I have a seen both before, but I don't recall the exact website. Try a search at http://www.Yahoo.com, that's how I found it. Quite. Excellent comeback, my Canadian friend, but recall that it was the Emperor himself who ruined the Empire. But realize that had the Vong attacked while all the grand admirals and grand generals still been in service of the Empire, things would have probably gone A LOT different for those aliens...especially Thrawn had gone against them. By the way, what ever happened to the retired grand admiral, Grand Admiral Grant? I'm surprised he hasn't been brought into the NJO yet to help in the fight against the Vong. Think about it, a retired Imperial grand admiral getting a call for help from the Republic and/or the Empire.... Hmm...I've got an idea for a story...or the running RPG here at SWR....