Ghostly here is my attempt at a tie fighter,, i threw it together in 10 minutes, i also need to leanr how to apply material to eack individual face. For noew im just uv mapping each individual face as you can see with the wings. It is tough to see the shape of everything because its white and there are 2 lamps canceling out eachothers shadows. I also need to figure out how to subsurf one area but not another, like subsurfing the body but not the front windows. http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/Doug89/Tie1Side.jpg