Guest Scathane Posted June 27, 2003 Posted June 27, 2003 No, smartlunch! Read the earlier posts, dude! You think we pay our royalty 4.474.000 euros per month???!!!
dude21 Posted June 27, 2003 Posted June 27, 2003 How do u came from 49 Ecent per annum to 7 Ecent per annum with lesser payers?? are u unable to calculate? "I am growing stronger with the Force"
Guest Scathane Posted June 27, 2003 Posted June 27, 2003 You're right, it was a typo: the amount we pay in total is 7.474.000 euros per annum. This means that of 7.452.830 working people, each pays 1,01 euros per annum...
dude21 Posted June 27, 2003 Posted June 27, 2003 Right noe thats what I said in former post And now do u think its nessesary?1 € per annum....Thats not much but why? "I am growing stronger with the Force"
Guest Scathane Posted June 27, 2003 Posted June 27, 2003 I never said that I felt a monarchy to be the proper form of state. However, I doubt that a republic is either better or cheaper...
dude21 Posted June 27, 2003 Posted June 27, 2003 I knowand its not so that the Netherlands are a Monarchy its a republic too isnt it? The Monarchy has just representive advantage. "I am growing stronger with the Force"
Guest Admiral_Antilles Posted June 27, 2003 Posted June 27, 2003 Just a suggestion but you might want to get back on topic.
Guest Scathane Posted June 27, 2003 Posted June 27, 2003 I knowand its not so that the Netherlands are a Monarchy its a republic too isnt it? The Monarchy has just representive advantage. Nope: "Das Königreich der Niederlande ist eine parlamentarische Monarchie: Die Funktion des Königshauses ist in der Verfassung, in anderen Gesetzen und im ungeschriebenen Staatsrecht verankert." Read the rest in German on: http://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/DU/welcome.html
ADarkJedi44 Posted June 27, 2003 Posted June 27, 2003 Seriously guys we need to get back on topic. Sweat saves blood-Erwin Rommel
Trejiuvanat Posted June 27, 2003 Posted June 27, 2003 England and Spain also are a parlamentary monarchies...In Spanish there is a rhyme for that:La Reina reina, pero no gobierna. It means that the queen is part of the hierarchy, but does not have true political power... http://www.swrebellion.com/~jahled/Trej/banner.gif
ADarkJedi44 Posted June 27, 2003 Posted June 27, 2003 This topic is doomed. Sweat saves blood-Erwin Rommel
dude21 Posted June 30, 2003 Posted June 30, 2003 Monarchy sucks!Iam proud to be a german with no King or Queen remaining (we kicked their asses all over the world ) "I am growing stronger with the Force"
dude21 Posted June 30, 2003 Posted June 30, 2003 I mean what I wrote "Monarchy sucks": Monarchy is bad thing what isnt nessasary and I would never work for a fucking guy or bitch who just eat caviar and trink wine "I am growing stronger with the Force"
Guest Scathane Posted June 30, 2003 Posted June 30, 2003 I mean what I wrote "Monarchy sucks": Monarchy is bad thing what isnt nessasary and I would never work for a fucking guy or bitch who just eat caviar and trink wine Is there any difference to your President?
dude21 Posted June 30, 2003 Posted June 30, 2003 The difference is , that the president is working and dont gets about 7 million per annum I dont know the exact payment but its not more than 300000 € per annum. I believe its even lesser "I am growing stronger with the Force"
Guest Scathane Posted June 30, 2003 Posted June 30, 2003 The difference is , that the president is working So is our Queen, dude... And I can promise you she makes more than 40 hours a week! ...and dont gets about 7 million per annum Neither does our Queen: she gets about € 3.966.000... I dont know the exact payment but its not more than 300000 € per annum. I believe its even lesser Ah, speaking of differences: you're talking about his salary, whereas the Queen amount is not her salary: it's an allowance. This allowance consists of separate components for staff costs, income, and other expenses. You see, the point is that the Queen pays for her own personnel and costs, whereas the German president charges these costs to the Republic of Germany. If you add these costs to his salary then, I'll bet you, his allowance is far higher than our Queen's. As I said: I doubt whether a republic would be better than our monarchy...
dude21 Posted June 30, 2003 Posted June 30, 2003 U realy think what u said??!well we have just one president and he changed every 5 years so its every time another one. And he must be elected if he is it worth.The queen can be stupid like bread and is nevertheless the queen because of her heritage.Thats not so in democracy. But I am not surprised that u said something like that because of the brainwashing and propaganda by the sovereigns in the countrys with monarchy.(like the stupid british) "I am growing stronger with the Force"
Guest Scathane Posted June 30, 2003 Posted June 30, 2003 (edited) U realy think what u said??! Yes, I do, but the comments I made in my last post were about allowances and salaries, not about heritage vs. being elected. But, because you usher other arguments, I will discuss them below. well we have just one president and he changed every 5 years so its every time another one. We have a Prime Minister who is elected every 4 years, so in effect, we have the same political rotation that you guys have. Mind you that the leader of our country is the Prime Minister, not the Queen; the Prime Minister holds power over the Queen. And he must be elected if he is it worth.The queen can be stupid like bread and is nevertheless the queen because of her heritage. The heritage part of it is of course true: it's strange that someone should hold a certain position just because s/he was born to a certain family. However, the fact that a president is elected doesn't guarantee he isn't stupid as bread... Thats not so in democracy. Do not confuse the fact that we have a monarchy and not having a democracy. The Netherlands are a democracy just as much as Germany, the USA, UK or France are. But I am not surprised that u said something like that because of the brainwashing and propaganda by the sovereigns in the countrys with monarchy.(like the stupid british) Who's the brainwashed one here, dude21? They had you believe that your president only costs you € 300.000 a year! Edited June 30, 2003 by Scathane
dude21 Posted June 30, 2003 Posted June 30, 2003 sigh Ok u like youre monarchy and I not well ok "I am growing stronger with the Force"
the_mask Posted June 30, 2003 Posted June 30, 2003 Oh my and I never wanted to look into this thread, but look where my boredom has lead me. Tell me Scath, are the first 6 pages filled with the same content, or is there anything about StarWars in it ? http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5183/animated9pn.gifhttp://img146.imageshack.us/img146/1778/reloadedbannerdu8.gifhttp://www.swrebellion.com/images/banners/rebellionbanner02or6.gif
Guest Scathane Posted June 30, 2003 Posted June 30, 2003 Oh my and I never wanted to look into this thread, but look where my boredom has lead me. Tell me Scath, are the first 6 pages filled with the same content, or is there anything about StarWars in it ? There actually was some Star Wars in there too... However, I keep getting entangled in these debates with dude21 here... Problem is, however, that he keeps cutting them off as soon as he realises I fried all his arguments and that I'm his mental superior... P.S - he now wants to dish it out in an online game of Warcraft III
Trejiuvanat Posted June 30, 2003 Posted June 30, 2003 No, mask there isn't it started with a Sauton Palpy comparison and it drifted into a discussion about the constitutional monarchy of the Netherlands in comparison to the parlamental democracy in Germany. http://www.swrebellion.com/~jahled/Trej/banner.gif
pviddy Posted June 30, 2003 Posted June 30, 2003 well as long as the topic is drifting about...anyone watch wimbledon? how bout those Americans and Russians? Dude, the Shnozzleberries taste like....shnozzleberries...
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