ISD's vs VSDs vs Mon Cals

[Lord_La_forge]

That's not what the forums are for. If you're both online, you can chat all day long on our brand new chat room.

 

Anyways, I was talking to Evaders in our CHAT ROOM, and he said, we will have a new moderator for clearing up SPAM. Necessary it is!!!

[ADarkJedi44]

The forums are not for disscusing Star Wars since when? I know some of the other threads are spam....but this one?

[Guest Admiral_Antilles]

I know on accasion you see SPAM on a few threads, but come now Laforge, this is an on-topic discussion that are not two words. You may be frusterated coming back to read a few pages of back and forths, I can understand. When I came back two months ago, I had to do the same. I may 'spam' some. I even kid about it, but instead of never posting to someone if there on is out of proportion. I visit the IRC regulary but it seems few are ever on at once.

 

I regulate my posts, by mainly staying on-topic, and posting good informative posts, have you seen my editions of 60 Standard Minutes by the way?

 

I know I do it some, I believe most do to a degree. I understand where your coming from, my friend, but lets try not to make it no fun for everyone.

[ADarkJedi44]

Congrats on your promotion to moderator by the way double A! You deserve it, especially with your latest hard work in the 60 standrard minutes. It is sort of ironic though

Anyways, let's get back on topic before our discussion about spam becomes spam itself....

Any further questions on the topic of Star Destroyers or Mon Calamari cruisers?

[Lord_La_forge]

The forums are not for disscusing Star Wars since when? I know some of the other threads are spam....but this one?

 

I mean chatting. I've nothing against the thread however. And those other threads, you've mentioned... well keep it low! Great that, you've reached 2000, but I know some Dudes here, who have reached it without any spamming! I rather would congratulate on those posts of yours, that you've sent before you've decided to reach the higher ranks. Because you are an important member here Dude! And you are a member of this community, not a Warlord.... I hope, I didn't insult you with this Darky! Just stay on the right course, we must!

[ADarkJedi44]

I understand, but can we really get back on topic here? I enjoy talking about Star Wars a lot more than spam. I belive we should move spam disscusions to the topic you set up, and get back to ISDs/Mon Cal crusiers here.

[Lord_La_forge]

shhh!...right! Go ahead!

[Krytos]

The MC90s were the big kahunas until the Viscount Star Defenders were put into service.

 

Actually, the MC-90s where the New Republic's "big kahunas" only for a few years, with the possible exception of the New Republic Star Destroyer (refitted ISDs), until the Black Fleet Crisis peroid. The New Republic, lthen, built other warships like Republic class Star Destroyers, Majestic class Heavy Cruisers and Defender class Star Destroyers (the really big kahunas until the Viscount). Just before NJO, there was also the Bothan Assault Cruiser and Mediator class Battle Cruiser - which was Mon Cals next cruiser design after the MC-90. All of these were more powerful than the MC-90.

 

As for the MC-90 vs. ISD mk I - yeah, I've changed my vote. The advantage of speed and maneuverability vs. a little more firepower, makes the MC-90 an obvious victor - assuming the ship's CO isable to exploit these abilities.

[Mad78]

BTW how many fighter squadrons does an MC-90 have?

[Krytos]

An MC-90 can house 6 fighter squadrons, or two Republic sized Wings.

[Mad78]

I guess they would destroy the ites and then help in the destruction of the ISd.

[ADarkJedi44]

That is a definite advantage, because, as well all know, TIEs are no match for New Republic fighters and once the proton torpedoes start flying.....

[Grand_Admiral_Thrawn]

That's assuming that the Republic pilots are better trained. WHile in most scenarios that would be the case, the elite Imperial Squadrons would be on par with, if not superior to, Rogue Squadron.

[ADarkJedi44]

But the "eltie" Imperial squadrons aren't going to be in many Star Destroyers. Seven years after Endor or so the Empire's fighter pilots are mostly inferior to the New Republic.

[Grand_Admiral_Thrawn]

That's true. If only the Empire had built more TIE Defenders, or even the advanced models, they probably would have wone through attrition.

[ADarkJedi44]

Yep, and they easily could have afforded a good amount of them. Yet they belived so much in their capitol ships.....

[Grand_Admiral_Thrawn]

Well, they could technically replaced figherts with capitol ships that had more anti-fighter power. You could easily have fit the firepower of a Lancer Frigate onto an ISD. Also, shielding didn't really advance that much. If they had developed a style of shielding that was more efficient and powerful, they wouldn't have had the problems they did. Fightres could have been restricted to planetary defence or special operations.

[Mad78]

It all depends on what kinda fighters the imperials are using and dont forget the IDS is still capable of giving cover to its fighters and it also depends on the captains of the two ships. Its amazing what a good captain can do.

[ADarkJedi44]

Anti starfighter protection on capitol ships is nice and all...but I don't think it's quite as good as a few squadrons of defenders

[Grand_Admiral_Thrawn]

Fighters do have many advantages, fore most being the ability to attackk multiple targets at different ranges, but I think I would take a Lancer Frigate over a squadron of TIEs of any sort. Since the Empire had no shortage of good naval officers, I think it would have worked out better for them.

[ADarkJedi44]

That's true, but no matter how good my crews, how good my guns, I wouldn't like to let the X-wings fly around freely....

[Grand_Admiral_Thrawn]

That's actually something I didn't understand about the Rogue Squadron series. X-Wings are fighter-to-fighter... erm fighters. They would be all but useless against capitol ships. Sure, you can load them up with proton torpedoes, but even a squadron of X-Wings launchign all of their warheads at once can't take out an ISD (The Death Star is the exception to this, obviousley ) I'd personally be more worried about B-Wings or even Y-Wings, but both are slow enough to be easy targets.

[ADarkJedi44]

True, the main problem with the ISDs would be their rear. Without fighters, how could they prevent Rebel fighters from moving behind the ISDs an firing the proton torpedoes away?

[Mad78]

That is one point of the ISD. I did not understand. One of the most important parts of the ship, the motors, is left literally undefended. I mean it would be easy for a faster ship to pass behind the destroyer and pound the motors until they gave away.

[Trejiuvanat]

In XWA you have the engine wash damage that will drastically reduce your shields if you attack the engines. That's for fighters. As for Capital ships, it would really have to be a faster ship, Gunship, Corvette, Neb-B, to succeed at it, and only the Neb-B has the weapons to do significant damge to the engines. There are of course TIEs to worry about, since no ISD would stay in a battlefield after all its TIEs are gone.