Current/Recent World Conflicts thread.

[JediHunter]

thats hilarious J... where did you find it?.... lol.. attack of the crones...

[Eagle]

  Jahled said:

Not mine, but made me laugh:

Lol! The emperor himself and his clones.

[Defender_16]

So would III be some kind of Engrish Revenge?

[DarthTofu]

I don't think it had any regards to the Team America speach impediment, Def- it was more with the defenition of "Crones" as in "cronies," as in "henchmen." At least that's how I interpreted it.

[JediHunter]

i interpreted it as the speech impediment that stereotypically Asian ESL (english as a second language) speakers have... you know... L = R... so instead of pLease its Prease.. and so therefore.. cLones becomes cRones... thats me though..

[SOCL]

Ahem.

 

Time to get on topic, or stop posting--or be closed down.

[Jahled]

http://www.jimcromwell.com/landfill/solonghussein.jpg

 

Not mine, but 'current,' I guess...

[Lord_La_forge]

that's heavy

[DarthTex]

  Jahled said:

http://www.jimcromwell.com/landfill/solonghussein.jpg

 

Not mine, but 'current,' I guess...

What most people don't know is lynching is an art. The size and stretch of the rope, the weight of the ... convicted, and the counterweight all play an important part is a well executed hanging. Now, if the rope is not elastic enough, it could break (the injured convict is then, re-hanged) or rip the head off the convict (which is a mess to clean up). Same goes for the counterweight if it was too heavy (i.e. ripping the head off), but if it was too light ... the convict's neck wouldn't break quickly and nicely, and they would s-l-o-w-l-y suffocate. Truly an excuriatingly slow and painful death. Well, back in the day, a well respected convict would get a new rope for his hanging (that usually equated to a quick and humane death), otherwise the sheriff would "save some money" and use an old rope, which could "malfunction" so to speak Too bad most of the ol' Texan sheriffs are now at Boot Hill; they could give Saddam a proper hangin'

[JediHunter]

wow Tex, i had no idea you apprenticed in lynching.. in all seriousness though.. at first when i heard about the decision i was a little put off.. i found it a little too extreme.. but then i remembered everything he did... but i dont think its right to execute someone with spite... so.... its a good thing im not the one doing it.. lol..

[SOCL]

It's hard for me to ever agree with corporal punishment for anything. In truth, I personally cannot see the use in punishing someone for the rest of their life (or denying them life at all) for something they have done. For me, it seems a tad barbaric, but every so often, something like the case concerning Hussein comes to the foreground and bothers me to the core. What to think of this is a wee less difficult, though I can't say I support death as a penalty for any crime, I can say that there are evil, evil people in this world who deserve some very severe punishments. Death, though it really just ends it for them, may be the closest thing we have to a humane punishment that can at least equal the crime committed.

[Eagle]

The worst thing which could happen to Saddam would´nt be Death. Why not convert him to a jew and give him a israeli-passport?!

[Jahled]

  DarthTex said:

What most people don't know is lynching is an art. The size and stretch of the rope, the weight of the ... convicted, and the counterweight all play an important part is a well executed hanging. Now, if the rope is not elastic enough, it could break (the injured convict is then, re-hanged) or rip the head off the convict (which is a mess to clean up). Same goes for the counterweight if it was too heavy (i.e. ripping the head off), but if it was too light ... the convict's neck wouldn't break quickly and nicely, and they would s-l-o-w-l-y suffocate. Truly an excuriatingly slow and painful death. Well, back in the day, a well respected convict would get a new rope for his hanging (that usually equated to a quick and humane death), otherwise the sheriff would "save some money" and use an old rope, which could "malfunction" so to speak Too bad most of the ol' Texan sheriffs are now at Boot Hill; they could give Saddam a proper hangin'

 

Cricky! I had no idea there was so much depth to the subject!

[Darth_Rob]

Its sorta like the art of the electric chair. It didn't always work, espicially if someone "forgot" to use the wet sponge. Then that would be quite a painful and unpleasant death. But Saddam got what was coming to him. I don't mean to sound brutal or barbaric, but I prefer to see him hanged than to be given a lethal injection.

[Lord_La_forge]

I would be courious about his mental condition right now. He looked like a crazy old man, without any insight

[Darth_Rob]

That's how he's always looked...

[SOCL]

  Darth_Rob said:

That's how he's always looked...

Even when he was shaking Rumsfeld's hand...?

[DarthTofu]

  DarthTex said:

What most people don't know is lynching is an art. The size and stretch of the rope, the weight of the ... convicted, and the counterweight all play an important part is a well executed hanging. Now, if the rope is not elastic enough, it could break (the injured convict is then, re-hanged) or rip the head off the convict (which is a mess to clean up). Same goes for the counterweight if it was too heavy (i.e. ripping the head off), but if it was too light ... the convict's neck wouldn't break quickly and nicely, and they would s-l-o-w-l-y suffocate. Truly an excuriatingly slow and painful death. Well, back in the day, a well respected convict would get a new rope for his hanging (that usually equated to a quick and humane death), otherwise the sheriff would "save some money" and use an old rope, which could "malfunction" so to speak Too bad most of the ol' Texan sheriffs are now at Boot Hill; they could give Saddam a proper hangin'

 

... I'm more than a little disturbed by the fact that you know so much about this matter, Tex...

BTW: You spelled "excruciatingly" wrong.

[Jahled]

  SOCL said:

  Darth_Rob said:

That's how he's always looked...

Even when he was shaking Rumsfeld's hand...?

 

Wasn't that taken when the cold war was still on?

[SOCL]

  Jahled said:

  SOCL said:

  Darth_Rob said:

That's how he's always looked...

Even when he was shaking Rumsfeld's hand...?

 

Wasn't that taken when the cold war was still on?

Quite right. I just thought it was something interesting to show since most people have never seen it before...

Okay, I'll admit it. I just wanted to show it.

[Lord_La_forge]

Good post, SOCL. We shouldn't forget this part of history either.

[SOCL]

On a related topic, CNN just reported that President Bush during a news conference said that Donald Rumsfeld (interesting timing on my part!) will be resigning as Secretary of Defense.

 

Can't say I'm unhappy....

[DarthTofu]

Dammit, you beat me to it, SOCL! I was going to comment on that, as well as the Democrat's legislative victories.

 

A right wing president vs. a left wing Congress- hopefully both will come close® to center like they did with Clinton...

[Jahled]

No tears here either for the bloke..

[SOCL]

Indeed.

 

In any case, it seems the House will be led by the Democratic majority, while the Senate is still up in the air. The Montana vote has gone to the Democrats, which leaves Virginia. Damn Virginia. Yes, it was my fault--I happen to live in that state. Truly, though, James Webb one the seat, even if only by a little (7,000 votes), but state law allows for George Allen to call for a recall of the votes...which could take weeks... I understand why it's in place, but according to everything I have read, the numbers are about as accurate as they're going to be...and truly, it's rather difficult to accidentally miscount 7,000 votes. In any case, I predict Webb will likely gain the seat, meaning another seat for Democrats in the Senate, meaning...

 

Meaning that the Democrats will have a majority in both houses of Congress, albeit by one seat in the Senate. In any event, either nothing is going to get done, or perhaps this great nation will finally end its petty squabling and return to some sort of cohesive middle ground where we can all talk to each rather than yell.

 

Not quite a world conflict, but it directly relates as we will likely see soon enough. By that I mean that the results of the Baker report on the progress and status of the conflict in Iraq will be coming out soon, and by all indications, it isn't quite favourable to the war or current Administration policies. Indeed, President Bush said a few weeks ago that the committee had completed its report, but he did not want to release the findings as he worried it would "influence the elections"... Now, unless things have changed in the last million years of human evolution (i.e. greed), I don't think he would have withheld the findings unless it was negative for the GOP/Republican Party. It's quite possible, in fact, that the recent elections and all the subsequent backlash it will cause (e.g. Rumsfeld resigns, Baker report, etc) may begin the process of withdrawing forces from Iraq.

 

And my British friends more knowledgable about this may correct me, but didn't the Chief of Staff of the British Army (or Armed Forces?) speak out against the policy in Iraq and say something along the lines that he desired for a British withdrawal from Iraq? Further, didn't PM Tony Blair agree with him? At least, that's what the BBC reported a month or so back. I do not believe that even President Bush's unilateral policy will hold without the USA's strongest ally. I could be wrong, I have been before, but this is just an (educated) guess.