DarthTex Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 As we all know, GL and the developers of Rebellion, most likely just pulled system names out of their collective arse when assembly sectors for the game (i.e. Yaga Minor in the Sesswenna sector next to Coruscant, when Carida is much closer on a galaxy map, even though that's in another sector in the game ). Anyway, I'm thinking about "re-arranging" the galaxy in a somewhat more accurate layout, plus I want to add in several systems that seem to have gone missing (Oooww, Master Kenobi has lost the Kamino system ), such as: Kuat, Fondor, Rendeli, Alderaan, Thyferra, Adumar, etc. Now, awhile back I downloaded this galaxy map somewhere (probably here at SWR) http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/6642/swstarwarsgalaxymapcf5.th.jpg And now it appears somebody might have updated it with this one. There are several minor movements of systems, but more systems added.http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4122/swstarwarsgalaxymap2oe4.th.jpg So, I have several questions: 1) There are several numbered "boxes" on the maps that make me believe that there are "detailed" layouts available ... somewhere. Has anybody ever seen these "detailed layouts" that correspond to these maps? 2) I've mentioned a couple of systems I would like to add; does anybody have other ideas (and why you chose that particular system)? 3) Since this is a total new layout, what systems would you like to have together in what sectors? This could lead to more core sectors for this version of the game (i.e. more raw materials available, more populated systems, etc.). All of this can be done using RebEd and Resource Hacker; it just takes time. Please share your thoughts Finally, after years of hard work I am the Supreme Sith Warlord! Muwhahahaha!! What?? What do you mean "there's only two of us"?
SWR Staff - Executive Evaders99 Posted April 16, 2007 SWR Staff - Executive Posted April 16, 2007 It is the map from nav-computer.com - but sadly the site hasn't been running in a while. Cartographer was the guy who maintained and updated it, I don't know if he still doing thatI have mirrored it over at http://www.swcic.net Those boxes are indeed more detailed, inlet images. I have them somewhere. Really, this is some of the best work to show positions of systems, within the references given throughout the Expanded Universe. Some contradictions were explained on the nav-computer site. Evaders99http://swrebellion.com/images/banners/rebellionbanner02or6.gif Webmasterhttp://swrebellion.com/images/banners/swcicuserbar.png Administrator Fighting is terrible, but not as terrible as losing the will to fight.- SW:Rebellion Network - Evaders Squadron Coding -The cake is a lie.
Defender_16 Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 I read through most of that site at one time or another. It's good that they normally show the alternate planet locations with an asterix next to them or whatever. It's size and relative accuracy is good for planning out story arcs. I've tried doing this before Tex. It's murder let me tell you. Eventually I just gave up as I had better things to waste my time on. Good Luck! (Perhaps you have more patience than me.)
DarthTex Posted April 17, 2007 Author Posted April 17, 2007 Those boxes are indeed more detailed, inlet images. I have them somewhere.Well, if you should stumble across them ... soon, it would be much appreciated to see them posted I've tried doing this before Tex. It's murder let me tell you. Eventually I just gave up as I had better things to waste my time on. Good Luck! (Perhaps you have more patience than me.)I hear you Def. Patience I have, it's the time constraints that always get me . There's always something popping its ugly head up that needs attention ASAP But, I'm at least going to try Finally, after years of hard work I am the Supreme Sith Warlord! Muwhahahaha!! What?? What do you mean "there's only two of us"?
Darth_Lord_Vader Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 Well the reason that Alderaan in not on the Galactic Map is because the game starts out after the first Death Star blew up, I am sure you already know that...Therefor I have no idea why I am posting this...But planets like Kuat would be good. Teh Sith will Pownzorz you all!!!!!
budious Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 Mod the game to start with a death star destroyed system named Alderaan? Maybe even start it with the Death Star in orbit of the destroyed system and Han, Luke, Chewie, and Obi Wan on the planet surface of the destroyed system with a sabotage mission in process. Since the game skips a day in the initializing process (gameplay starts on day 2) the player would be unable to move the death star. This would give the probability that the Empire may or may not have a death star to start the game depending on the mission outcome of day 1? That would be an interesting scenario, someone toss together a mod for my idea "In the future it will become easier for old negatives to become lost and be 'replaced' by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten." - George Lucas, 1988. [u.S. Congressional hearing testimony on film preservation.] My old Rebellion site (very web 1.0) - Bud's Korner and Rebellion Strategy
budious Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 I don't suppose they would map all the galactic drive-throughs? Surely there is fast food pit stops on trade lines? Truck stops with hookers, etc. Other functional information that would otherwise be part of Google Earth novelities and markers "In the future it will become easier for old negatives to become lost and be 'replaced' by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten." - George Lucas, 1988. [u.S. Congressional hearing testimony on film preservation.] My old Rebellion site (very web 1.0) - Bud's Korner and Rebellion Strategy
DarthTex Posted April 20, 2007 Author Posted April 20, 2007 Mod the game to start with a death star destroyed system named Alderaan?Yeah, the system would look like this http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2715/alderaancy9.jpgI would like for it to still have system energy but no populace (sort of like an outer rim system), so the rubble could be mined/processed. Which makes me think the Death Star has been mis-labeled; it's really a SMERSH (Super Mining Energy Resilent Sledge Hammer) (it turns planets into smaller "rocks" for mining) Maybe even start it with the Death Star in orbit of the destroyed system and Han, Luke, Chewie, and Obi Wan on the planet surface of the destroyed system with a sabotage mission in process. I guess that would be an alternate/parallel universe kind of thing, since Obi-wan died, and the DS is already supposed to be destroyed. But, I'll look into it (just a tiny bit though ). Finally, after years of hard work I am the Supreme Sith Warlord! Muwhahahaha!! What?? What do you mean "there's only two of us"?
DarthTex Posted May 16, 2007 Author Posted May 16, 2007 OK, I have made a bit of progress. So I guess I could share what I have accomplished to date ... New sector names and locations ... http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/5686/modifiedgalaxysectorski2.th.jpg Sector importance ... http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3431/modifiedgalaxyimportancpk3.th.jpg and finally, sectors per galaxy size ... http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/1449/modifiedgalaxygamesizeci9.th.jpg I'm not quite done tweaking the "importance" and "game size" info just yet, but for the most part it's practically done. My next task is to work on all of the system names (there's only 200 of them, and some will be recycled ). Finally, after years of hard work I am the Supreme Sith Warlord! Muwhahahaha!! What?? What do you mean "there's only two of us"?
JediHunter Posted May 16, 2007 Posted May 16, 2007 Wow Tex, this is all great stuff!.. Good work man, can't wait to see your system names! "Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together."http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j34/akira9949/4297_image.jpg
ArtDecoThrawn Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 Excellent work, DarthTex! I'm trying to correlate my own galaxy map with your screenshots thus far, and have a newb question: certain sectors won't let me type out their full name (ex: Tion Hegemony). How can I do this?
Jahled Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 Excellent work, DarthTex! I'm trying to correlate my own galaxy map with your screenshots thus far, and have a newb question: certain sectors won't let me type out their full name (ex: Tion Hegemony). How can I do this? Anything and everything; from character names, starship names, systems, sectors can be overwritten by using Resource hacker and compiling a new script. The folder to do it in is Textextra off the top of my head http://www.jahled.co.uk/smallmonkeywars.gif
DarthTex Posted June 5, 2007 Author Posted June 5, 2007 Excellent work, DarthTex! I'm trying to correlate my own galaxy map with your screenshots thus far, and have a newb question: certain sectors won't let me type out their full name (ex: Tion Hegemony). How can I do this? Anything and everything; from character names, starship names, systems, sectors can be overwritten by using Resource hacker and compiling a new script. The folder to do it in is Textextra off the top of my head J is correct in that the best way to rename anything is using Resource Hacker. That's what I used (because as you found out using RebEd), RebEd limits the sector name lengths. The file with the "names" is TEXTSTRA.DLL Finally, after years of hard work I am the Supreme Sith Warlord! Muwhahahaha!! What?? What do you mean "there's only two of us"?
ArtDecoThrawn Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 Thanks for the info guys. I wanna get the hang of this for now but I'm eagerly waiting for your system names, Tex!
DarthTex Posted June 5, 2007 Author Posted June 5, 2007 Thanks for the info guys. I wanna get the hang of this for now but I'm eagerly waiting for your system names, Tex!Well, I've finished getting all my systems names and have typed them all into the TEXTSTRA file. Now the next big chore is re-arranging the systems within the sectors themselves Finally, after years of hard work I am the Supreme Sith Warlord! Muwhahahaha!! What?? What do you mean "there's only two of us"?
Defender_16 Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 Don't mean to rain on the work that you've already done, but you're not going to change the background picture?
budious Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 Looking good Tex... don't forget the space hookers! "In the future it will become easier for old negatives to become lost and be 'replaced' by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten." - George Lucas, 1988. [u.S. Congressional hearing testimony on film preservation.] My old Rebellion site (very web 1.0) - Bud's Korner and Rebellion Strategy
DarthTex Posted June 5, 2007 Author Posted June 5, 2007 Don't mean to rain on the work that you've already done, but you're not going to change the background picture?If you have a nice enough background picture to replace it with, then OK (don't forget a "grey" version )! Finally, after years of hard work I am the Supreme Sith Warlord! Muwhahahaha!! What?? What do you mean "there's only two of us"?
Defender_16 Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 I tried taking that orange map and changing it blue in Photoshop using tint. Came out kinda weird... (Or did I invert colour in paint? I can't remember.)
DarthTex Posted June 6, 2007 Author Posted June 6, 2007 How about something like this ... http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/3171/galaxybigspiralforrebelrv5.png http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/6577/galaxybigspiralgreyforrkk8.png They're already sized and use the Rebellion color palette for the game Finally, after years of hard work I am the Supreme Sith Warlord! Muwhahahaha!! What?? What do you mean "there's only two of us"?
ArtDecoThrawn Posted June 6, 2007 Posted June 6, 2007 Oh man that's pretty awesome. Certainly beats the packaged cartoony galaxy background.
the_mask Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 *cough* http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/9662/insertoneqc6.th.jpghttp://img355.imageshack.us/img355/7720/inserttwobl1.th.jpghttp://img355.imageshack.us/img355/1971/insertthreerz8.th.jpghttp://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8681/sisargz6.th.jpg Use these, you must http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5183/animated9pn.gifhttp://img146.imageshack.us/img146/1778/reloadedbannerdu8.gifhttp://www.swrebellion.com/images/banners/rebellionbanner02or6.gif
Defender_16 Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 Mask do you have all of the maps from the old nav-computer site? There was one describing a hypothetical mid-rim hyperlane that I didn't save but have since become interested in using in my stories. Do you havven to have a copy? (Can't wait to see some in-game screen's tex.)
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