Grand_Admiral_Thrawn Posted August 17, 2004 Posted August 17, 2004 That's true. Barkoa probably just included the well-known jedi from the movies. History is on the move, Captain. Those who cannot keep up with it will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all.
Barkoa Posted August 18, 2004 Author Posted August 18, 2004 i was just trying to see the ones mainly from the movies. I don't know of all of the jedi and the list would be huge. I just wanted to see out of these main ones, whod be most popular! "Be at peace, for the force is my ally and I shall not let anything happen out of my contol."-Barkoa
Guest Scathane Posted August 18, 2004 Posted August 18, 2004 i was just trying to see the ones mainly from the movies. I don't know of all of the jedi and the list would be huge. I just wanted to see out of these main ones, whod be most popular! Fair enough... In that case, it's Luke Skywalker for me.
Jahled Posted August 18, 2004 Posted August 18, 2004 Voted I just have, yeess! And your vote was Yoda, I presume... Emm...this assumption...emmm...you assume you do! Assume the Force does not assume... IT IS!!! http://www.jahled.co.uk/smallmonkeywars.gif
Mad78 Posted August 18, 2004 Posted August 18, 2004 i was just trying to see the ones mainly from the movies. I don't know of all of the jedi and the list would be huge. I just wanted to see out of these main ones, whod be most popular! Fair enough... In that case, it's Luke Skywalker for me.I voted for Yoda but after rethinking the queston... Obi-Wan for me. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Palpycard.gifhttp://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Spamkinguserbarcopy.jpgCLICK HERE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!Click here is you like Trance
Grand_Admiral_Thrawn Posted August 18, 2004 Posted August 18, 2004 You can't take your bote back! If I can't do it in politics, you can't do it here... unless you vote for Luke that is History is on the move, Captain. Those who cannot keep up with it will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all.
Guest Admiral_Antilles Posted August 18, 2004 Posted August 18, 2004 I must say Obi-Wan and Yoda are both bif favorites of mine, but I must say the wise master Yoda is my favorite. Why you ask? He has always given me (and probably most SW fans) the real sense of mystery about the Force. The prequels partly ruiened this, but not completely. When he lifted Luke's drowned X-wing it astonished me. When he spoke is was awe-inspiring. Hands down I give this to Yoda. But, Obi-Wan is a sure second.
Grand_Admiral_Thrawn Posted August 18, 2004 Posted August 18, 2004 I didn't mind Obi-Wan in the first two movies, but he really didn't do much in the original series. He was sort of a wimp in the battle with Vader. History is on the move, Captain. Those who cannot keep up with it will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all.
Trejiuvanat Posted August 18, 2004 Posted August 18, 2004 I like the old Ben, because he is the old General believed to be a crazy man. But under all that eccentric appearance there's a man who saw much, and suffered much. Sure Vader/Anakin went from good guy, to lava-disposed baddie, but Ben was the one person who has the burden on his shoulder, he was Vader's master, and he failed him, to such an extent that he had to battle him and toss him into Lava. In ROTJ when he admits that his pride was the cause for all this. It takes courage to say that, even if you are a ghost. As Anakin said it in Episode II. "He is as strong as Master Windu and as wise as Master Yoda."And there's of course that he is taller than Yoda and doesn't look like a green blurp on the screen when he fights. http://www.swrebellion.com/~jahled/Trej/banner.gif
Grand_Admiral_Thrawn Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 Well, when he was younger he looked better when he fought, but when he's in his 60s, well, I think a stone statue has more mobility. History is on the move, Captain. Those who cannot keep up with it will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all.
Phytho Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 Sure he has less mobility but I think he intended to die there so that he could guide Luke through the rest of his journey towards becoming a Jedi.
Grand_Admiral_Thrawn Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 That is also something I didn't really understand. if he were there in the flesh, he could have tought Luke the ways of the Force and then sent hi to Yoda for some extra practice. His death was really quite senseless. History is on the move, Captain. Those who cannot keep up with it will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all.
Mad78 Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 I think he knew luke wouldn't leave without him. That is why he decided to die and also because he could always be at his side to instruct him. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Palpycard.gifhttp://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Spamkinguserbarcopy.jpgCLICK HERE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!Click here is you like Trance
Grand_Admiral_Thrawn Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 I guess Luke wouldn't have left without him, but I've every confidence that Ben could have been Vader's equal with a lightsaber. Vader was strong in the force, but that doesn't automatically make you a good swordsman. It's also possible that Ben knew his death would push Luke farther along in his desire to learn the ways of the force. History is on the move, Captain. Those who cannot keep up with it will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all.
Guest Scathane Posted August 20, 2004 Posted August 20, 2004 Isn' it possible that Old Ben knew he wouldn't defeat Vader in that fight?
Mad78 Posted August 20, 2004 Posted August 20, 2004 Maybe Ben had seen through the force that if he was to die so that luke could bring balace to the force. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Palpycard.gifhttp://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Spamkinguserbarcopy.jpgCLICK HERE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!Click here is you like Trance
Guest Scathane Posted August 20, 2004 Posted August 20, 2004 Maybe Ben had seen through the force that if he was to die so that luke could bring balace to the force. We do not for sure whether it's Luke who brings balance to the force, ord do we?
Grand_Admiral_Thrawn Posted August 20, 2004 Posted August 20, 2004 Vader brought balance to the Force. There were too many light-side Jedi, and thus the "Force Scale" was tipped too much to the light. He killed them all, leabing only Ben and Yoda against Palpatine and Vader. Balance. History is on the move, Captain. Those who cannot keep up with it will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all.
Guest Scathane Posted August 20, 2004 Posted August 20, 2004 Vader brought balance to the Force. There were too many light-side Jedi, and thus the "Force Scale" was tipped too much to the light. He killed them all, leabing only Ben and Yoda against Palpatine and Vader. Balance. I've heard that theory before but none of it is proven or confirmed, is it?
Grand_Admiral_Thrawn Posted August 20, 2004 Posted August 20, 2004 I don't think so. Looking back on what was discussed in the Jedi council in Episode I, I't looks like the Jedi though balance would favour them. Maybe they were wrong? History is on the move, Captain. Those who cannot keep up with it will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all.
Mad78 Posted August 20, 2004 Posted August 20, 2004 That's a good question. What happens when balance is bought to the force. Champagne? http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Palpycard.gifhttp://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Spamkinguserbarcopy.jpgCLICK HERE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!Click here is you like Trance
dmfitz29 Posted August 20, 2004 Posted August 20, 2004 Well, they were also blinded by the dark side, as Yoda points out. I think Balance was made, for about 20 minutes. When Luke was officially turned into a Jedi Knight, werent the two sides equal? Then as soon as Vader turned and the Emperor was killed, they were right back to being uneven, but for a while.
Guest Scathane Posted August 20, 2004 Posted August 20, 2004 I even wonder whether balance in the force means an even divide between light and dark... I don't think the light side Jedi meant it that way...
Mad78 Posted August 20, 2004 Posted August 20, 2004 Dark and light side will always fight. The balance must be when their is anought light to contain the dark and avoid chaos but not anought to destroy the dark side. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Palpycard.gifhttp://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Spamkinguserbarcopy.jpgCLICK HERE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!Click here is you like Trance
Guest Scathane Posted August 22, 2004 Posted August 22, 2004 Dark and light side will always fight. The balance must be when their is anought light to contain the dark and avoid chaos but not anought to destroy the dark side. Well.., duhh! But as I said, I donb't believe the light side Jedi meant it that way...
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