Defender_16 Posted February 4, 2006 Posted February 4, 2006 (edited) Somone was bound to bring it up at some point or another. I'd rather do it myself and get it over with. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/31/international/middleeast/31danish.html What's everyones take on the situation? Yes, It's against Muslim religion to have pictures of ANY worshiped figure. (Something to do with the Ego? I can't remember.) But there are people across half the planet screaming at a govenment to appoligise over something an independant newspaper did. They can't of course, the newspaper did it not the government, so they can't appologise. Protest to the newspaper or something, don't burn down the country's embassy. I was wondering, these comics came out in September, why has it takien until now for there to be a global response? And what a response! The news paper has appologised by the way but things are still getting worse. Edited February 6, 2006 by Defender_16
Mad78 Posted February 4, 2006 Posted February 4, 2006 I find this is all going over the top and that they are over reacting.I just think of the pope. How many cartoons of him have been made? thousands!Anyway i can't really judge since I am not a muslim. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Palpycard.gifhttp://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Spamkinguserbarcopy.jpgCLICK HERE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!Click here is you like Trance
DarthTofu Posted February 4, 2006 Posted February 4, 2006 I can sympathise with them, and am even somewhat supportive of their boycott, for it is a peaceful demonstration both of power and of dispise for what has been done. In hurting the Danish economy they are demonstrating their faith without truly hurting anyone that can't afford to be hurt. Igniting the embacies on the other hand is not the way to go. That's the 'crush the infidels' approach, not a good one to go with. More often than not you wind up with a rocket up your- well, you get the picture. Taking innocent lives is never justified, so I am in favor of the boycott and openly opposed to the arson. 12/14/07Nu kyr'adyc, shi taab'echaaj'la Not gone, merely marching far away
Jahled Posted February 4, 2006 Posted February 4, 2006 I can sympathise with them, and am even somewhat supportive of their boycott, for it is a peaceful demonstration both of power and of dispise for what has been done. In hurting the Danish economy they are demonstrating their faith without truly hurting anyone that can't afford to be hurt. I think they're behaving like childish prats myself. I generally cringe when any faith can't handle a laugh at it's expense. The frequency of Muslim anger at this and that though is getting a bit boring. I can remember in the 80's when they were yelling loudly on British streets for Rushdie, a British citizen, to be murdered in their faith's name because he wrote a book. Pathetic. Sorry guys, if you want to live in Europe you have to adapt to freedom of expression. http://www.jahled.co.uk/smallmonkeywars.gif
DarthTofu Posted February 4, 2006 Posted February 4, 2006 Woah, I am by no means saying that demanding anyone's death or undue pain as a consequence of their actions is a good thing! Far from it! I'm very much a "Your freedom of speach and action ends when your fist encounters my face" person (Yes, that is an actual quote... From who, I forget). I'm just saying that boycotting for revenge is better than saying "THE INFIDELS ARE TRYING TO DENY USHEAVEN! KILL THE INFIDELS! SUICIDE BOMBINGS!! KILL KILL KILL!!!!1" 12/14/07Nu kyr'adyc, shi taab'echaaj'la Not gone, merely marching far away
Jahled Posted February 4, 2006 Posted February 4, 2006 (edited) Woah, I am by no means saying that demanding anyone's death or undue pain as a consequence of their actions is a good thing! Far from it! I'm very much a "Your freedom of speach and action ends when your fist encounters my face" person (Yes, that is an actual quote... From who, I forget). I'm just saying that boycotting for revenge is better than saying "THE INFIDELS ARE TRYING TO DENY USHEAVEN! KILL THE INFIDELS! SUICIDE BOMBINGS!! KILL KILL KILL!!!!1" I thought this was a topical photomash untill I just saw it on the BBC news before the football: http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e253/Jahled/muslims.jpg funny how some muslims have reacted to being portrayed as violent by being violent and threatening to behead Danes etc etc... Edit: host pic myself Edited February 5, 2006 by Jahled http://www.jahled.co.uk/smallmonkeywars.gif
budious Posted February 4, 2006 Posted February 4, 2006 Typical muslim overreaction, any reason to kill infidels is a good reason. "In the future it will become easier for old negatives to become lost and be 'replaced' by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten." - George Lucas, 1988. [u.S. Congressional hearing testimony on film preservation.] My old Rebellion site (very web 1.0) - Bud's Korner and Rebellion Strategy
Mad78 Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 I talked with a muslim friend about what he thought of the whole buisness. He told me that he thought it was all over the top. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Palpycard.gifhttp://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Spamkinguserbarcopy.jpgCLICK HERE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!Click here is you like Trance
budious Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 Yes if only the christians would take a stand against Kanye West for his portral of Jesus on the Rolling Stone cover then we too could have our own excuse for jihad against hip hop. "In the future it will become easier for old negatives to become lost and be 'replaced' by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten." - George Lucas, 1988. [u.S. Congressional hearing testimony on film preservation.] My old Rebellion site (very web 1.0) - Bud's Korner and Rebellion Strategy
DarthTofu Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 Yes if only the christians would take a stand against Kanye West for his portral of Jesus on the Rolling Stone cover then we too could have our own excuse for jihad against hip hop. Reminding me of chef Brian a little bit too much, there, budious... 12/14/07Nu kyr'adyc, shi taab'echaaj'la Not gone, merely marching far away
Defender_16 Posted February 5, 2006 Author Posted February 5, 2006 It seems it's always over the top these days Mad.
Krytos Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 I've got nothing against muslims, or any faith for that mater. However, I think those people in the Middle East, part of these riots are foolish and over reacting.As one person interviewed on the topic said (and this isn't a direct quote) - "we have to put up with anything they say (such as being infildals) or do to or about our beliefs, but we can't do anything about theirs."I'm a firm hater of double standards and just think it's stupid what some of these* people do. http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e253/Jahled/muslims.jpg Ah, I love irony *Once again, this isn't a generalisation - after all, being a muslim doesn't mean you're violent or going to flip out after something bad is said about your religion. http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/1778/reloadedbannerdu8.gifhttp://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1333/3dartistbanneranimationws1.gifhttp://img154.imageshack.us/img154/4026/rebellionbannerdi2.gif
Guest Scathane Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 Good post d_16! I was thinking about posting it myself but obviously, you beat me to it. My view on the matter, then... Well, I must admit that I feel that muslims have the right to be insulted. But I also feel that there are better ways to vent this than the path they are currently embarked on... Seriously, attacking diplomatic connections is hardly ever the way to a solution... Stop it... Rather talk and reason with us... I'm sure we can come to some respectful common ground on this matter. And, in doing I think we should both realize that freedom of speech is paramount, imho.
DarthTofu Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 Oh, yeah, I forgot we had a Dutch member on the forums... 12/14/07Nu kyr'adyc, shi taab'echaaj'la Not gone, merely marching far away
Mad78 Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 I think we should both realize that freedom of speech is paramount, imho.That is something some people sometimes find hard to understand. And even though a community will allow freedom of speech. They can take it very badly that someone go against one of their main laws, even if the person is technically not concerned by them. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Palpycard.gifhttp://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Spamkinguserbarcopy.jpgCLICK HERE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!Click here is you like Trance
Guest Scathane Posted February 7, 2006 Posted February 7, 2006 Well, the point is that, in Europe, you can already sue someone who was insulting to you or a group you belong to. Muslims in Denmark could have done the same thing.
Jahled Posted February 7, 2006 Posted February 7, 2006 (edited) I found this drifting round the internet: http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e253/Jahled/SHEEPEST.jpg Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!! EDIT: oh I forgot, whilst I respect Gary Larson's ability to make me laugh out loud for about a decade, his obvious intention to insult sheep is utterly unforgivable... I DEMAND THIS MAN MUST HAVE HIS LEGS REMOVED IN A SUITABLY HORRIBLE FASHION INVOLVING A BLUNT BREAD KNIFE!! Edited February 8, 2006 by Jahled http://www.jahled.co.uk/smallmonkeywars.gif
DarthTofu Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 ... ... 12/14/07Nu kyr'adyc, shi taab'echaaj'la Not gone, merely marching far away
Jahled Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 ... ... Let's start brainwashing angry young people and see what stuff they get upto. http://www.jahled.co.uk/smallmonkeywars.gif
Defender_16 Posted February 8, 2006 Author Posted February 8, 2006 Wow... Cartoon of Anne Frank in bed with Hitler... Y'know cause things wern't bad enough before.
DarthTofu Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 Wow... Cartoon of Anne Frank in bed with Hitler... Y'know cause things wern't bad enough before. ...I, uh, wait- what in the world are you talking about? I can only interpret this as instructions to break out into song and dance! "SPRING TIME! FOR HITLER! AND GERMANY!" *Runs away as angry mob forms to end the singing* IF I HAD PENUTBUTTER FINGERNAILS I WOULD SCRATCH YOU ALL!!! 12/14/07Nu kyr'adyc, shi taab'echaaj'la Not gone, merely marching far away
Defender_16 Posted February 8, 2006 Author Posted February 8, 2006 Sorry, I forgot some things arn't taught in school. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0553296981/102-3535313-8246543?v=glance&n=283155 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Frank and http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/678639.html ( Hmm... is anyone else starting to get the creeping sensation of a massive Holy war approaching? ) [side note: My grandmother and great-grandmother hid a Jewish family durring the war. German soldiers stormed the farmhouse one day before they could all get back into hiding. The one girl who survived lives in ThunderBay and still writes to my Grandmother. ]
Guest Scathane Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/678639.html Funny, you're the first to point it out to me... ( Hmm... is anyone else starting to get the creeping sensation of a massive Holy war approaching? ) Well, I don't think it's inevitable yet... But I must admit that I can see certain signs that are pointing the wrong way. On both sides...
Mad78 Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 I DEMAND THIS MAN MUST HAVE HIS LEGS REMOVED IN A SUITABLY HORRIBLE FASHION INVOLVING A BLUNT BREAD KNIFE!!i was going to suggest he have his knees sawn off you using an old soup spoon. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Palpycard.gifhttp://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Spamkinguserbarcopy.jpgCLICK HERE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!Click here is you like Trance
Defender_16 Posted February 8, 2006 Author Posted February 8, 2006 http://www.fanzone50.com/faves/AlanR-RobinHood.jpg "Locksley, I'm going to cut your heart out with a spoon!"
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