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Hope its better than the last one, though looking at the colour pics I doubt it.

Its just a joke Dinochick, and I think it was actually posted by a texan on the forum i took it from, http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?threadid=46223 not one I frquent by the way, though some of the discussion on there looks fairly interesting.

I do not try to make myself out as an "advacator of peace and negotiation" far from it, if we were in the same room there would most definetly not be any peace. And I'd like to point out that my responces came after you said this girl deserved to die because she burnt an american flag, my implication was if thats your respect of human life than you are not worthy of it yourself. And I stand by that comment.

Ignore the troll guys its not worth it.

I love this site http://www.ready.gov/ the pictures are classic imo, seen some great captions for them incl;uding my favourite: One day the world will be a better place http://www.ready.gov/i/vis_rad_local3.gif

I hope that first line was sarcasm, Dinochick, seeing how Gonkraider is using this girls views and her expression of them as justification for her death.

Also I would suggest you find a more reliable source of information than usenet, if you are cabale of that, most of the points you make up there are prtty inaccurate, especially no.4 It doesnt mention the fact that before Sabra and Chatila all the PLO had left Beiruit with Israels agreement and there were only women, children and the old left in those camps. Nor does it mention the fact that the Israeli Army flew large numbers of Phalangists from the south of the country into Beiruit and prevented anyone from entering or leaving while they were inside slaughtering the occupants. Speaking of the Phalangists, did you know they had adopted the Nazi salute as their own?

You fucking *, your trying to turn a thread about the murder of a peace activist into a justification of Israels policy if genocide against the Palestinians. How in Gods name does a women killed trying to stop a bulldozer demolishing somebodys house compare with Hitler? What the fuck are you talking about? And please leave the french out of it, I realise they're not popular in the US atm but they have got absolutly nothing to do with the subject in hand so go bash them somewhere else. And where are you going when you say palestinians are strapping bombs to their children? Even the israelis themselves arent stupid enough to think people would believe that. Please grow up and stop spouting stupid statements to support yourself, it only make syou look even stupider. As for your list of "lies and propaganda" that you have seen a million times, thank you for sharing it with us, its got absolutly fuck all to do with the topic though so take it and shove it up your arse.

And I'd like to remind you your President himself has urged the Israelis to stop doing the things she died tring to stop, so your cries that she is a traitor arent really applicable.

Since when have the french been antisemites? Since they went against the US over Iraq I would think. Do you even know what a semite is? Semite: A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians. You my friend are the one who is being anti-semitic You have the balls to call someone else a hatemonger? Please read your own posts. And where does Hitler come into this, apart from being a standard ploy of the pro-Israelis to defend Israels actions, even though Israel is probably the one nation on earth that resembles Nazi germany most. As for her choice of lifestyle, at least she had the guts to go out and try and stop something she thought was wrong, and she died doing something she believed in. I very much doubt you would.

You stupid *, you obviously do not have a fucking clue what is happening in Israel nor I would think anywhere outside your own backyard and obviously do not care. You come on here and piss all over someones death and at the same time whine because people killed some of your countrymen. Go crawl back under whatever rock you came from.

I hope your the first casualty in a new terrorist attack boy, the world can do without ignorant fucks like you. Had you any decency you might ask why she is burning her own countrys flag, but you think she deserved to die for it. You are a piece of shit my son. And no I wont leave out the personal attacks, I'm not the sort that will sit back and listen to muppets like yourself talk shite. Your post was pure flame bait, so dont act all surprised and hurt when you get flamed.

your trying to defend a guy who drove over a girl with a Bulldozer? There is absolutly no justification for what he done. And just for your information my country has been through far far more shite than Israel has, near 800 years of the Brits doing to us what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians. If you'd even bothered to think before you replied you might have realised that, but I dont think thinkings your forte.

Um Dinochick no weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq since the inspections restarted, all there was were missiles which flew 20km more than the should, thats why most of the international community is opposed to it. I sympathise with the rest of what you said though.

Considering the US has just dropped thousands of leaflets across southern Afghanistan appealling for help capturing Osama I think its very unlikely they have him. And Untimely, the people who are saying the Rep guard have been issued nbc weapons are the same people who have been saying he has them all along so I'd take that with a pinch of salt. The only sure way of knowing now is if they actually use them. I'd be very surprised though if massive amounts weren't "found" after the country is secured.

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1248.shtml Theres some sick bastards out there

That is plausible Elvis, but remember this happened before it was announced that Bin Laden was responsible. Thats not the point though, the point is they were let go without questioning. Maybe they didnt know where Osama was, but in the aftermath of the biggest terrorist attack ever you would think the perpetrators family would be the first ones questioned. If somebody shot your mother or father and the police let the gunmans family flee the country without asking if they knew where he was how would you feel? And its kinda ironic that the Bush family helped Osama to fund Al-Quada isnt it, I'm sure if it was Gore or Clinton who had done the same we'd have heard all about it long ago.

Heres a few other things you may not know: In 1979 an oil company called Arbusto was set up, one of the financial backers was the Bin Laden family. The company was run by George W Bush. The Bin Laden family also invested heavily in the Carlyle group, George Bush snrs company. In 1997 the leaders of the Taliban regime in Afghanistan flew into Houston while Bush was governer and had meetings with a company called Unocal concerning the building of an oil pipe across Afghanistan. Haliburton was the company slated to build the pipeline, its chairman at the time is the current vice president. Now a former Unocal employee is US ambassador to Afghanistan and Haliburton has a deal to build a pipeline across Afghanistan. Shortly after Sept 11th, at a time when ordinary Americans could not fly, A Saudi chartered jet flew around the US and picked up 20 or more members of the Bin Laden family and took them out of the country. This could not have been done without the US governments knowledge. Like the above post all these things were printed in the media and have not been brought up since.

From what I've read it seems the country will be ruled indefinetly by a military governer, either Tommy Franks or Jay Garner. Apparently the US doesn't want to govern the country, but they're going to anyways. And a military governer is no new thing to Iraq, nearly all the countrys in that area had military governers last century. The Guardian website has a ball of articles on iraq, heres 2 I found interesting. http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,902794,00.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,902366,00.html

My take: 1. Dunno dont really care 2. Because if they just killed Saddam somebody else in Iraq would replace him, and as you pointed out, nobody with any credibilty there is too friendly with the US. 3. There is always a way to back down, but given that hes already moved 200,000 troops into the area it seems unlikely he will regardless of what Saddam or the UN do. It was decided long ago to invade Iraq, all this is with the UN is Bush trying not to break international law. 4. If you follow the link at the top of the page you'll see what the US plans for Iraq are, US military governer with most of Saddams regime intact. So its safe to say the opposition arent going to have much say if any.

Saving someone from dying does not give you the right to kill somebody else. If the UN decideds that is worth the lives of thousands of innocent Iraqis and most likely a large amount of soldiers plus the monetary cost of war to remove saddam from power then you will most likely get the support you want. Dont expect countrys to send their men off to die to line some fat boys pockets though. As for Saddam having a lot of shit, the weapons inspectors seem to think differently and whos more qualified to say, you or them?

Untimely Demise, I dont read US press, most of what I know comes from UK or Irish TV, both of which are fairly impartial. And while I know you guys are big on the whole Republican-Democrat thing over there, realise that to a foreigner there is no real difference, so to be honest it makes no big deal to us whos in charge over there. Personally I dont think Gore would do a much better job than Bush, but thats beside the point. And while you are right in saying Gore never had more votes, the Supreme court made sure he would never have. As for your saying Bush is a good president, you are right in some respects, hes got a very good approval rating and most likely will be back for a second term, so he obviously has won you people over to his side despite the whole election business. As an international statesman however, hes a complete and utter failure, hes probably done more to damage US international relations than any other US president, at a time when you need all the help you can get. And you have to admit, he does come out with some pretty stupid things.

Actually there is evidence that the vote was rigged. 173,000 people werre struck from the registers in Florida before the elections, purportedly because they were ex-cons. A company called Database International was paid $4 million by one Katherine Harris, who was George W Bushs presidential campaign chairwoman and the persons in charge of Floridas election. The company was given orders to strike anybody who came within an 80% match of a known felon, whether it was by social security number, birthdate or name. The polling stations were reinforced with police to help turn away these people. This wasnt reported on at all in your media but the BBC ran an excellent documentary about it shortly after, t had an interviews with some of the people who had been struck ranging from old jewish grannys to the elections superviser of one county. Thats just one aspect of it, theres also the whole recount thing. Why did the Supreme court stop it? At the time the did Bush's lead had shrank to 66. Next thing its stopped. Why? "The counting of votes that are of questionable legality does, in my view, threaten irreparable harm to petitioner, and to the country, by casting a cloud upon what he claims to be the legitimacy of his election". In other words if we let it go ahead and Gore wins its going to look bad for Bush when hes President(Bush). This statement came from Justice Antonin Scalia, who coincidentally had a son working for the firm represnting Bush before him. Also by coincidence, Justice Clarence Thomas's wife had just been hired by Bush to help him pick his administration. But this of course had no influence over either judges decision Then theres the whole spoiled votes and broken voting machines, I could go on but I dont really have time. As for your newspapers, I'm well aware that many ran their own recounts, but you neglected to say that some also found that Bush would have lost the election. In the New York Times it said that going on the 3000ish overseas votes alone Bush would have lost and gave a detailed list of what votes were spoiled for what reason and what percentage were bushs. Those alone took his lead down from 537 to minus 7. But newspapers are biased and under no obligation to print the truth, so if you go waving them around as proof Bush was elected fair and square dont expect anybody to take you seriously. You also cannot say Bush won fair and square because the supreme court stopped the recount before it finished, at a time when Bushs lead was in the most danger. Therefore it was not fair and square. Rigged? All the evidence suggests so. I'm sorry if this irritates you but you're going to have to get used to it. As for you all coming together behind your president, wasnt this because of the sept 11th attacks? Correct me if I'm wrong but his approval rating was pretty low before them wasn't it? Didnt he get eggs and tomatoes thrown at him on the way to the white house? As for me disliking him, I dont dislike the guy, I find him quite humourous. The guys a complete joke, he couldnt find his own arse with a map. Its the guys in the background pulling the strings who worry me, the ones clever enough to stay out of the light. Beh my head is starting to hurt.

Ewing isnt much faster than an awing, the xwing and awing shields are way to low, not much behind a ywing iirc, kwing has 4 lasers 2 ions and a turbolaser, so should have a high laser rating, carries the same payload as a bwing iirc, bombers manueverability is way too high and Scimitars stats should be 12/8/6/6/12/12 The xwa warheads go like this, 1 bomb=2 rockets=3 torpedos=4 missiles, so 16 missiles means it carries 12 torpedos. Oh and that w-wing somebody posted above is a Preybird fighter from xwa and spectres of the past.

Aye sorry if I offended you I got a bit carried away there, but your choice of words was pretty bad, and I dont really like to see Islam portrayed in a bad light. Its actually quite a good religion if you read up on it and most of its folowers actually adhere to its principals as opposed to here in the west, where most of us simply pay lip service.