Kelathin

you need to have a modpath set up.

In DE... 3 of these are in DE... If swfan sent them already I can give them to you guys for private use...

The community wasn't ready for warlords. That's just my opinion.

For public notice, since it wasn't posted here. AGD V4 has been canceled. Sonic0 left the community till further notice.

DE and IA II loves you sfwan Still the damage is done.

Salute efforts man, always glad to answer your questions.

Working for DE may of caused that... actually I think working on DE and IA II fully commited as he is would limit his time on eaw enhanced.

hehe, swfan improved after he stopped Eaw Enhanced. Well he works on IA II with swgbex, anyone can learn a few tricks from the master

check lod setting? Orginally when Warlords were first posted he had 14 rules. Well honestly only 13, 14th was someone had to convert the ewok on a hanglider and give it a superlaser. Mostly rules on credits were on posts and when pff crashed most of the stuff was lost.

The person who did that didn't read swgbex's tutorial very well then There are tutorials dealing with that. It should be up to the conversion maker to make sure he does it right. Sadly it doesn't matter with most people.

eville jedi would probably tell swgbex to do that

interesting viewpoint. My thoughts were like 4 to 1 model ratio. Or Every mod that uses above 20 units requires special permission, explaining how else they will make their mod different from other mods using Warlords to avoid over usage. The thing is people don't care about quality, look at AGD. No bump maps, light maps, no deathclones. People care about the quanity and that's the whole problem with Warlords. Steiner's advance units mod, those mods require massive amounts of units, not the quality. Want Quality, go to LoW, bailknight or IA II. I don't find a problem with AGD because of its shoddiness or anything else. It was the mass number of warlords. If they didn't have any warlords, where would the mod be? "Perhaps there should be an acceptable user policy on how they can be used in mods ? all I can think right now for that part at least about not getting the credit for your work. About mass conversions - which could be poor quality and be even worse being released like that to people - perhaps they should be vetted, tested and analysed before being made available to people." Who's going to test it? The team or person by his or her self? A group of people appointed by Eville Jedi? Eville Jedi Himself? Mass conversions are made, any bugs are code faults, not models. Is it his duty to bug test every mod going to use a Warlords? AGD tested it's stuff, but bugs do slip through. they had like 8 or 9 people too

Raziel started this trek war models and steiner's guys were converting star trek models. When he posted pics, Bryant and others went rip shit, on the mod, because Raziel wouldn't put Done by so and so because it wasn't steiner mod and alot of people went ripshit over that. The fact is people rig a Warlords and don't give enough credit. "The conversions of the Models into 'ALO' format are the property of the mod team or 'Author' of the Converted file." That's so ****ful and disrespectful to Eville Jedi. Where the hell would those conversions be without him? If someone were to piss the guy off, he retains all rights to shut source models off from them. They could convert, but they wouldn't be able to publicly release them without his permission. They should have no right to refuse anyone a conversion. Eville Jedi deserves more notice for this stuff. It should be clearly stated. Even if I'm the only who does so, it's less on my own conscious. Yes Mikan, you're right about what I'm trying to say. The people who rig it to .Alo Deserve squat. It takes hours to rig verses multiple hours for skinning, modeling and uving. How come the .alo deserves so much credit? Sure it puts it in the game, but if Eville Jedi never released, where would those models be anyhow? Steiner in my opinion is a high quality AGD. Maybe some will agree, others won't. PhatmanNIk brings up an interesting point

It would take quiet some effort, but perhaps you can go to teams and ask if there is anything they want especially designed. Like give the major mods all 2 high quality space units, not availible to other teams or in the standard conversion pack. Or better yet ground units, that way those warlord conversions mods don't have special units and it allows some uniqueness to mods that normally can't add ground units. Mikan's right though, the damage is already done. People like Steiner's won't stop using Warlords. I admit my own mod uses them as placeholders because I don't want to be a Senior in College 4 years from now working on the models for first release. Importance though isn't in the models, it's in the soul and code. By the time DE comes out most of the models from warlords are going to be done, but that justs means, I and my team need to get more creative and think of newer way of making strategy with what we got.

who does your icons, they look pretty good

He is an extremely nice guy. I have nothing against him for sure 1.) He doesn't get enough credit. People say oh, Keepers models, or AGD's models. uh... no they aren't. They're Eville Jedi's models, skins, uvs. 2.) The most popular mods in eawfiles(major download site for many modders) a.) AGD v3 b.) Eaw enhanced c.) Conflict in Space d.) bailknight e.) Steiners f.) german add on unit one Do you notice how most of them uses Warlords? It's not very fair to those who cannot convert. It's extremely unfair to any other mod who cannot locate a rigger? It limits modders who can only do xmls or reskins. I may be the biggest opponent against Warlords... I start many arguements against Warlords. I truly have nothing against the fine models or their creator, it's against the people who constantly beg for more free releases. Those same people are the ones that make the community as sick as it is. People want units, they don't care about the quality or who did them, they just want new units. That's why swfan ended Eaw enhanced. 3.) With AGD it release so many units, it scares other sources of modders as it is. We don't get many CnC fans or jka or another other source of modders because they have a hard time to compete against other mods with the vast number of shitty conversions of agd v3 4.) Ever since AGD V3 came out, there have been an extreme decline in mods all together. I admit DE uses Warlords as Place holder and crutch due to the sheer number of units required to fully Dark Empire time after first major release the models will be replaced with our own but due to time constraints they'll have to do for now. Anyhow,With all the mods coming out with vast number of Warlords it seems that people have a hard time competing with that and no alternate, or unique mods are coming out. They are all the same really. Kalo Shin refered to it as "Whored" models, another person calls it a Clone mods, mods that are virtually the same. There are very few unique mods. 5.) The lack of modders is apparent in the community. Many scared off because unable to compete with Warlord clone mods. Many major mods faced shortages IA II for a while AOSW nearly crashed LoW no skinners what so ever. 6.) One of the conditions should be that those who publicly release a mod with Warlords should be limited to 4:1 or 2:1 ratio where for every two or four Warlord they release, they must do a model of their own. Or limit it in a way that they must get approval from Eville Jedi in case of 20+ models, that way it isn't the number of units that makes the mod unique, it'll have to be from another source We have had a similar thread at filefront. That you may be interested in reading Eville Jedi http://forums.filefront.com/showthread.php?t=290533

It's doable.

I dunno, I just told you what he's doing now

any screenshots?

At the moment, I arranged Bailknight to do an animation tutorial with the LoW At-pt

good job. Don't add warlords. Just good old fashion xml strength.

Well we have that mentality because only you and a few others want to share public models and kill the community. You whore models around like no tomorrow while the community dies as well as the big mods. The only one that could do his request is Wildcat who is on a modding break while he tries to win a girl's affections. So he's on a waiting list behind other modders, mod teams, and AoSW. People such as myself encourage the public sharing of knowledge to help new modders become more orginal. We discourage free public models because we've seen it kill the community. Almost all warlord mods are dead now. AGD ending soon, EaW enhanced is over, Conflict in Space caught porting, cannot be posted, Massive Warlord Conversion is over. People learned the truth of Warlords. Truth behind open public units. Those free public units never get used by mods. Only horded away by people like JC.

If you're not looking for a new model I can modify the Dark Empire SPG code to this very easily. when I get back home for you. I can do zip format.

If enough people express interest on the forums, I don't see why not. You could pick favorite units we've done so far too We're very open to members, give advice. Look at my team. Mandaloe and Hicks both work on DE and have their on mods in the works. My goals for DE is to have a friendly enviroment where modders can come talk about what they would like to see in our mod and then see their thoughts come into effect.

It's good to get feedback from fans, it allows us to make a better mod. Then again, I can't reveal stuff off my home forums. I rather blow you away in private.