Jahled

Cheated again. We won the game in the final minute, despite essentially playing worse than Vasco De Gama's lads. Such is life. The English are use to crap Europeans dishing the dirt on us. Maybe that's why we'll always choice the ocean...

Thank you Trej. All together now: Engerland...Enggerrllaandd...etc

Multi-task my dear Trej...multi-task!

Things are much quicker now. I can't keep up with myself.

Things are much quicker now. I can't keep up with myself.

'That went well.' -Grand Moff Tarkin Battle of Yavin

Emmm..ok Mask. I'll download this thing when I get home and log on 20:30 Green Sandwich Mean time, right in the middle of the footie tonight. Mutter and gibber, mummble and squawk we shall!

I think you might have missed my rather grand point my friend; when Germany opened up the Easten Front they were doomed. Likewise, the Japanese; despite defeating the Russians in 1904, or when ever it was; shot themselves squarely in the heart when they attacked the United States. They were already engaged with the British Empire's interests in asia, as with the free-European soldiers fighting along side the British. Bear something in mind which is extremely important. The Japanese as a nation only realistically opened-up to the outside world in about 1850. Whilst this makes their defeat of the Russians at the turn of the twentieth century all the more remarkable, it casts an illusion on a very realistic fact. Military-tradition is perhaps the greatest general of all, and they simply didn't have the experiance with the modern era to florish in the long term as a great military power. Sure Japan built the largest Battleships of the Second World War, but their fighting prowess was critically undermined by rather obvious reasons more established military nations (such as the USA and the UK) practised from experiance. This is an example: The Japanese didn't rotate their pilots; in other words they simply left their pilots at the front on active duty. Whilst your boys in the States did exactly the opposite, and so had experianced pilots to train up new-recruits; the Japanese military machine didn't. Such was it's folly. All this 'fighting to the death,' crap worked against them as well. There were very few experianced officers who survived defeats to offer practical information in debriefings. Japan jumped in at the deep end and got soundly destroyed by the American military machine once it got going. It must also be added that the quality of commanding Generals on the American side simply eclipsed their Japanese counterparts; something also learnt from military tradition. If Japan had concentrated their efforts on Russia... well, like the Germans they would eventially been logistically doomed. Combined with Germany I don't think would have made all that differance. The example I gave above concerning Zhukov proved one thing; when all was told, the Soviets had a better General than the main man opposing him. Inferior equipment, troops perhaps, airpower, were all overcome and defeated. The Chinese btw weren't exactly a push over, in order for Japan to engage the Russians on their mainland, they would have to constantly be fighting the Chinese who arn't perhaps credited enough by history for their roll in the defeat of the Japanese.

Khalkin Gol Crushing Soviet victory August 1939 over the Japanese Kwangtung Army on the border of Manchuria and Outer Mongolia, about 645 km/400 miles northwest of Harbin; the most disastrous defea eversuffered by the Japanese Army, it is largely unknown in the West as attention was focused on Poland at the time. The border between Mongolia and China generally follows the Khalkin river, but at this point cuts across a bend in the river, on the Manchurian side, for about 64 km/40 mi. In May 1939 the Japanese Kwangtung Army were probing the Mongolian border to find out just how serious the USSR was about the Pact of Muteual Assistance it had recently signed with Outer Mongolia. The japanese therefore pushed beyond the border line to occupy the salient and relocate the border on the river. A combined force of cavalry and infantry crossed the line 11 May; the Mongolian border guards called for help and a squadron of Mongolian cavalry drove the invaders back. Three days later the Japanese re-appeared in greater strength, supported by aircraft and occupied the disputed area. A Soviet infantry unit some miles behind came up to the river, and over the next month each side fed more troops into the area and the line of contact moved to and fro over the disputed ground. By early July, the Japanese had 40,000 troops, 135 tanks, and 235 aircraft engaged. The Soviets now appointed General (later Marshal) Georgi Zhukov to settle the matter, giving him 12,500 troops, 135 tanks, and 225 aircraft. He confined his efforts to merely repulsing the Japanese whenever they moved, but this merely spurred them to greater effort and they increased their forces to 80,000 troops, with tanks, armoured cars, and artillery, and 450 aircraft. Zhukov had 35 infantry divisions, 20 cavalry squadrons, 500 guns, 500 tanks, and 600 aircraft in the area by August 1939. On 20 August he launched an encircling attack, opening with an intense air strike followed by a two-hour artillery bombardment. By 31 August the entire Japanese 6th Field Army was surrounded and virtually destroyed, over 50,000 being killed or captured. Marshel Georgi Konstantinovinch Zhukov Zhukov joined the Bolsheviks and the Red Army 1918 and led a cavalry regiment in the Civil War 1918-20. His army defeated the Japanese forces in Mongolia at Khalkin-Gol 1939; shortly afterward he demonstrated his strategic abilities in the High Command War Games and was made Chief of Staff. Initially overwelmed by the German attack in 1941 he defended Moscow 1941, counterattacked at Stalingrad 1942, organized the relief of Lenningrad 1943. He led Soviet forces in the battle in the Kursk salient, planned and executed Operation Bagration which resulted in the near-destruction of the German Army Group Centre 1944, and finally led his army to Berlin. He headed the Allied delegation that received the German surrender 1945, and subsequently commanded the Soviet occupation forces in Germany 1945, and subsequently commanded the Soviet occupation forces in Germany. After the war, he served as Soviet minister of defence 1955-57. He died in 1974. Ian V Hogg The Hutchinson Dictionary of Battles Japan roused a sleeping giant when it attacked the USA, as the Germans did attacking the Soviet Union.

Japan DID attack the Soviet Union in 1939, about the same time as the Nazi's were invading Poland. There armies were soundly beaten by the Russians, in fact they suffered the heaviest losses ever suffered by the Japanese. When I get home i'll be able to provide further details.

It's a stupid question when put to you my friend...

WOO! WOO YEY! For what can start as a right bummer, can quickly turn into the unexpected... Woo Yey Hoopla!!

Yo Double-AA!! You've no doubt being chilling.... Wait...that's no orange...

Emmm... well the site seems just that bit quicker now! I think...

I agree... and it would be cool if one of the 'new' nations from our European bothers in the East nailed the title; not that they need any sympathy support, as that game demonstrated, they're sort of producing the goods themselves without charity... It's also cool to see loads of their supporters free to support their teams abroad now the communist vermin have been eradicated from mainland Europe.

Well now! I just watched Holland vs Czech Republic and thought it was one of the best footie matches i've seen in years... simply magical!

Bossk without a doubt! The trick is to ask him to fetch a beer from the fridge whilst under captivity.... He'll no doubt snarl and growl in evil 'I have you so it doesn't really matter that much,' sniggering, and obviously be a sucker to the ruse.... As his reptilian-alien butt turns his back to you sniggering fiendishly, you launch a devastating 'i'm tied-up, but not that much,' attack with the free-feet he forgot to subdue....YELL WOO!!! and slam the door on his cold-blooded alien.. WOO! ..and you have a new leather throng for your girl...

Homming in I think I might be; I must know the tune, I think it came off this top recording... Anyone here advanced enough in internet music search use to poke me in the right direction of hearing glipses of this CD?

Which was much more interesting than the Denmark vs Bulgaria game that prevoked primordial urges to leap from a tall building in frustration at such a boring game of footie... ZOUCH! Cool Euro so far I reckon...

Jahled the Ninja...

Yes they have... FACT. Oops... I didn't phrase it like this: [drunken loutish thug mode/] Err...sorry...no comprehende...the English have never run from any Argentinian wannabes... FACT. [/drunken loutish thug mode] EDIT: Anyway I discovered some footage of French wizardry.... Click here

...more and more confussed...

And France drew with Croatia 2-2... Let's hope Italy does something tomorrow... As for the Argentinians, well they usually start to smash things even if they aren't drunk, that's probably why the hooligans ran away from them in 98... Err...sorry...no comprehende.... the English have never run from any Argentinian wannabes... FACT.

They are a bunch of clowns and wannabe-thugs without the Dutch-Zanshin to pull it off. Sorry Trej, but our South American friends are light weight in the 'behaving like a brainless-thug,' side of things. Visit any British town centre after closing time and you'll see the same sad bastards who can't handle being drunk exposing how pathetic they are. Export that on mass and no one comes close to smashing a place/people up and shamming dudes like Elvis and me as fellow country men. A small minority. Anyway; FOOTBALL ROCKS!

I still grin like a teenager. I'm with SS_Officer on this one. Think of fine wine.