Well, Scath, it seems you got here before I did and took the opportunity to explain. And it seems you explained it such a way that didn't confuse the lad. But, yes, DJKN, me and Scath here have consolodated our minds and abilities to revise the forum ranking system. One thing, though, that Scath didn't mention to you, DJKN, was the fact that the cylinders they carry also mean something and Piett (post-promotion) had three and hius squares were six red over six blue, making him a fleet admiral. I could keep going, but Scath has provided you with a link to the resource and I don't want to confuse anyone...today.