Wow this topic is hot! I like the Tex vs. SOCL dialogues. I just want to add, that I hope that it is the right time, or better formed, "the time has come". The whole institute needs that refreshment. Sooner or later, there must be an Obama in that chair, that is a step forward. And even if it's true what Tex said, that the other platform works better in the US (or atleast people there think that), it will be a social and cultural benefit in the long term. Let him/her (rather him!!! ) take the lead, see what he and his people can do, and if you still don't like it, get those veterans and religious dudes back to business. Very good point Eagle. Economy is what matters. Terrorists, yeah okay. First black mate, yeah we know. But what would they really change? That is something politicians tend to forget to tell (good example: my stupid little country) Everything you see or hear is propaganda. solution always means something like this: don't have money for A. We will get money for A!! But we need to take it from B. (boooo. No votes. Failure) don't have money for A. No problem, vote for us, we are the reps/dems, we know how to get money for A, and stop the terrorist btw (yay! Everybody happy! Though after voting, they still take the money from B)