and live up a tree... mutter...mumble....

Ok, I reckon we'ld all agree the best bit of the game for all of us is the tactical battle, where we get to use those fleets of Star Destroyers and Mon Calamari Cruisers we've waited patiently for ages to build and assemble in battle! I'm curious, what sort of tactics do we use? It's taken me a while to get to grips with the advanced tactical interphase and options, but i've realized if you use them you can take far larger fleets and get results! ...Your thoughts gentlemen.

If you want a visual correct clarification of how much bigger the second Death Star was to the first; visit this excellant website: http://mirror.wolffelaar.nl/zardalu.sytes.net/index.html The Second Death Star: http://mirror.wolffelaar.nl/zardalu.sytes.net/images/2000mppSWDeathStar2.gif The First Death Star: http://mirror.wolffelaar.nl/zardalu.sytes.net/images/2000mppSWDeathStar.gif Quite dramatic hay guys, but quite correct according to the detailed calculations by the guy on that site!

BTW Bill, I just remembered about this lurking on one of my MSN passport sites: Bill's new avatar?

...or even fall out of the sky like this!

Have some cake Elvis for your patience