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I was playing the game a bit and then I got a rather odd notion, for an imperial officer. I decided to attack Coruscant with a deathstar. Now there's just a neutral pile of space junk. Can the rebs still capture this? If not how are they going to win the game? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -

Damn I was hoping I just missed the animation . It must be in there somewhere, everything else that involves the tactical window is. I'm looking through the file again and I'm starting to think that the laser animation is just a point that gets repeated along the line of the laser trajectory. I'm gonna mess around with the animation file and see what happens. (I'm gonna put a few more dots in the animation file and see if I end up with multiple laser blasts) If it works out Ill let you know. My modeling is at a standstill at the moment anyway, I can't get a registration code for GMAX. Those guys just don't reply to that registration form. Maybe it's a hotmail prob. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The problem with designing something completley foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of a complete fool.

I kinda like the snow troopers, 1: Because they look a bit cooler than regular stormies (no, it's not meant to be a pun and a horrible one at that) 2: Because they're the few stormies that actually kick some ass, they wipe that frosty rebel base of the map in short order. Most of the other stormies are bungling idiots who can't control some furry muppets. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nursie: Another good idea. You're so clever today, you'd better make sure your foot doesn't fall off. Queenie: Is that what happens when you have good ideas? Your foot falls off. Nursie: Oh yes! My brother had this brilliant idea of cutting his toenails with a scythe, and his foot fell off!

Has anybody found which part of tactical.dll houses the laser animations? I'm guessing it's somewhere in the 303 folder, in the 3000 range. But all I find there is explosions, and ion effects on the hull. Not the shots themselves. I want to see if these animations can be edited Im getting kind sick of these rather sad blips of laser fire. I want to light up the sky with green death, not just these single blips. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Look, said Arthur, "would it save you a lot of time if I just gave up and went mad now?"

Alright thanks for the explanation Mask. That might indeed be a lot shorter, but with me being me and thus being as single minded as a rabid, drug crazed pitbull with dependency issues have already finished the imperial side the old fashioned way. I'm good with that kind of simple grunt work. I just swich my mind to a some other more entertaining thoughts and my body will just go on typing/writing. (I learned this in classes where I was bored beyond belief but still had to take notes) Ill give it a try, providing I can find the programs but that shouldn't be to much of a problem. Could be a while before I figure out how to do all that correctly. (the new school year has started ) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In fact, no gods anywhere play chess. They prefer simple, vicious games, where you Do Not Achieve Transcendence but Go Straight to Oblivion; a key to the understanding of all religion is that a god's idea of amusement is Snakes and Ladders with greased rungs[/img]

Sadly that doesn't work when you take a screenshot with print screen, you get a dark blob in paint wher your model is supposed to be. I've found one program that takes good screenshots but it's not free and if you use it without a licence it puts some text in the middle of the screen. Mod update: finished 7 imperial ships,all working fine. (eta for the rest, a week? provided the weather stays crappy, and no hangover related incidents ) A new weird thing has popped up the other units in the strikegroup get moved tot the far site of the tactical box. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------What human beings are able to do--we arrive in new territories and we colonize this entire world. We can live in the tundra, we can live in the Gobi Desert, we can even contrive to live in New York, for heaven's sake, because what we do is when we arrive somewhere, and let's say, again, we arrive somewhere much colder, instead of having to wait generations or--while our natural selection favors genes that have got a thicker coat, we see an animal that has already got a thicker coat, we say, we'll have it off him!

Nevermind, I figured it out, D'oh I should have used paint the first try whoops. Ill let you know how it works out. First Ill try to make a complete Carrak cruiser and post a screenshot . (btw how do I take a screen shot in rebellion.) update: So far so good, I've managed to skin both a stargal, and a carrak cruiser, but for some reason certain parts of the ship are not textured whilst the other 20 odd something textures are, but I'm sure I can fix it. update2: Well I fixed the missing textures part, but sadly the game starts to get unstable after adding the textures, damn I should have checked that sooner. It probably has something to do with the fact that each model (close, medium,far) needs it's own texture. Damn that means about 3 times the work load. hmmm. 29 ships, times 3 times 20 that's about 1740 separate bmp I need to edit. Yarrgg I think I'm gonna spend some time on writing a proggy that can do this in batches. Update3: Yup that fixed it it was indeed the model, separate textures problem. And I've just thought of a bit of a short cut in the edeting part. That means just 560 separate bmp's still alot but do-able. And those fully textured models look great. update4: Things seem to be going fine, I've replaced four models , they work fine. I've cut the time down to half an hour per model, that includes ripping, changing the textures, binning them, placeing them in rebellion, fixing any problems and a small test run. The tactical.dll file is growing fast, it's already 10 mb, I hope this doesn't become a problem. I'm going to add some more ships and do a stress test soon. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.

The last time I was here I was replacing the original rebellion models with some better XWA ones, but then everybody hit a small snag with the texturing of the models. Since I have zero edeting skills I decided to wait till somebody else fixed it. Then I ofcourse forgot all about it for six months due to school, the important buisness of vacation. And Now I see that the texture problem has been solved, kuddos to everybody who worked on that project. Well on to my problem, I've managed to put another test model into the game (carrak-cruiser). And I've managed to put on 10 out of 21 seperate tectures onto that model (got tired). And the textures work fine, they apear in the right place (bridge, engine, etc). But the colors are all screwed up. I've tried pasting the texture bmp onto the template (fighters template 128), But as soon as I convert the colors get al screwed up. Maybe I'm just using the wrong program, mask what program do you use? Oh and also those new models look great! P.S hello to everybody. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The difference between us and a computer is that, the computer is blindingly stupid, but it is capable of being stupid many, many million times a second

Moo is not based on any known movie or series, it's an independent series. it's also one of my all time favorite games, yes even above rebellion. In the previous games you basically start on a single planet and from there on counquer the entire galaxy, become president of the senate or destroy some ultimate evil elder race. In order to achieve any of these goals you have to, colonize new worlds, research new techs, design your ships, use diplomacy and spying to be victorious. Both tactical and stratagy is turnbased and are quite fun. In the second game there where some 8 or 10 races. All having their own strengths and weaknesses. Not to mention that you can create your own race. Plus techologies are really diverse in this game from the lowly laser tot the stellar coverter. (deathstar eat your hart out). Many a planet has been shot to pieces thanks to this gadget. The third installment of this most excellent series is promising to be even more complex, with 16 races devided into a couple of sub-catagories, Humanoid, Saurian, ect. And these guys can have rebellions and split into little empires, which have the same options as the original ones. Anyway I could probably talk about this for hours, It’s best if you check out (http://www.orionsector.com, or http://apolyton.net/moo3/. It’s been delayed for ages, but it looks like a winner. Hmm, games that last weeks, fleet battles with 100’s of ships, disgnable craft from missles to Levithans (1-2 km ships), 100’s of techs, tactical groundbattles, senate politics/backstabing (Don’t like nukes, ban em!) and the list goes on and on. *drools* The game should be modablem. all values are stored in some kind of spread-sheat format and the moddels can be edited with 3d max, not to sure about that last part thoug. *hell it should be easier than Reb ,right Sorry about the comercial, but both Moo’s are my all time fav games. I still get a chuckle when It asks for DirectX 2. Oh and Heagemonia is nothing like homeworld. It’s pretty, but tactics are non-existant in this game. When you only have fighers build fighters, when you develop cruisers just build cruisers and finally once you develop battle ships, your fleets will consist of nothing but giant battleships and you’ll send them in straight lines at your targets. Plus the 2 campaigns merge after four missions and from thereon are exactly the same. But it does look insanly good for a RTS though. Wreckage and missles flying about in a beautifull light show. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The bigger they are, the harder they fall. They punch, kick and choke harder too.

**** ---- Waring based on nothing buy my opnion and it does not have any merrit outside my skull. ---- **** Well according to Lucas Jar jar would make an exellent addition to the SW universe, so I don't value his oppinion that much. But I guess it's just human nature, from the earliest tales their have always be some sort of ulitmate evil, from dragons to suncrushers. This does not mean thats this makes a good story or plot, it makes it entertaining to the masses. It's like comparing Brittney to Bach and sayig "hey it's both music". (must have something to do with our evoltion from prey animals) Good writers are able to shift the focus of these almighty weapons to the charchters, the weapons can still be in there but are not obscuring everything else. But this does not mean all the other books are crappy books by any standards. These books have been creeated to entertain, and entertain they do. But they don't make you think or care about any of the people in them after you close the book. Unless of course you are a true Starwars fan. But there is so much great literature both old and new in the world to enjoy, that it's a waste of time to read books like those written by KJA unless you truly and enjoy the universe. Oh and on a side note, I did an amazon search on KJA and found about 93 books, of which there where at least 70 in the SW-universe.(The rest was dune and X-files) Exluding doubles and hard/cover this still leaves about 40-50 books. Does this strike anybody else as a bit much, Since Lucas only started to aprove Sw books in the early 90's. There are great writers who never write more than 10 books in their entire live. And yet KJA manages to do this in less then a decade. Hmm "Quality or Quantity" anyone? (which btw is also the title of a kickass Bad religion song. ) Oh and on a side note I never was a big fan of deathstars .(It seemed like a waste of resources why build one station when you can also build 10 fleets that can wreak havock on 10 different planets at a time) But at least it was less ludicrous that the suncrusher, because it took the infrastructure of the whole empire to construct these blasted things, not to mention the gazillion troopers, techs and officers. The suncrusher on the otherhand can be be piloted by a hand full of people, is impervious to TL and can fly straight thtough the superstructure of ships and can come out the otherside without problems. And on a side note they can blow up suns, and withstand a blast that rips appart planets. Not to sure about that last part. At this point I was already searching for a flamable porcupine to hit KJA with. Well I'm of to the dentist Just enjoy whatever you are reading be it a television guide, KJA or Shaw. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you believe in telekinesis, raise my hands. **** ---- Waring based on nothing buy my opnion and it does not have any merrit outside my skull. ---- ****

It was "Jedi Search, by Kevin J Anderson" First off, I must say that I rarely read science fiction I generally read along the lines of Victor Hugo or E. M Dostojewsky. But I had read some S.F before that agreed with me. This was all original S.F things like Niven, Asimov and Herbert. Real writers who create their own universe and place their characters within them. usually I stay the hell away from an already defined universe like SW. But then a good friend ( a friend who usually knows what he's talking about) recommended Zahn, and I was pleasently surprised. Here was a writter who saw the characters from the movies and expanded from there, he matured the characters, but in a way that seemed natural. He created new charcters that had depth and logical goals. After some time I decided that I'd like to read another starwars book. A Kevin J Anderson book. All the original charcters where changed, they became shallow, whinning individuals, it added (to my knowledge) chachters. Like the 1 dimensional megalomanical Daala. And non sensible plot devices like the sun crusher. These where really stupid villans and cheap ways to further the plot, the ones you get in bad movies. During the entire book I generally knew what was going to happen in the next twenty five pages. Books are a pretty personal thing for me, I don't read a story I live it. I'm there when the action is, I'm there when I see chacters display thier emotions, become friends or bitter enemies. It becomes a fantasy world for small amount of time. Keven J anderson's novel was just plain wrong in my eyes. I'm convinced he couldn't create a plausible charcter if he needed it to save his grand mother. I checked a few other books just to make sure, maybe this one was just plain bad, but most lacked any detail. Sure there where some good parts but on the whole it was like sitting trough a bad, bad movie just because you payed money. Not to mention the fact that, Kevin J Anderson seems to think that the sum total of human knowledge is located in his head. I remeber an interview I read a while back. It was about some glaring faults in his newly adopted universe Dune. (I'm noticing a trend here) I think it's a prequel (another trend), anyway there were some things that seemd way out of touch with the universe and the Dune Bible. Remeber the dune bible is a book that is created with the help of Herbert himself and he said it was correct, it discribed the way he saw the dune universe. Kevin J Anderson simply said in one sentence. It is wrong, I'm right. On which I responded, He created the bloody universe, don't you think he might know whats right and what's not!!!!. (This BTW raised some eyebrows on my fellow students, because I was in a computer lab at the moment and talking to my computer screen.) Since then I stayed the f*ck away from books like that and I've been a lot happier since. BTW I still think Zahn is one of the better latter-day S.F writers and I can recommend both, The conquers trilogy And The Icarus hunt both are good works of fiction. Sorry about insanely long post, I hope I dind't bore you to death with things that only seem important to me. BTW the large amount of spelling/gramatical errors are a result of having just returned from an exellent party (GF just got her drivers license) and not having slept in the last 25 hours or so. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't knock on Death's door ... ring the bell and run. He hates that!

Thx Indeed that could work. You could create a rogue squadron-ish kinda fighter group.Just dump a buch of them together save it as a single model and replace a med-transport. (can you move the med transport up the research tree?, like dump it somewhere after the Neb) This Squadron would be A. be really really though to beat B. would cost somewhere between a dauntless and a bullwark It could be used to kinda strenghten the alliance fleet. Which needs some help in the later part of the gane. They should also have a pretyy hefty upkeep cost too, rogue squadron is apperently famous, like intergalactic rockstars or something. This could explain the high cost. they'd proably demand booze, blue space bimbo's, ect. But my knowledge of rogue squadron is limited. I've never read those books, after reading a horrid story by Kevin J Anderson (that man should be hit over the head with a burning porcupine) that nearly destroyed starwars for me I steered clear of anything not written by Zahn. Besides I don't like what I've heard about most of those other strories either. It's always mega cannon this, Indestructible that or some kind of darkside empowered underwear that makes the wearer invisible and be able to destroy the uniiverse with a thought. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --Why do you always call me little grashopper, sensei? - Because you ugly, like insect!

Not to mention the fact that my poor little guys are in enough trouble as it it. I wouldn't want them to be stuck in a xwing/tie cockpit for the 300 days it takes to cross the universe. Besides the chances of it unbalacing the game are too high. As you could create a fleet of cheap figthers (300 plus) and dump them on your enemy early on. It would turn our beloved reb into a rush game. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The job of the brain, the most complicated and subtle piece of engineering in the entire universe, is to generate the human mind. Which is a bit like building a space station to grow carrots in, really." - Sergei

Also If you park your car on sidewalks, bike-trails and what not. The big blue pedestrian of unappines will probably stomp all over them with his big size 11 boots. This from a non car owner who frequently finds the only entrance to his house blocked by inconsiderate motorists. Especially since he has a put up a giant sign that says in big bold red letters "Do not park here!!, You will be blocking my only!!! entrance. So for the love of god please do not park here!!!!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, set that same man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life,

I see no reason why this shouldn't work, you can pretty much scale down models to whatever size you want. (I've had a tactical box spanning stardestroyer I see no reason why It shouldn't work the other way.) But there are a couple of mayor problems with this idea. One. Your ships are gonna be damned hard to find, So your only gonna be able to move them in task force mode, not one at a time. Two. They are gonna move like capships which means move in a straight line, and try to fire broadside. Three. I haven't a clue how hit chances are caluclated in Rebellion, cap ships always hit other capships, so you need to make one hell of a strong fighter. So you can make autonomous fighters they're just won't actvery fighter like. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I used to be schizophrenic but we're okay now.

Yikes Now I remeber why I hate to be drawn into the whole ST:SW discussion. It's a whole bloody discussion based on nothing but assumptions , there isn't a single fact in sight. I havn't a clue about what the average ST shield can absorb in terms of energy released upon a square foot, nor do I have an idea about what kind of power a standard turbo laser generates. The only thing I can safely state, are numerical and social differences, in which case neither party gains an advantage ( big empire means lots of internal social problems.) A ST or SW fan Is always going to be able to support his/her arument, because the other party is simply not able to disprove it. It's not like I have A stardestroyer lying in my back-yard, to test it with. P.S All correct spelling and/or arugments with any merit are purely coincidental and should be ignored, because I'm blissfully drunk at the moment. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A conclusion is simply the place where you got tired of thinking.

The_Mask has a extremly helpfull website with all the needed files and info on how to use them. The site's url = http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/d_kelley/english/index.htm Happy modding BTW If you find a way to import Textures let me know, these "wack" files are a pest to convert. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.

Well assuming they'd be able to fly trough the shields. Then It be a simple case of dumping a smal clump of antimater and that would be the end of it. Antimater reacts with the ship causes a largish bang, this increases the heat to such a degree that all mater will either revert to plasme (a.k.a more heat) or fuse and cause an even bigger explosion and release of energy. But why would ships be able to through shields, No ships seemed to be able to fly throught the Coruscant (whichever why to spell it) during the Thrawn siege. Besides I'm not to sure about inferiour shield technology, I mean the SW universe has those big ass planetary shield, that seem to be missing in ST. Besides the empire's strenght comes trough sheer numbers. The Empire has zillions of systems and a fleet of over 250.000 stardestroyers. Add to that a total imoral ruling body that has no problems in conscripting rows, upon rows of homicidal shock troops. Whearas the federation has a though code of ethics and morals, Yeah like thats a match for a gazillion stormtroopers bent on destruction. AAAAAHHH dear god nooooo. I've posted in a sw.vs.st thread. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If at first you don't succeed, then sky diving definitely isn't for you.

I've been wondering. I'm assuming golans have hyperdrive (or ar dragged around by heavy lifters), so you can also protect planets without shipyards. And they can't move It be kinda stupid to have battle stations wandering about the tactical map. What happens if the rebs. attack a planet of mine defended by 3 golans, with a force comprising of several golans and a corv. The corv will probably get smashed in 3 secs, but what happens then. The golans are gonna be out of range of each other and they can't move. Endless battle with the Imps and Rebs sending insults over the comm. "your father smelled of wet Ewok fur and your mother was a space hamster you rebel cretin? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ If the shoe fits, get another one just like it.

Indeed way to early. Save your xmas shopping till the 24th of december. Than you can have the thrill of beating off hordes of stressed out shoppers. See the shop keepers crack and burst into tears, use this time to ask him for a discount or start to haggle. Frolic between the rows of idiots who seem to think today is a good day to use the car to get to the city center. Great times are had by all. All the while you mosey along quietly with your discman blasting at full power, pick up the things you want, thank the gods that you have a girlfriend who A, knows what she wants and B is born on December the 25th. p.s. Has anybody heard something about Texture editing? I've pretty much ran into a Durasteel wall and i'm pretty sure I can hear a pack of uptight rancors behind it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot. Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.

I'm afraid it's been cancelled. But there are however some eppisodes that havn't been broadcasted yet and they are showing them now. They're from the last production run but the geniuses of fox decided to just shelve them. That means at least a few more eppisodes for me to download. They stopped broadcasting them halfway through season 2 im my lousy country This is a pretty good Futurama site. http://www.gotfuturama.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When I die, I want to go like my grandfather did, peacefully in his sleep. Not yelling and screaming like all the passengers in his car.

Yikes, "wack" is actually a format. Didn't know it was some odd texture generating plugin-for photoshop, I've never used it before. I just assumed it was just a really, really strange format used by rebellion. I though it was just just described as being wack/wacky meaning odd. Due to some good fortune of mine I have a nephew who probably has a copy (graphic design student) I think I can borrow it for a while. Because photoshop actually costs something like us$609.00. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Show me a man with both feet firmly on the ground, and I will show you a man who can't get his pants off!

Thanks for the offer Mask. But it's not neccesary I have the good fortune to have some german exchange students living 3 doors down the hall. A quick question about the textures. Did the rebellion team take a regular BMP and then for some unexplainable reason, stripped the header. Or did they use some kind of odd Mac paint image or raw file? I've tried a dozen or so programs, but nothing seems to work. I did pick up some random bits of info on the web this one seemed fairly accurate. ------------------------------- MAC (Macintosh Paint) MAC files are used in the Macintosh MacPaint application. The MAC format file has 2 basic options: * The common option is a ported MacPaint files,that includes a "MacBinary" header. * The rare option is the one used with PFS First Publisher,this file has no header. In order to migrate a MAC file from a Macintosh to a PC, a "MacBinary" header has to be added to the file format. MAC images can be transferred "back" from a PC to a Macintosh. Unless you have a specific PC application that requires no header, the MAC files should be saved with a header. The MAC format requires always an image width of 576 pixels and a height of 720 lines. For that reason files converted to the MacPaint format from other formats will be cropped or padded out as necessary to fit in the 576X720 pixels size. MAC file format supports only 1 bit per pixel, meaning that Only monochrome files can be converted to MacPaint files. Characteristics: MAC - without a header format supports 1 bit per pixel. MAC- with a header format supports 1 bit per pixel. -------------------------------- But then again why would they make the textures using a mac, whilst they used regular bmp's for the rest. A well back to schoolwork for me. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.

Yeah I'm aware of Lithunwrap, but since I'm not really doing any real modeling as of yet, i'm just transporting existing models into the x format. I'm only using the viewer as a program to check model size in comparison to an SD. Since I'm only using one source and made a bach file with a set size, all models are pretty much in scale. Sadly so far I've just created some very effective cloaking devices. I've gonna see if I can transform some of the orignal rebellion textures into something usefull and then back engineer from there. But I don't have a lot of free time, I'm in the middle of hellweek (next week it's "finals time" and I still need to read about 5 research papers two of them in german ). So it might take a while. Lets hope Magnus comes up with something usefull before that. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Clothes do make the man, naked people have little or no infulence on our society.

never mind. D3D viewer proggy was just pulling them from the dir. DOH! this is what happens if you don't think about what you're doing. Maybe I should have been a little bit less lazy. . I'm just gonna screw around with the program and see if I can produce something better. And in the wrong forum, yay when you're on a roll you're on a roll. Now lets see if I can convert the bmp to rebellions wack format and get some textures onto these things. That chat transcript between Magnus and jediIgor didn't really clear things up for me.