Nightmarenny Posted October 21, 2005 Posted October 21, 2005 Just to point out a few things. At this moment we know of three kinds of sheilds. Ray shield-Apsorbs radiation and and raw energy. Lasers and stuff are stopped. Found on most moddern star ships. Particle shield-Stops physical things like concusion weapons. Though only a complete particle shield stops proton torpedos. This along with ray shield forms a deflector shield. It is most likly this weapon that is used to safe guard the second death star. Repulsur lift stoppers
Dorkthehunter Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 The point is the shield generator was inside the shield on Hoth! Why does Petro think it is Star Warsy to put it outside the shield? Delphi, can you help us? Protecting the world from those who have an IQ higher than 30! Huzzah! Trust me...I'm a professional. Some other members and I are trying to be superheroes and save the forums. But we can't do it on our own. We need your help! Join us! http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5380/pffuserbar2modnp0.jpg
Dorkthehunter Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 The point is that the shield generator is inside the shield on Hoth! So why is Petro claiming the shield generator being outside the shield to be "Classic Star Wars location"? Protecting the world from those who have an IQ higher than 30! Huzzah! Trust me...I'm a professional. Some other members and I are trying to be superheroes and save the forums. But we can't do it on our own. We need your help! Join us! http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5380/pffuserbar2modnp0.jpg
Juggernaut1985 Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 Ever thought that maybe its being put outside for balance. I'm guessing a shield is going to be somehting quite powerful.
Zer_Teron Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 Actually the AT-ATs destroyed the Power Generator not the Shield Generator http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3488/zersigef1.jpg
AT-AP Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 Actually, it was the power generator for the shield. But I digress. The point is, they could have made it possible to just walk through the shields with grounded craft in the game, a good task for walkers. http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/CptK/StarCruiser.jpg
Dorkthehunter Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 Didn't they say protect the shield generator, or something like that in the movie? P.S. Sorry for double posting. Didn't know i sent the first one. Protecting the world from those who have an IQ higher than 30! Huzzah! Trust me...I'm a professional. Some other members and I are trying to be superheroes and save the forums. But we can't do it on our own. We need your help! Join us! http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5380/pffuserbar2modnp0.jpg
Makwu Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 It was said that the shield "power core" was outside of the shields "true to star wars"
plokoon9619 Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 Well let me clarify a bit. Aiming a laser at the ground from space isn't very technologically impressive, even by today’s standards. Being able to hit a target would be pretty easy. Now, this is star wars not real life. In star wars, I don’t recall any examples of a spaceship targeting a ground unit or structure. But I have only read about half of the EU. Though I do recall an example of when Thrawn was able to get a planet to lower its shields and forfeit to save time. There was (If I recall) some unwritten implication that the fleet could do very heavy damage to the planet. But how precise that damage would be was unclear. Another point, which I have no seen much about in star wars is counter-measures. As targeting systems improved, so would jamming systems. Although the technology for aiming a laser at a large capital ship is rudimentary, the technology to deceive such a targeting system could be devised. Though missing a cruiser passing by you even at a high speed seems highly unfeasible under any circumstance. But hey, this is science fiction. If consensus says that in star wars, they can’t target ground troops, then I’m all for it being like that in a star wars game. He used cloak caracks(thats ej says) to pull the shields a part so he can get a shot through.
Zer_Teron Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 No The cloaked Carracks were lead underneath the shield on tractor beams from supply ships. Then he used Joruus Ca'both or whatever to tell the Carracks to fire at precisly the right moment so that the Chimeras blasts hit the shield and disippitated but the Carracks fired right then to make it appear that the Chimera had fired two presice Turbolaser blasts right through their very powerful shields. http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3488/zersigef1.jpg
JanGaarni Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 Ever thought that maybe its being put outside for balance. I'm guessing a shield is going to be somehting quite powerful.We understand why it's being put outside the protection of the shield in the game. What we don't understand is why they state it's true Star Wars Lore? This is news to me, cause only games have put shield generators outside the protection of the shields, and only for 1 reason: So it's easier for 1 person to do damage (as if 1 X-Wing can take out an entire Star Destroyer for instance ).If they said "... in true Star Wars Game Lore" I wouldn't bother about it. http://www.lfnetwork.com/images/lfnlinker.gifStar Wars: Empire at War.Net Moderator&SWGalaxies Moderator Co-Leader of The Affiliates! -A-- What we do in life, echoes in eternity!- May the pants be with you!
AT-AP Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 "In true SW fashion" you would have walkers or crawlers go through the shield and destroy it from inside. http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/CptK/StarCruiser.jpg
Foshjedi2004 Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 Thats what they did in ESB! http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/knivesdamaster/tags/sith_omguserbar_member.jpg
AT-AP Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 Exactly. http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/CptK/StarCruiser.jpg
Ghostly_Substance Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 Well maybe they're worried about someone cheating and being a coward inside the shield that they dicided to put it outside so nobody would act like a coward ? "Common out and face me you fool""Nah i'll just sit here where its nice and safe""YOu coward get out""WHy should I its nice and safe here""Such a noob you are, exits multi game" Or for a Campaign battle maybe the AI would use it wisely and you'd be near owned ? -One Empire falls another riseshttp://myanimelist.net/signature/EuroSubstance.png http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/os/type/2/ghostlysubstance.png
AT-AP Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 If you're on the planet with ground vehicles, you'd just walk through anyway. I don't really see the arguments against it being on the inside. http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/CptK/StarCruiser.jpg
Ghostly_Substance Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 Well what if he has about 20 of those rebel rocket launcher, 10 Rebel infantry groups, 10 scouts, 20 anti infantry, 2 waves one of X-wings then other of Y-Wings ? And if lucky 2 turrets around the base ? What if you have 4 At-AT, 5 Republic tanks, 20 groups of infantry, 2 waves of bombers, 10 AT-STs. Then 2 heroes like Obi-Wan vs Vader -One Empire falls another riseshttp://myanimelist.net/signature/EuroSubstance.png http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/os/type/2/ghostlysubstance.png
Makwu Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 Well maybe they're worried about someone cheating and being a coward inside the shield that they dicided to put it outside so nobody would act like a coward ? But that is the whole point of defensive shields. So that you don't have to run out and face your opponent on their terms. They must come to you. And you get to make a defensive position in anticipation of that. From a gameplay standpoint, a defensive shield just makes the value of your defending units go up, changing the balance of the forces (As it should). Some say that having it inside would increase unit clumping and camping. Which is true to an extend, but also true to how combat takes places. I think having two targets within the shields, the power core and the shield generator, makes most sense. It will make the defender have to defend two points (Less unit clumping) but still have a lot of advantages.
AT-AP Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 If you're an Imperial on the outside, everything but the bombers can get in. That's how it is. http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/CptK/StarCruiser.jpg
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