1upD's mod

[1upD]

Ok!! Thats good...very good...So FOC crashes, EAW does not.  Does the screen stay black for FOC, does the PC turn off (you know, that odd clunk you get when a HDD just stops) then your BIOS does not show, or does it restart and windows does not come, or none of the above?

The screen goes black, I hear that really scary 'clunk' you mentioned, the BIOS shows, then the loading bar, but the windows will not come. I hit the reboot button and the computer restarts normally with no issues(Except for that annoying 'safe mode screen', where I just say 'Run Normally')

Edit:  Would you please either run a DxDiag or post your PC specs so I can tell if it may be hardware?  FOC has persistent bugs that cause certain failures in odd situations...

I really don't think it's hardware. FoC used to run perfectly.

Edit 2:  Just an odd question, you wouldn't happen to be using a crack, would you?  I don't care if you are or not, I just need to know

WHAT!? I've never used drugs in my life!

 

Oh, a CD-crack! Sorry  : No. I used one once before, and it caused some modding and multiplayer problems so I stopped. I'd rather just put the disk in than go through that.

[Lavarider]

"I really don't think it's hardware. FoC used to run perfectly."

 

When I say hardware, I also mean drivers and stuff.  DxDiag can also check for errors in synchronizing hardware...However, I'm just kinda blowing smoke here...this is all in FOC and the fact that Petroglyph rushed it to make an early release date....

 

Hhmmmm....Do you have the newest drivers for your video?

If you do, or do not know, go here http://www.omegadrivers.net/omega_drivers.php

this is the Omega Drivers site.  the Omega drivers are a driver set make by programmers like me who try to adjust them to be more stable, compatible, etc.

 

Download the newest directx sdk, if you didn't already do that-directx errors are always a problem.. :

 

Hey, question, does the PC reboot immediately, or does the screen go, say, black for a few seconds, then you restart? 

 

"WHAT!? I've never used drugs in my life!"

 

LOL!!!! ;D

[1upD]

"I really don't think it's hardware. FoC used to run perfectly."

 

When I say hardware, I also mean drivers and stuff.  DxDiag can also check for errors in synchronizing hardware...However, I'm just kinda blowing smoke here...this is all in FOC and the fact that Petroglyph rushed it to make an early release date....

 

Hhmmmm....Do you have the newest drivers for your video?

If you do, or do not know, go here http://www.omegadrivers.net/omega_drivers.php

this is the Omega Drivers site.  the Omega drivers are a driver set make by programmers like me who try to adjust them to be more stable, compatible, etc.

 

Download the newest directx sdk, if you didn't already do that-directx errors are always a problem.. :

Hmm...It's my dad's computer, and I know he'd be angry if I messed around too much. I don't want anything unstable. I'm sure I can fix FoC without any updates.

Hey, question, does the PC reboot immediately, or does the screen go, say, black for a few seconds, then you restart? 

Well, both, sorta. It takes a momemt for my pc to start rebooting, so I guess you can say it goes immedietely. But it does go black for a few seconds.

[Lavarider]

Ok, so its your dad's computer...Well, I can guarantee with 100% faith that directx and the genuine updates from your video card manufacturers website will not hurt your computer-I promise you that, and they are very important for proper operation, ESPECIALLY if you happen to have an NVidia card.  Also, like I said before, get me a DxDiag, it really only takes about 20 seconds, then do one more thing.  Go to start, run, regedit, go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, Software, lucasarts, empire at war; Forces of corruption, any folder after that, and take a screenshot of that page so I can see what condition your registry is in.

[1upD]

Ok, so its your dad's computer...Well, I can guarantee with 100% faith that directx and the genuine updates from your video card manufacturers website will not hurt your computer-I promise you that, and they are very important for proper operation, ESPECIALLY if you happen to have an NVidia card.  Also, like I said before, get me a DxDiag, it really only takes about 20 seconds, then do one more thing.  Go to start, run, regedit, go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, Software, lucasarts, empire at war; Forces of corruption, any folder after that, and take a screenshot of that page so I can see what condition your registry is in.

Yeah, we're going to update it, but I don't think that will help at all with FoC. It only takes 20 seconds? I might try that. Yeah, maybe I could take some screens of registry later. Right now I've been working on another project and I've kind of given up hope for FoC. I'll get my enthusiasim back later, though.

EDIT: My Dad fixed FoC. He says he downloaded a user-made patch that fixes the problem. I seriously can't believe it. Neither of us would have thought of that. He used the Petroglyph support forum. ::)I found this link in the recently opened: http://www.petroglyphgames.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5417&st=60

 

So it works. Now then, what do you think of Forces of Corruption:Infection?

Edited June 2, 2008 by 1upD

[Lavarider]

ALLL RIGHT!!! I now have a guaranteed alpha tester!  

Anyway, Infection sounds interesting...I suppose the best way to make it work would be to modify the corruption modifier...I could maybe help you with that when my own mod is done.

[1upD]

ALLL RIGHT!!! I now have a guaranteed alpha tester!  

Anyway, Infection sounds interesting...I suppose the best way to make it work would be to modify the corruption modifier...I could maybe help you with that when my own mod is done.

Who is it?

You read my idea paragraph, right? Corruption modifier? You know, this will have nothing to do with corruption. It's the area effect convert ability mentioned before, or/and probably projectiles set with the same damage type.

 

I'm gonna go look at FoC again. Since the patch hacked the exe and a few .DLLs, the patches which I never got to install will probably corrupt the game and multiplayer is now impossible.  :'( But at least it works.  ;D

[Lavarider]

"You read my idea paragraph, right? Corruption modifier? You know, this will have nothing to do with corruption. It's the area effect convert ability mentioned before, or/and probably projectiles set with the same damage type."

 

Yeah, I get that...I was expanding on the idea, you know, instead of that yellow corruption could, you make a hazy blue one for phazon corruption, right?  Then , you simply make a corruption type called "Phazite" or whatever-it would give you slave bonuses, perhaps a weather modifier (phazon corruption) and enable the construction of phazon corrupted units...

[1upD]

"You read my idea paragraph, right? Corruption modifier? You know, this will have nothing to do with corruption. It's the area effect convert ability mentioned before, or/and probably projectiles set with the same damage type."

 

Yeah, I get that...I was expanding on the idea, you know, instead of that yellow corruption could, you make a hazy blue one for phazon corruption, right?  Then , you simply make a corruption type called "Phazite" or whatever-it would give you slave bonuses, perhaps a weather modifier (phazon corruption) and enable the construction of phazon corrupted units...

Wasn't phazite a metal? Phazon wouldn't have corruption, it would be a separate faction...Unless I made it part of the ZC. Is that what you're suggesting?

 

EDIT: I'm already dreaming about the possibilities with these ideas. I found a reference image for when I reskin the phazon zombies.

http://mdb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/mp3/Mutated.jpg

It looks like fun for a reskinner like me.

Edited June 2, 2008 by 1upD

[Lavarider]

No, not exactly...see, here's how it kinda formed in my mind

 

You make a new race, called "Phazites" or whatever relates to phazon, and give them a home planet called Phaaze.  Now, we make this race Phazon based, which basically means simply giving them phazon healing tanks instead of bacta, and perhaps bonuses when they fight on a phazon corrupted planet.  Now, instead of defilers, they build Leviathan seeds, which you send at an enemy planet to phazon corrupt it.  A planet that is phazon corrupted gets a blue halo around it and has a modifier that does regular damage to all non-phazon based infantry on it.  Also, if the planet is controlled by Phazites, you can train its indigenous population as phazon corrupted "slaves" which fight for Phaaze...I don't have any ideas on corruption removal or anything yet, this is just a framework idea.

 

Edit: "Since the patch hacked the exe and a few .DLLs, the patches which I never got to install"

I just noticed this...you tried to use the game BEFORE you patched it?!?! Why?

Edited June 3, 2008 by Lavarider

[1upD]

No, not exactly...see, here's how it kinda formed in my mind

 

You make a new race, called "Phazites" or whatever relates to phazon, and give them a home planet called Phaaze.  Now, we make this race Phazon based, which basically means simply giving them phazon healing tanks instead of bacta, and perhaps bonuses when they fight on a phazon corrupted planet.  Now, instead of defilers, they build Leviathan seeds, which you send at an enemy planet to phazon corrupt it.  A planet that is phazon corrupted gets a blue halo around it and has a modifier that does regular damage to all non-phazon based infantry on it.  Also, if the planet is controlled by Phazites, you can train its indigenous population as phazon corrupted "slaves" which fight for Phaaze...I don't have any ideas on corruption removal or anything yet, this is just a framework idea.

That was pretty much what I had planned, minus corruption. You see, the ZC will still exist. You're forgeting my new gameplay mechanic. Phazon attacks will corrupt any infantry and turn them into the before mentioned 'Phazon zombies'.

[Lavarider]

Not 'forgetting', 'adding to'.  Just think about it this way.  If phazon based attacks corrupt infantry, logically a takeover of the planet would corrupt the planet.  This corruption would be different than the ZC's.... as a matter of fact, you could make it so a phazon corrupted planet could still be corrupted in another way by the ZC while retaining the Phazon corruption.  Its just a new idea for a Zerg-like race for FOC.

[vadereclipse]

Just saying, you wouldn't be allowed to use the mp2 samus model, just commenting on the post about a page back. And to build leviathans you should require an aurora unit. And would a reskinned nebulon b look like the gfs olympus?

[Lavarider]

Ive actually never played mp3, so I wouldn't know about that...But if I remember what I read about Phaaze right, the Leviathans grew without the Aurora unit, however, I suppose that could be their Command Center type structure.

[vadereclipse]

The aurora unit allowed dark samus to control phaaze to use lethathans. In the cases of aether and tallon phaaze would of done that itself. The aurora unit made phaaze release leviathans.

[1upD]

Not 'forgetting', 'adding to'.  Just think about it this way.  If phazon based attacks corrupt infantry, logically a takeover of the planet would corrupt the planet.  This corruption would be different than the ZC's.... as a matter of fact, you could make it so a phazon corrupted planet could still be corrupted in another way by the ZC while retaining the Phazon corruption.  Its just a new idea for a Zerg-like race for FOC.

....

How? Corruption is a one faction thing. This is going from a sturdy idea to an expirementally revolutionary mod tech thing. I wouldn't attempt to do something like that, no one's done it before.

Just saying, you wouldn't be allowed to use the mp2 samus model, just commenting on the post about a page back. And to build leviathans you should require an aurora unit. And would a reskinned nebulon b look like the gfs olympus

Meh.

I don't think AU-313 should be included, he's two hard to make. Since it would be their only space unit, they should be fairly easy to get. :0 You're right! The GF frigates look just like Nebulon Bs! Unfortuneatly, the GFs won't be included.(Unless as slaves to phazon)

The aurora unit allowed dark samus to control phaaze to use lethathans. In the cases of aether and tallon phaaze would of done that itself. The aurora unit made phaaze release leviathans.

Don't spoil it for him. Seriously, that game is way too epic to simply read about.

[vadereclipse]

Too bad. I really wanted to see a gf vs pirates mod. It would be the ultimate mod. Called something like the phazon war. I mean think about it. Power to weapons is hypermode, and as of corruption, there are shitloads of space units. All you'd need is a modeller who likes metroid. I actually know of one, but he's busy on a mod.

[1upD]

Too bad. I really wanted to see a gf vs pirates mod. It would be the ultimate mod. Called something like the phazon war. I mean think about it. Power to weapons is hypermode, and as of corruption, there are shitloads of space units. All you'd need is a modeller who likes metroid. I actually know of one, but he's busy on a mod.

I'm very very busy and as I said don't have time for a total conversion.

 

Which was the reason for Infection in the first place... I think I'm going to begin work on it right now.

[vadereclipse]

Best of luck. If you want to make an aurora chamber to make a leviathan building structure, then try rescaling a bacta turret.

[Lavarider]

Hey, do what you want...I'm still busy on my mod...I lost my Quadraxis model in the crash, and am still looking fo a replacement.  I can't rip models from MP2 because they are encrypted-and anyway, you arent allowed to use ripped models for this sort of thing...anybody know of a good quaddy model?

[1upD]

Best of luck. If you want to make an aurora chamber to make a leviathan building structure, then try rescaling a bacta turret.

That's a great idea.

 

I have encountered a small problem/huge success. I just discovered that the conversion units are not neccassary for conversion, all they do is replace the sound files.(Or, in my case, make them look like zombies) It does not effect factions. They serve whoever corrupts them. This saves me some work in that area, but for the first version I planned to have Phazon non-playable, but as an 'abusable' weapon race the player could try to unleash on opponents, while risking being attacked himself. That won't work anymore. So I'll have to skip right to the faction...

Hey, do what you want...I'm still busy on my mod...I lost my Quadraxis model in the crash, and am still looking fo a replacement.  I can't rip models from MP2 because they are encrypted...anybody know of a good quaddy model?

You LOST the Quadraxis model!?

:'(

I don't think there is a good replacement.

[vadereclipse]

For being a talentless noob who got so hated on everythingeaw at one point as to be branded the new drksbr i am not half bad at the ideas side of things.

[Lavarider]

I didn't LOSE it, it got annihilated!!!  I found a model online that would be great, and have asked the creator for permission to use it, but he hasn't called me back yet, and its been a week...I may just have to start redoing it on my own....It'll just take a lllooonnnngggg time 'cause I'm, not very good at modeling.

[1upD]

I didn't LOSE it, it got annihilated!!!  I found a model online that would be great, and have asked the creator for permission to use it, but he hasn't called me back yet, and its been a week...I may just have to start redoing it on my own....It'll just take a lllooonnnngggg time 'cause I'm, not very good at modeling.

Oh my. Where is the model?

[Lavarider]

Which model? My old one, or the new one I found?

Well, the old one is in Alpha Centauri by no, but the new one is on deviantART.com, made by a guy named MasterZoda....I wish he would email me back, I really like his model.