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SOCL

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  1. When it motivates you to dress up like a Roman soldier and/or Roman gladiator, grow a beard, and learn Latin.
  2. Well, in theory there is an insignia that is red and blue only for the rank of Grand Moff, but I have yet to find it. I do, though, see your point. The insignia Conway has is not that of a grand moff. In fact, it is of a rank lower than Fleet Admiral (due to the added cylinders). Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like a prick there, Scath.
  3. So this is a discussion of which ships are best used as commerce raiders in the game (SWR)?
  4. Okay, let's begin. It seems logical to say the Empire of the OT was formed on clones, it was the fastest way to grow an enormous army that would be used for Galaxy-wide domination. Now, that's not to say that every trooper (whether it by TIE Fighter pilot, stormtrooper, etc) is a clone. I believe that by the time of ANH there are many clones still running around, but the numbers of people who desire to be stormtroopers has increased (think about the propoganda; people probably viewed stromtroopers like Roman soldiers, they wanted to be one because it was cool). We also know that by ANH, cloning had been illegalized; now, that does not mean it didn't happen, but then why all the shock in the final scenes of Dark Force Rising when Luke and the others found out about the clone stromtroopers aboard the Katana? Simple, clones had become a thing of the past. I mean, the EU is riddled with allusions to mad clones and, undoubtedly, people in the galaxy had started to view clones as a bad thing. Palpatine, being the political genius he is, would probably have exploited that image of ma/bad clones to help recruitment efforts of regular peoples. I mean, after all, it's easier to control people if their own kind are the ones doing the controlling versus having outside forces coming in and doing it (i.e. clones). We also know that recuritment efforts for non-clones had long since been happening in SW. For instance, we had Kyp Durron's brother in Champions of the Force who was not a clone. You can't go into the military and expect to become a clone, but you certainly want to be like one (if the idea that clones are looked at badly is accepted). I agree with Imperator2 on the idea of covering people's faces with helmets for "scary" reasons. But I have to go with Jahled on the idea that those with helmets are, or at least at one point were all clones. I believe that just about every unit in SW that has a "faceless helmet" on was probably clone at one time or another, but the evidence lies in the movies and EU that all stormtroopers (and others) are not clones. In ANH itself we have one voice yell "Close the blast doors!" and then a totally different (and deeper) voice yell "Open the blast doors! Open the blast doors!" Then we have the stormtrooper who nearly apprehended Leia and Han in ROTJ say "Freeze!" in a voice unlike those two of ANH. Then he have the scout troopers who try to apprehend Leia in the forest with Wickit...the list goes on and on. Conclusion, the Empire's military was founded on clones. Millions, maybe even billions of clones, but the practice of cloning, for some reasons, disappeared by at least the time of ANH (that's not to say that Clone troopers weren't still in the military; they would be "late models"). Then we have Grand Admiral Thrawn walk onto the scene and discover the cloning facilities in Mount Tantiss on Wayland. Now, this raises the quesiton of whether these facilities were used by the Empire in secret during the OT. Possibly and if so, probably for elite units like the Imperial Royal Guard and the 501st "Emperor's Fist". Regardless, clones had very obviously fallen out of use by the Empire until Thrawn restarted the facilities there (thus we get the surprised reactions of our heroes aboard the Katana in Dark Force Rising). Mount Tantiss is then destroyed, but we know that Thrawn took at least one cloning cylinder to the Nirana and spread clone "sleeper cells" throughout the galaxy. Thus we get some of the action and characters (specifically the Soontir Fel clones) in Specter of the Past and Vision of the Future. We know, though, that between The Last Command and Specter of the Past, cloning was in total disuse (we have the evidence of the training facilities where Kyp Durron's brother was in Champions of the Force, and we have a comment in Darksaber about how those dressed as Royal Guards are not real guardsmen but "merely" stormtroopers wearing the armor, giving us a hint at the Empire's lack of resources, specifically its man power). Beyond that...well, I don't believe clones were mentioned very much if at all in the NJO, but I could be mistaken. By the way, the 501st mentioned in Zahn's Survivor's Quest was probably a unit that called itself for the conotation the 501st had, but was very likely not the original. So I agree with Jahled that the Empire was founded on clones, but then I believe the Empire started recruiting, mixing clone troops with "real" troops.
  5. Wait, what is it?
  6. You're going to make stormtroopers a unit for Rome?
  7. Rrrrrrr! Roarrrr! Groar! I'm a Wookie!
  8. Sounds interesting. Led Zeppelin - Stairway to Heaven
  9. Guns N' Roses - It's So Easy
  10. "Nations wage wars, but it is humans who pay the price." -Homer "Moderators wage wars, but it is the rest of us who sit and laugh." -SOCL
  11. Haha. Any how, the History Channel shoot in Knoxville went well. I got to be a gladiator for the first time and did, according to the other experienced gladiators, better than anyone else they had ever seen as the type of gladiator I was re-enacting (I was re-enacting a gladiator who carries a trident and a net). I walked away with eleven cuts and a few bruises, thus it was fun! I also played a Praetorian Guard, a citizen, and a vigilante (police/fireman) on top of being in charge of outfitting the actors in period accurate equipment and clothing. The show will be airing in the Spring. Next up, Castra Romana this weekend! :D
  12. What is this all about?
  13. Jahled, my friend, you never fail to amuse us! You are on dark waters, my friend.
  14. Sorry, I didn't understand a word of what you just typed. The different charts have to do with different schemes; as far as what they mean, that's anyone's guess.
  15. Velvet Revolver
  16. Other than a tiny problem with sound, I seem to be the only one who doesn't have a million and a hlaf complaints about the game.... Oh yeah, and to destroy Geeks, one must very simply take away his or her computer.
  17. And so, it seems, the Moderator Wars have begun.... The gods help us....
  18. Rank insignia are not only based on the squares, but also the rank cylinders. Fleet Admiral does indeed have the same amount of squares, it merely lacks a rank cylinder...which is strange because less rank cylinders means a higher rank. ...Scath, where did you get the red-blue insignia? This is the page I had been referring to when I mentioned the different schemes. Or...did you end up getting off the files I sent you and, thus, I was wrong?
  19. I'm the fourth person. ...to post in this thread, that is.
  20. The tide hasn't quite changed. You forgot the BEAK/SOCL-factor.
  21. Russell Crowe in STAR WARS? Why didn't I think of it before!!! A few other names would include: Charles, Muhammad, Abu Bakr, Sadartha, Hamilcar, Hasdrubal, Mago, Gisgo, Isabella, etc. I believe that names are VERY important and that simply naming someone a random, useless name is dishonor to your family's name and shame to your child/ren. ...besides, who would want to be named Scathane (or Trejiuvanat, for that matter)? :twisted:
  22. What does that mean? There really isn't a difference between the first (top) and second one, and the third and fourth (bottom) one; those are just different pictures of rank cylinders (in case anyone was confused...and thought Scath had lost it ). EDIT: Hey, cool, Paul got it already! Though the picture of the insignia doesn't seem to be working correctly.
  23. ...? No, not the Greeks, the GEEKS. :twisted: ...and I believe I have found one... :twisted:
  24. The only person I would name my kid after would be Thrawn (especially if he had blue skin). Beyond that, I only wear Star Wars stuff to conventions (none of which I have attended, sadly) and maybe I will (if I can make some) to EPIII. ...now, I have thought about naming my eventual kids Gaius (Julius Caesar), Augustus, Caesar, Hannibal (Barca of Carthage), Alexander (the Great), William (the Conqueror), Marcus Aurelius (my cousin, the one who likes the prequels, is actually named this), Hadrian, Constantine....
  25. Oh goodness. Like Godfather IV: Attack of the Vito Corleone Clones? Well, both the original and the special edition have that scene....

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