ElvisMiggell

Okay, if you swap 5010 and 5020, you get the second DS in tactical, i cant remember how it appears in the fleet window etc. But when you're in tactical, it looks just like the DS II, don't know whether it fires anyfaster or anything.

Yerah, i'd say that's pretty much it. I'm still waiting for someone to bring out a modeler/texturing combo that lets you build ships using wireframe, and then texture them as if you were painting in MS Paint!!! But i don't think thats going to happen.

Mmmmmmm cookies......

Ooh, is the fighter tutorial available for download yet?

Unfortunately i'm not that someone.

As for emtrey he looks like a gray green 3po unit with a clamshell on top of his head. Where a clamshell would split runs along the top of his head. He has fairly simple photoreceptors, but apart from that i don't know. And that's all from two or three year memory, so it's probably wrong.

Don't quote me numbers, otherwise 'll quote you others from another source that are different. Anyway. I'm going to compromise on this. Well, just defer to a higher authority actually. Igor, you decide. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter, so long as what we end up with is relatively balenced.

Shall we settle on those four then?

Sounds good to me, as long as the MonCal ships are reconisable. I'd also advise that we make the Eclipse, SSD, and Sovereign a bit smaller, just for sensibility in the tactical screen.

Use the force!!!

Okay, well if anybody knows what they are, please could you let me know. Thanks in advance.

Sounds good, but what are HCE, RD, RESB? Sounds like i need to buy some more comics!!!

Flags? How do you mean?

Yeah well maybe we should have more of a difference between the two levels, Gencore I and Gencore II, a Gencore I would be fairly weak, but quite cheap, a Gencore II would be much stronger, but an awful lot more expensive.

You're more likely to be right than me, i don't have access to sources while i'm at work...

Yeah, the shipyards look more like Skyhooks, i always imagined them as this sprawling mass of girders, almost like a nest, with ships in all stages of construction inside the nest. But that's just me....

Um, yeah, Honoghr, that's what i meant! Kapp Dendo's Commando's, or Page's? Slicers for espionage. If the Wraiths went over to Intell instead of Fleet, would Intell have made up more similar units?

Could be, or that could just be the artist that designed them....

Guys, can we just state a size for each ship and then agree to it. Let's face it, there's a lot of differing source material out there, both on the size of SSDs, and on the size of every single Mon Cal ship ever made. So lets define the length in terms of how much bigger they are than an ISD MKI or II (they're both the same length). We need lengths for; Eclipse Sovereign Executor Class SSD Allegiance Class SSD Victory Mc90 Mc80b Mc80a Mc40 Home One Bear in mind that i'm talking about the actual scales in the game, not necessarily what you believe to be true. e.g. The biggest ship should APPEAR to be a maximum of ten times the length of an ISD, in my humble opinion.

Don't you just love the modability of Reb?!?

Well, i guess the numbers don't matter too much, as long as the ships are all balanced relative to each other.

Okay, you win on the size thing, i did some more checking. BUT!!!!!! This leaves us with a problem, if the Mc90 is roiughly the same size as the Mc80... Remember how small the Mc80 is compared to the SSD in the game, aren't we going to have scale problems, as soon as a Sovereign appears on the scene, an Mc80 becomes so small you can barely see it. Thoughts?

What was the Xwing they were upgrading to during the New Rebellion? Sorry, i meant that the Ewing should be the equivalent of the Defender, and the Xwing would be roughly equivalent to the Scimiter. Basically the Rebels preffered heavy fighter, almost fighter-bombers, and the Imps favoured specific role ships.

Yeah, gotta go with the Bwings.

Good good, might help bridge the gaps between some of the 'smaller' ships, and some of the huge ships.