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After finally cluing in to a few problems to be had with the old setup I've re-organised the ships again. Any and all important ship types for the NR have been moved into Empire ship slots. Those non-Vong ships remaining in the Alliance build list will be available to both sides via the Peace Brigade. I haven't decided yet weather to leave the Dauntless in or not. Ships Alliance DREAD ---> * B/CRS ---> ( Yuuzhan Vong Cruiser Analog ) M/TRANS ---> ( Yuuzhan Vong Corvette Analog ) Bulk Transport ---> Modified Transport A/ESC ---> ( Yuuzhan Vong Carrier Analog ) CRV ---> ( Yuuzhan Vong Frigate Analog ) GUN ---> ( Yuuzhan Vong Slayers Craft ) Neb-FRG ---> ( Yuuzhan Vong Light Cruiser Analog ) MC-80 ---> Republic Class SD CC-7700 ---> CEC Gunship Liberator ---> CEC Corvette Assault Frigate ---> KDY Frigate cc-9600 ---> Hapan Nova class cruiser Dauntless ---> * Bulwark ---> ( Yuuzhan Vong Heavy Cruiser Analog ) Imp DREAD ---> ( Mon Mothma ? type Destroyer ) Assault trans ---> MC-80b Galleon ---> ISDII Star Galleon ---> Hapan Battle Dragon Imp ESC ---> Bothan Assault Carrier Carrack Cruiser ---> ISD L/FRG ---> * VSD ---> MC-90 ISD ---> SSD INT ---> * VSDII ---> * Strike Cruiser ---> (Golan Platform) ISDII ---> MC-40 Light Calmari Cruiser SSD ---> Carrack Cruiser Death Star ---> ? Worldship ? ( ?Centerpoint? ) (EDIT: I might switch the SSD into the ISD ship slot. Still deciding. ) All of the cards I've downloaded (yes I'm keeping a list of those too) so far seem to have severly messed up stats so I'm being forced to re-save them as new cards. Needless to say I'm very quickily ending up in over my head. I was wondering if anyone knew a way to select which sectors/planets could start off under a certain sides control. If there was any way to do that, I would be extatic. EDIT 2: Moved some more ships arround.

If you're going to persue the second option you should set up a chat roor or something on a site seprate from swrebellion.com. Make sure that the only way people find out the address to the chat is if you e-mail it to them. You can progressivly expand the group involed only allowing in those you know won't betray you to LucasArts. Then you can slowly branch out creating cells of Rebel programmers. It's a Rebellion against the Lucas Empire! http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2004/20040825l.jpg

That's why there are these great check boxes for either Empire [ ] or Alliance [ ] Many of the weaker ships on both sides are being replaced with Vong ships. Things like the Medium Transport, Star Galleon, the original VSD. Several of the old Alliance ships are going to be replaced and switched over to the Empire. Certain troop types and Characters are going to be left the same only swithched over the the NR side. This is to decrease the number of cards to be replaced. I really don't know if that's the best way to do it or not but no has yet offered any alternates.

Anyone heard the "Furby Prank Call" before? http://www.prestigioushomesflatfeeservices.net/furby.htm

Well I'm finally going to lay down all of my plans for a NJO Mod. I had the idea months ago and was supprised that no one had started a bandwagon yet. I guess with Episode III just out the Clone Wars became a priority. My plan so far is to have the New Republic take the place of the Empire so as to start on Coruscant. This also lets the Vong start out on the Rim where they belong. I've worked out which ships will replace what for the most part. There are a few I still need to make certain of. Any Unit with a * next to it is essentially left alone except mabye changing sides. Question marks indicate I haven't decided what to do with this ship / slot yet. Ships Alliance DREAD ---> * Bulk Cruiser ---> Bothan Assault Carrier M/TRANS ---> ( Yuuzhan Vong Corvette Analog ) Bulk Transport ---> ? A/ESC ---> Endurance Escort Carrier CRV ---> ? GUN ---> * Neb-FRG ---> * MC-80 ---> MC-80b (Refurbished) CC-7700 ---> MC-90 Liberator ---> Hapan Battle Dragon Assault Frigate ---> Republic class SD cc-9600 ---> Light Calmari Cruiser Dauntless ---> * Bulwark ---> ? Possible Worldship Imp DREAD ---> ( Mon Mothma ? type Star Destroyer ) Assault trans ---> ( Yuuzhan Vong Slayers Craft ) Galleon ---> ( Yuuzhan Vong Frigate Analog ) Star Galleon ---> ( Yuuzhan Vong Cruiser Analog ) Imp ESC ---> ( Yuuzhan Vong Carrier Analog ) Carrack Cruiser ---> * L/FRG ---> * VSD ---> ( Yuuzhan Vong Light Cruiser Analog ) ISD ---> * INT ---> * VSDII ---> * Strike Cruiser ---> (Golan Platform) ISDII ---> * SSD ---> * Death Star ---> ?? Worldship ? There could be room for the Hapan Nova or the Vong Heavy Cruiser. I could even upgrade the Bulk Transport as a Smugglers Alliance ship. Starfighters I'll be switching the Alliance fighters over to the Empire and vice-versa so that the X-wing picture can stay the same. It's about the only thing that doesn't change much Y-wing ---> E-wing X-wing ---> XJ3 X-wing A-wing ---> NR Tie Interceptor (Shielded) B-wing ---> Chiss Clawcraft Tie Fighter ---> Coral Skipper Bomber ---> Grutchin (Disables ships) Interceptor ---> Blast Boat analog Defender ---> Slayer's Skipper Infantry Most of the Imperial Regiments were replaced by Vong equivilants except for the Storm Troopers. Alliance Fleet Reg. ---> NR Trooper Regiment Alliance Trooper Reg. ---> Vong Slave troops Sullustan Reg. ---> * Mon Cal Reg. ---> * Wookie Reg. ---> YVH Wardroid Regiment Imp Fleet Reg. ---> Vong Warriors Imp Trooper Reg. ---> Vong Reptoid troops(Chazerah) Storm Trooper Reg. ---> Alliance Storm Trooper WarDroid Reg. ---> Rakamat (Range) Dark Trooper Reg. ---> Vong Slayers (Not so) Special forces Vong Geurillas ---> ? Bothan Spies ---> Peace Brigade Spies Y-wing Recon ---> Asteroid spy ship Infiltrators ---> Ogglith Masquer Sabatours NR Imp Commandos ---> Page's Commandos Espionage Droid ---> Ryn Network Probe Droid ---> Yuzhandroid Norgi ---> Jedi Strike Team+Norgi Facilities Construction Yard ---> Vong Shaper Damutek Barracks ---> Vong Warrior Damutek ShipYard ---> Vong Ship Womb (All advanced structures belong to New Republic now but are slowed down slightly. Vong structures have production speed increased so that both sides are equal.) Defenses LRN ---> ? LRN II ---> * Gen Core ---> Vong Dovin Basal Defense screen Gen Core II ---> * Ion Cannon ---> * DS Shield ---> ?Vong? Worldship gains protection from Planetery defenses? Characters This is where Istart to have trouble, the Main characters. With the minor ones their alleigance can just be switched back and forth by clicking Empire or Alliance in RebEd. New Cards are going to need to be installed for this to work properly if at all. There's also the problem with Han being sent to Jaba's palace. Mon Mothma ---> Shimmra Leia ---> Luke ---> Onimi (R&D - All ) Han ---> ? Nom Anor ? Palpatine ---> Leia Vader ---> Luke Minor Characters The minor Characters will be easy to do, just numerous. Ackbar --->* (Admiral) Wedge --->*[old guy upgrade] Wedge (Admiral, General, Commander) Lando --->*[old guy upgrade] Chewbacca --->?Han Jan Dodonna --->Traest Kre'fey (Admiral, General, Commander) Crix Madine ---> Tenel Ka (Admiral) Carlist Rieekan ---> Farlander (Admiral, General) Afyon ---> Booster Terrik (Admiral) Drayson ---> Corran Horn (Commander) Borsk Fey'lya --->*[old guy upgrade] Tura Raftican ---> Iella Bren Derlin ---> Kyp Durron (Commander) Garm Bel Iblis --->*[old guy upgrade] Talon Karrde --->* Narra ---> Tycho (General, Commander) Huoba Neva ---> Saba Sebatyne (Commander) Page --->*[old guy upgrade] (R&D - Troop training) Syub Snunb ---> Sien Sovv (Admiral, General) Adar Talon ---> Cilghal (R&D - All ) Sarin Virgillo ---> Jania Solo (Commander) Vanden Willard ---> Cal Omas (Diplomacy) Rogert Jiriss ---> Mara Jade (Ass Kicking) Kaiya Andrimetrum --->Danni Quee (R&D - All ) Mazer Rackus ---> Droma (Intel) Orrimaarko ---> Jag Fel (Commander) Ma'w'shiye ---> Lowbacca (Commander) Jerjerrod ---> Jakan (V)[Priest] (Diplomacy) Ozzel ---> Nas Choka (V) (Admiral, General, Commander) Piett ---> Tasavong Lah (V) (Admiral, General, Commander) Veers ---> Denua Ku (V)(R&D - Troop training) Brandei ---> Komm Karsh (V) (Admiral) Covell ---> Mezhan Kwaad (V)(R&D - Troop Training) Dorja ---> Yoog Skell (V) Bin Essada ---> Harrar (V)[Priest] (Diplomacy) Niles Ferrier ---> Elan (V) [Priestess] Grammel Griff Klev ---> ?Vong Shaper?(V) (R&D - Ship Research) Needa ---> Shedao Shai (V) (Admiral, General, Commander) Bane Nothos ---> Deign Lian Orlok ---> Qelah Kwaad (V)(R&D - Facilities) Pellaeon --->*[Grand Admiral upgrade] (Admiral, General, Commander)+Diplomacy Screed ---> Anakin Solo (General, Commander) Thrawn ---> Czulkang Lah (V)(Admiral, General, Commander) Zuggs ---> Vua Rapuung (V) (General) Daala ---> Viqi Shesh Pter Thanas ---> Jacen Solo (Admiral) Bevel Lemelisk ---> Nen Yim (V)(R&D - All ) Shenir Rix ---> Vergere Noval Garaint ---> Boba Fett Garindan ---> Yomin Carr (V) Menndo ---> Pwoe Labnsat Villar ---> Kap Dendo (R&D - Troop training) Help of any kind is appreciated, just post here before you start working away on something so that others know and don't try and do the same thing. Relavent existing topics. Cards http://www.swrebellion.com/forums/postt2814.html Ships http://www.swrebellion.com/forums/postx2798-0-0.html PS: I Won't be able to start work on any cards of my own for a few weeks as I have RL things to sort out.

I had an idea. Do you still have the flatter version of the cruiser? Cause if you do it can just be re-used as the Vong Carrier Analog. I'm sorry I don't know much about modeling so I have no idea about the centering issue. I know I had problems the first few times I imported the Dominator but it went away.

The Ships like the Mon Mothma and Elagos A'kla never actually have their class identified. For the most part they look like a slightly upgraded verion of an Imperator class Star Destroyer letting them blend in with the many other ships of that class used by the New Republic. Their armourment is roughly on par with the ISDII but with better gunnery accuracy being equipped with the newer Turbolasers specifically designed to combat YuuzhanVong. ( Balmorran Pulse Turbolasers? Not certain. ) They also retain the original carrying capacity of 6 Starfighter squadrons but less troops. Shields are a bit better than those on the ISDII but not by alot. The gravity well projectors are designed to be concealed within the hull and can severly hamper the movement of Yuuzhan Vong ships. I reccomend giving the ship longer ranged Tractor beams to accuratly represent this when playing against Vong.

Well since there is almost 1 Yuuzan Vong ship completed I though it might be time to request some Cards for an eventual NJO Mod. As time permits I'll be making a few of the cards myself (the easy ones) like Luke, Mara and Shaper Nen Yim. I'm going to be taking most of the card images from the International NJO book covers. (The North American covers suck by comparison.) That means theres a whole slew of cards that are still needed, mostly secondary people. -Many of the Yuuzhan Vong Characters -Smugglers Alliance ( Booster Terrik, Shadda Dukul) -Jedi ( Solo Kids, Kyp, etc.) -Traitors (A couple of Peace Brigade, and Senator Pwoe) -Alliance Generals (lots) I'll end up going a good deal of the cards myself, and I'll have to sort through which characters to keep because there are so many. Or you guys can argue about what characters there should be. EDIT! : I wne and made about a half dozen character cards and ship cards because I had just fond some great NJO pictures... Only I hadn't read the "How to make a Card tutorial" first. Work down the drain. Even if they did look nice.

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I was wondering, do we even have an online petition set up? That would be a step in the right direction. You could either sign online, or have a printable version with the address to send it to with snail mail. Perhaps even include a 'Han Solo Shoots First' printable petition as well? http://www.originaltrilogy.com/index2.cfm http://www.hanshootsfirst.org http://www.hanshootsfirst.org/banner/han_shoots_first_org_banner_468_60_1_0.gif I know, a little off topic.

They have a rough symetry for the most part, and it's kind of like the Mon Cal cruisers in that every ship is different. And I'm sure you know how different looking Mon Cal ships are in Rebellion. It's easier just to make them symetrical for now. Mabey it's something you can suggest for Rebellion 2? And the red I'm guessing is from Iron in the rocks the ships eat. (I wonder if those rocks are high in fiber? ) So far the design is rockin geddit? Rock?...yeah *Crowd groans*

Wow. Nice model so far I just want to point out one thing. In the early NJO books it's stated that while the Vong Cruisers are slightly smaller than ISD's in length and width, their rounded shape make them mass a fair bit more. I don't want to sound like I'm nitpicking but could it be a bit "taller." Almost like it's overweight after eating too much. Going for phat. rofl ( Off topic ness: I need to start taking my camera with me in the car. I keep seeing the perfect clouds for different ship designs. I've seen about a dozen different Perfect Mon Cal cruiser clouds just this year. )

I am so amazed that the Republic Class Cruiser came arround so fast I'm going to make a general request for Yuuzhan Vong ships. With even a handfull of models it should be possible the create a NJO Total conversion. The starting Request would be the Yuuzhan Vong Matalok Cruiser. It's equivilant to an MC-80 Mon Cal cruiser in size and shape. But looking more like a large rounded rock. lol (Their firepower should atleast match that of an ISD and they carry a full 6 squadrons of fighters. Though that won't make any difference to the model I thought I might point it out. )

The Republic class cruiser/ Star Destroyer (Which ever classification better applies) Started service with the New Republic in time for the Black Fleet Crisis. I changed topics since your previous post had mentiond the numbers of MC-80b Cruisers in that book ass well. So I was just presenting an explanation on how so many cruisers of that type could be arround. The KDY Republic class cruiser and the Mon Cal Cruiser series are two very ship types. Mabey I'm just being confused by your wording. OK. Model looks fantastic! The textures look hashy from the RebEd view but it does that to any ship that I load. But that has to be one of the highest res models I've seen in Rebellion before. I'm gonna go crash my computer with a 400 ship fleet battle now. Next Request: A Yuuzhan Vong Matalok Cruiser. (I know, slave driver. )

Um... they were. I just said they were found all through the book. (EDIT: If you were thinking of Republic cruisers from the prequel movies they never existed in the Star Wars universe until 1999. And Old Republic Star Destroyers some time after 2003. http://revell.de/katalog/400/04860.JPG Kind of late to be throwing in ships that haven't been in service for sixty years and were never seen in between. ) And as for the MC-80b Cruisers that pop up, we can just say, who knows how many of them were built before the MC-90 came into production. And alot of the cruisers used by the New Republic leading up to the fall of Coruscant were of varrying types of Star Destroyers. This leaves lots of the older Mon Cal cruisers left over to be used. Anyways it's good to hear that the model is going well.

Though I currently don't have the stuff to do voice recording I was wondering what lines you would want people to send in?

I just finished reading the New Jedi Order: Destiny's Way again. There are more Republic class Star Destroyers in that book than you can shake ten sticks at. ( And for some reason they have alot more MC-80's than MC-90's. ) Also I found one instance of the Peace Brigade actually having one of these ships in their fleet for a while. At least until Kre'fey took it away from them.

I think THIS http://www.mahq.net/mecha/macross/sdfmacross/macross.htm is the page you want when looking at the good 'ol SDF-1. lol Or this. http://www.angelfire.com/on/AODES/images/sdf1attack.gif

I ran the traitor program less than a week (7 days) later. And for some reason they keep building big fleets of Interdictor Cruisers and MC-40 Cruisers. Easy to kill with my Ster Destroyer fleets but annoying as hell.

Yes. Have patience people these things take time. Lot's and lot's of time... time... right... Ok I'm bored.

You never watched the movie of Gallipoli?!?! I mean, I only see the last 5 minutes and 20 in the middle whenever it's on tv. I can never seem to catch the start of it. Anyways that was one of many battles like it where the British screwed over it's colonies. It's not always good to be part of an Empire, especially it you end up as cannon fodder. http://www.turkeytravelplanner.com/WhereToGo/ThraceMarmara/gallipoli/ This site has a satelite view of the peninsula. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082432/ Also interesting...

"That's not true! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!" "Search your feelings, you know it to be true!" "NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"

I did a ton of espionage missions one time to update myself on how the rebels were doing, then I used the Traitor program. When I was looking through what the rebels had, almost nothing was the same as the intel reports I had gotten. They had a giant fleet massing to invade the Sluis sector when my Espionage showed some corvettes!

Actually the Pulsar station fired (would have if it had been built) shots that could take out a Super Star Destroyer not a planet. But the gravity well generators arround it's equator could stop traffic through an entire star System. And no more exhaust shafts for torpedoes to go down, unless the torp is 1mm. lol So anyways are we all agreed that The Crystal Star, The New Rebellion, and Darksaber were all crappy books to end this?