Trejiuvanat Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 I don't think Thrawn would have given the SSD much use. At least in battle. He would have used it to impress natives, after he had seen through their art, or would have use it for a "garrison" fleet, to free up some Impstars to use in the front. http://www.swrebellion.com/~jahled/Trej/banner.gif
Grand_Admiral_Thrawn Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 Thrawn would have realized that while SSDs have lots of firepower, they are inherantly weak because of thier size. Their size says "HIT ME, I'M EXPENSIVE!". Most commanders throw them into battle, thinking they will single-handedly win it. Thrawn would have used it sparingly, keeping it out of herms way whenever possible. History is on the move, Captain. Those who cannot keep up with it will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all.
Vero Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 What species was/is thrawn? Im buying those books next tuesday when i my paycheck...also how much exactly did he end owning of the galaxy. Zsnij was metioned to have owned at least 1/5th...thrawn maybe 1/2...3/4?
Grand_Admiral_Thrawn Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 When Thrawn returned the New Republic was just starting off (Jacen and Jaina weren't even borne yet) so the Empire still held most of the Galaxy. Also, Thrawn had his secret little empire, The Empire of the Hand, in the Unknown Regions. As for an exact percentage, I can't say. Thrawn is of the Chiss species, who control a large number of systems in the Unkown Regions. Their government is based on houses, or ruling families. I think there are five ruling families, though there are sub-families as well. Each is distinguished by the colouration of its members, and have relatives in every wing of the government, from beurocratic to military. Each family controls ships in the navy, though there is a generic Officer core that commands those ships. History is on the move, Captain. Those who cannot keep up with it will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all.
Trejiuvanat Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 The official Empire at the time of Thrawn's campaign was reduced to a quarter of it's former size, so about a fifth of the galaxy?, the New Republic might have controlled a similar size, and the rest of the world were independent or allied with the other warlords, or part of Thrawn's secret Empire in the Unknown Regions. At the time of his "death", he may have controlled half of the known galaxy. After all Ackbar said that at a time Thrawn was taking about two or three sectors at the week from the Rebellion, and undoubtedly some of the independent worlds must have allied themselves with him. http://www.swrebellion.com/~jahled/Trej/banner.gif
Vero Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 Hmmm how interesting...what books is he in so that i can read this for my self? And is Zsnij in any other books besides the 2-3 xwing books and courtship of leia?
Mad78 Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 Thrawn appears in The Thrawn trilogy 1, 2, 3 and he is the center of the plot in The Hand of Thrawn 1, 2 http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Palpycard.gifhttp://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Spamkinguserbarcopy.jpgCLICK HERE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!Click here is you like Trance
Vero Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 So was znisj a warlord during the empires rule...or did he come to power after the empire faded?
Valliet Posted August 11, 2004 Author Posted August 11, 2004 Zsinj turned rogue just after the battle of Endor shortly after being comissioned his SSD (Iron Fist). I managed to get hold of a copy of 'Wraith Squadron' in which Zsinj makes brief appearances. It isn't the best book for information on Zsinj, but it's a start. It seems to me that he hired old tacticians to make plans for him and he carried them out with his vast resources and fire power. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the Razor's Kiss operation the only plan Zsinj came up with himself? "Uh...Crespin, I'd like to reconsider the terms of my surrender..." -The last heroic words of Admiral Apwar Trigit
Vero Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 So there was more than 1 SSD...why wasnt the others at the battle of endor..u would think they wuld have put them there if the Death Star was under contruction there. How odd.....
Trejiuvanat Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 One SSD, a few dozen Impstars, and the Death Star should have been enough for the Rebel Fleet. http://www.swrebellion.com/~jahled/Trej/banner.gif
BadSamaritan Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 Actually, Zsinj didnt go rogue until after Iceheart lost Coruscant. I once knew a great man. Nothing got to him, and he always smiled. May he forever rest in peace, knowing fully well that his freinds shall remember him.
Trejiuvanat Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 He went Rogue after Endor, but he was considered not more than a nuisance until he bombarded Noquivzor Base out of existence. http://www.swrebellion.com/~jahled/Trej/banner.gif
BadSamaritan Posted August 11, 2004 Posted August 11, 2004 Im pretty sure he didnt go rogue until after coruscant fell. I belive that was what was stated in the x-wing series. But i may be wrong. I once knew a great man. Nothing got to him, and he always smiled. May he forever rest in peace, knowing fully well that his freinds shall remember him.
Vero Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 Looks like ill have to read the first X-wing book after i finish Solo Command. Maybe i could prolly find something.
Valliet Posted August 12, 2004 Author Posted August 12, 2004 I'm afraid Zsinj is not in the first X-Wing book. (Trust me, I've looked) "Uh...Crespin, I'd like to reconsider the terms of my surrender..." -The last heroic words of Admiral Apwar Trigit
Grand_Admiral_Thrawn Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 I didn't think Zsinj cam in until Alliston started writing about Wraith Squadron. I don't think any of his book were actually about Rogue Squadron. History is on the move, Captain. Those who cannot keep up with it will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all.
Valliet Posted August 12, 2004 Author Posted August 12, 2004 (edited) You are correct. Allston's books start off with Rogue Squadron returning from Thyferra and Antilles's immediate formation and transferal to Wraith Squadron. Edited August 24, 2004 by Valliet "Uh...Crespin, I'd like to reconsider the terms of my surrender..." -The last heroic words of Admiral Apwar Trigit
Stellar_Magic Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 Zsinj is mentioned in Wedge's Gamble and the Krytos Trap. The platform over Yag'hdul is under his control. Forum and RPG Membership:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsTC.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsRPG2.jpg Signature:Sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from Magic. -Arthur C. Clarke
Grand_Admiral_Thrawn Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 There is mention of him, but he doesn't become a major player unter Allston starts writing. History is on the move, Captain. Those who cannot keep up with it will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all.
Valliet Posted August 12, 2004 Author Posted August 12, 2004 (edited) Indeed, Zsinj does not appear until Allston carries on the series (and at first Zsinj himself hardly appears, having his subordinates doing all the real work and Zsinj just 'straw bossing'). Zsinj is meant to replace Isard (Stackpole's villain) after her apparent 'death'. Stackpole hated the Zsinj character (that Allston insisted upon) and was pleased he was killed before Stackpole returned to conclude the series, bringing back Isard in the seventh sequel (Book #8 ) Isard's Revenge. Edited August 12, 2004 by Valliet "Uh...Crespin, I'd like to reconsider the terms of my surrender..." -The last heroic words of Admiral Apwar Trigit
Vero Posted August 12, 2004 Posted August 12, 2004 I guess stackpole must have really like issard huh...i wonder why he hated Zsnij so much
Valliet Posted August 13, 2004 Author Posted August 13, 2004 Perhaps 'hate' was too strong a word. Let's change it to 'strong dislike', despite the fact that Zsinj was far more original than Isard. "Uh...Crespin, I'd like to reconsider the terms of my surrender..." -The last heroic words of Admiral Apwar Trigit
BadSamaritan Posted August 13, 2004 Posted August 13, 2004 i wouldnt go so far as to say Zsinj was more original that Isard. I think they were both equal in that regard. Although overall, Iceheart was way cooler. I once knew a great man. Nothing got to him, and he always smiled. May he forever rest in peace, knowing fully well that his freinds shall remember him.
Trejiuvanat Posted August 13, 2004 Posted August 13, 2004 Thing is Stackpole always liked to deal with evil females: Isard, Erisi, Leonia... He probably didn't want to work with Zsinj, as he wanted to focus on the Coruscant-Thyferra story, and Zsinj most likely wouldn't have fitted it. http://www.swrebellion.com/~jahled/Trej/banner.gif
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