Attention US/World Populace: Prepare To Run For Your Lives

[Jahled]

If you must agree, do so with as much regret and trepidation as is humanly possible.

 

 

Best line i've ever seen, anywhere

 

[PsychoInfiltrator]

Tofu, please say something irrevocably true so that Mitth is forced to oblige me by giving a demonstration. [Failing that, any compliment toward him will do.]

[DarthTofu]

You're safe as long as you DON'T agree with Tofu. If you must agree, do so with as much regret and trepidation as is humanly possible.

 

Hehe- I would, but I won't, Psych. Wow, this thread got off-topic quickly... And moved ramarcably fast once SOCL and Mitth showed up.

 

So, did you all hear: Iran has a cure for AIDS, apparently. They announced it in a memo released by the government with absolutely nothing to back it up.

[SOCL]

It's the same as when Iran's president (and not the Iranian people or even the Ayatolla) held the conference to debate the existence of the Holocaust. Iran's President has seriously messed the country and its image up and I can't wait until the next general elections when they boot him out--he and his party have become quite unpopular in Iran, even with the Ayatolla.

 

Good news, though: North Korea agreed to stop their nuclear programme.

[DarthTofu]

Korea agreed? When did that happen? Granted, I haven't had time to watch the news lately...

 

My responce when I heard that Iran had a cure for AIDS: Oh crap, they've got nuclear weapons working already?!?

[SOCL]

Korea agreed? When did that happen? Granted, I haven't had time to watch the news lately...

 

My responce when I heard that Iran had a cure for AIDS: Oh crap, they've got nuclear weapons working already?!?

Estimate on Iran constructing functional nuclear weapons puts it more than 8 years away. That's an estimate by both the United Nations and our own State Department.

 

Yeah, North Korea agreed to disarmament. This is a good sign.

[DarthTex]

So, did you all hear: Iran has a cure for AIDS, apparently. They announced it in a memo released by the government with absolutely nothing to back it up.

Of course they have a cure for AIDS Tofu, they are a fanatical fundementalist Islamic state headed by a whacko (NOT Waco: way-co, as in Waco, TX ) : the cure is called - decapitation Not quite the cure the rest of us would think of, or want

 

As for North Korea ... I'll believe it when it actually happens (permanently).

[Evaders99]

I've seen estimates for 2-3 years.. according to the International Institute for Strategic Studies

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070131/wl_afp/britainirannuclearpoliticsdiplomacy_070131165156

[DarthTex]

I thought they were going to be able to communicate via telepathy and worship a nuke, which they would use against the "enemies on the surface". And they can remove their face to reveal their true face...

 

I take it you understand the allusion, Tex?

 

It is good to converse with you fellows again.

Yes SOCL, I understand I like it when people are witty and an old coot like me can relate

[Paul]

SOCL,

Like TEX I got the allusion to the old movie. I will have to go get a copy of the flic now and watch it. Sometimes getting old has rewards lol. - Grand Moff Conway

[SOCL]

SOCL,

Like TEX I got the allusion to the old movie. I will have to go get a copy of the flic now and watch it. Sometimes getting old has rewards lol. - Grand Moff Conway

I have the whole series--all five movies. Very good.

And I especially like the cryptic way we're talking about it...

 

...and going increasingly off topic.

[Mitth_raw_nuruodo]

What movie was it?

[Evaders99]

I think we're going to have all the 3 major Democrats named duke it out... Hillary, Obama, and Al Gore. Who will hit the hayside and who will eventually team up? Guess we'll see

[Eagle]

What movie was it?

Planet of the Apes

[Aenivae_Ikeda]

If you must agree, do so with as much regret and trepidation as is humanly possible.

 

 

Best line i've ever seen, anywhere

 

 

I agree

[DarthTofu]

I think we're going to have all the 3 major Democrats named duke it out... Hillary, Obama, and Al Gore. Who will hit the hayside and who will eventually team up? Guess we'll see

 

Gore is getting up there, now? A couple of weeks ago he had only, like, 8% of the vote. He was only a step in front of John Kerry if I recall correctly... That's quite a leap for him.

[Mitth_raw_nuruodo]

I don't remember that part of the movie. Oh, well.

 

Also, thanks go out to J and AI.

[SOCL]

I don't remember that part of the movie. Oh, well.

 

Also, thanks go out to J and AI.

Watch the second one. Beneath Planet of the Apes.

 

Gore said he wasn't running. Besides, it doesn't make sense from anyone's perspective for him to run. Just for his own, personal sake, he is far more popular, successful, and likely wealthy now as an activist than he ever was and ever could be as a politician. He say he was going to run?

[Evaders99]

From what I've seen, Al Gore said he wouldn't rule out running completely. It seems that he's reached movie star status with his movie.. at least the people that want him to run are saying

So if he runs, he'll be a powerful voice for the environmentalists. I think the Europeans would approve of him running, more so than Clinton or Obama.

[SOCL]

From what I've seen, Al Gore said he wouldn't rule out running completely. It seems that he's reached movie star status with his movie.. at least the people that want him to run are saying

So if he runs, he'll be a powerful voice for the environmentalists. I think the Europeans would approve of him running, more so than Clinton or Obama.

Quite true. And given that Obama about a year ago said he wouldn't be running and is now one of, if not the most powerful voice in the running... I suppose that doesn't completely rule Gore out, though I really don't believe he will--at least, I hope not.

[Jahled]

From what I've seen, Al Gore said he wouldn't rule out running completely. It seems that he's reached movie star status with his movie.. at least the people that want him to run are saying

So if he runs, he'll be a powerful voice for the environmentalists. I think the Europeans would approve of him running, more so than Clinton or Obama.

 

Probably not from my European angle E fella! Whilst I work in, and am very concerned with conservation, and subsequently the environment, I wouldn't want David Attenborough to run the world's richest economy. It wouldn't work.

 

Whilst I haven't actually seen the apparently very dramatic film Al Gore made, I can presumably sympathize with the environmental point he was no doubt trying to make. It needs to be said. Because in about a hundred years of rampant carbon burning we have trashed this lovely paradise onto the brink of what will be irreversible damage to earth's ecosystem. If for some reason the recent appearance of factories, common use of cars, air travel etc, all spewing out exhaust doesn't lend weight to this obvious reality around us and the effect it's had on the planet, then chuckle away at the Day after tomorrow, which was utterly ludicrous, with such denial further, in the shadows of quite frankly defunct arguments. The world's leading scientists recently agreed that humans have been reasponsible for all this, even NASA in a previous report to the US government.

 

I work in a library where we recieve well in exess of a hundred journals a week, that include Nature, New Scientist, and Science that about every week feature some article concerning the effects of global warming and how we and our modern life style have and are shagging this place. I'll think i'll take the scientist's notes of caution, other than Exon's, or any neoconservative in the pay roll of's, word for it.

 

Back to Al Gore, great guy for ramming what is obvious down a nation's throat, but I feel now so stated incompatible with modern life and industry. To find solutions you are going to have to work with industry, and if he ever came to power the I suspect film would haunt him, given it is unrealistic to uninvent the combustion engine overnight, taking in to accord travel distances in North America for that matter. Those who voted for him on the extreme edge would view him a failure when he quite obviously wouldn't be able to realistically achieve much to suit the drama of the film (apparently)

 

Not entirely sure about Mrs Clinton, or Obama, given I don't know much about either, other than one is a black guy and the other was married to a President who did sod all about the Taliban when he was in charge of the watch during the nineties.

 

That I believe, is two cents!

[SOCL]

Ah, Jahled, what you write always seems like a breeze of fresh air, likely because we seem to agree on quite so much.

 

There is something--much, in fact--to be said about global warming, even if it is dismissed as being what one friend of mine called "junk science" (speaking specifically about Al Gore's documentary An Inconvenient Truth), which seems to be the general opinion among the vast majority of people with an opinion about global warming (not I said people with an opinion as most really do not care). I think the biggest issue is that global warming is being mistaken for environmentalism/conservatism rather than what it's really about, though environmentalism has a great deal to play in the matter, especially since policies related to such are the route to stopping/slowing global warming.

 

The question remains, though: can it be stopped? That's not to say that if it cannot we should not do something. Really, I think that whether or not one believes in global warming, one should still be concerned with conserving Earth's environment, politics and such aside. A pity, really, that environmentalism and conservationism are framed by the opposition as being part of a "socialist agenda" and, therefore, something bad, when in fact nothing could be further from the truth. As the name suggests, conservationism should be a matter of importance to conservative politics, as it was during the presidency of well-known environmentalist Theodore Roosevelt (for his time, that is, so please don't cite hunting as an "obvious" sign to the alternative).

 

One question, though, concerning global warming which made me sit up and wonder was how did Lief Erickson and the Vikings manage to farm in Greenland? They certainly didn't have SUVs or any other mass-carbon-burning devices. I don't mean to sound sarcastic because I am being quite, quite, quite serious since it made me think about the matter from a different perspective. Thoughts?

 

Personally, I believe the warming of the Earth may have a lot to do with natural cycles; HOWEVER, I do believe that the advent of the Industrial Revolution and the constant use of carbon-burning devices has added a great deal to what would, otherwise, be a much slower and far less dramatic cycle. In other words, despite the Vikings example, I still remain quite in favour of helping do something for the environment and concerning global warming.

[DarthTofu]

So according to Hardball with Chris Matthews yesterday the present Democratic ranking is: Hillary Clinton (35%) Barrack Obama (sp?) (25%) everyone else: Way down yonder.

 

Matthews mentioned something about Obama and his twenty-five percent being a spoiler for other Democratic candidates. If anything, the other candidates may well be spoilers for him. It kind of makes me wonder if they might not play politics in a similar manner to those in Destiny's Way.

[SOCL]

So according to Hardball with Chris Matthews yesterday the present Democratic ranking is: Hillary Clinton (35%) Barrack Obama (sp?) (25%) everyone else: Way down yonder.

 

Matthews mentioned something about Obama and his twenty-five percent being a spoiler for other Democratic candidates. If anything, the other candidates may well be spoilers for him. It kind of makes me wonder if they might not play politics in a similar manner to those in Destiny's Way.

The Democratic Party is something a mess from the perspective of traditional American politics. If anything, they're closer to be a coalition than an actual party as they have members ranging from the near-Republican conservatives to some quite liberal folks (relative to American politics as most Democrats would likely be rather conservative in most other Western nations). The funny thing is, a large entity than the Party proper exists the Caucus, which is without a doubt a coalition of the more liberal politicians, including people as conservative as Joseph Lieberman and as left as Bernie Sanders. Compared to the more uniform Republicans, they are something of a disorderly lot.

[DarthTex]

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