Abe Simpson was right: 'The metric system is the tool of the devil' Btw Tsunami, that was a deadlink. But looking at the way it is written I'd say it's from the 'Complete guide to Stardestroyers', right ? The original site is down, but there's a mirror (http://www.darklordsofsith.com/stardestroyers/std.htm), although they omit the complete guide to MonCal ships, which I only have partially I draw most of my info from there, although the SSD-length conflict has entered there, too. Like I already said back then, when I released SSD, ESSD and Sovereign: the length is a compromise between playability and the 'actual' size. The Eclipse is one hell of a behemoth and if you look here (http://home.graffiti.net/d_kelley/scalesd.jpg) you can see, that a MonCal cruiser looks like a fighter in comparison. Elvis: I didn't use any length tools in the 3d modelling programs, merely good eyesight, the reference size of the original models and a feeling of how big it should be. Perfectly scientific