Lord_La_forge Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 Whatever you say Hitomi. The Enterprise would simply beam over an atom bomb on the bridge of that star destroyer. End. Soltaris! Your avatar is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cain Posted May 7, 2004 Author Share Posted May 7, 2004 ...hmmmm...I'm starting to favor Hitomi with his arguments....he has a point ' PS....the link for a costum avatar can only be edited in the forum up /profile option then look down.....try it dudes - The Trivium Organization - Community Manager -- Petroglyph Fan Forums - CoAdmin & Human Resources Manager - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cain Posted May 7, 2004 Author Share Posted May 7, 2004 stupid laptop...sorry for the second post I can delet it btw I think that teleportation is impossible ...... more impossible than useing stargates.... - The Trivium Organization - Community Manager -- Petroglyph Fan Forums - CoAdmin & Human Resources Manager - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisMiggell Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 Stargates are theoretically possible... kinda... they wouldn't be like what we see in Stargate SG-1, but they could do the same thing.... without the blue ripply effect. Elvismiggell. Strike me down and i will become more powerful than you can ever imagine... Nu kyr'adyc, shi taab'echaaj'la Not gone, merely marching far away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar_Magic Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 Yes, Proton torpedoes are really effective in space, why because they cause a massive amount of energy to be directed at a small point, a shaped charge of protons. They explode at a much slower rate then a concussion missile limiting any shockwave, thats why concussion missiles are more effective in atmosphere. So the explosive properties of proton torpedo are more destructive but burn slower while the concussion missile is the opposite. If a concussion missile impacts a target there isn't the compression wave in space, only the small explosive charge of the weapon. 23%-1/4th is that really that big of a difference? It also wouldn't matter what armor a star destroyer has, a photon torpedo disperses a blast of antimatter that destroys everything within the blast radius at an even rate. Not even the moleculary bonded armor of the Sun Crusher would stand up against that amount of firepower. The only thing close to the way in which a Photon torpedo works in Star Wars is the harmonic resonance torpedo of a Sun Crusher except the blast of energy for a photon is an explosion of antimatter and not this rolling ball that destroys everything in its path. Actually they're like a six foot long thermal detonator, quite a bang for the buck especially once you add antimatter into that thermal. In actually science though a walnut sized piece of antimatter could destroy a SSD, but this is Trekkie science we're talking about now. I know there are errors in the X-wing series of books, especially in the wraith squadron series, since when does an ISD have repulsorlifts? But my claim for concussion missiles is backed up by some things in the films, for example in Episode I (yeah I know dumb episode I) in the final ground battle you see trade federation ATTs firing concussion missiles. Jar Jar Binks is almost killed (Oh if only it had been a proton torpedo) when a cavalryman that offers him a lift is shot by a concussion missile. Also in episode 2 the roller tanks that the seperatists use are armed with a form of concussion missile. Yes it can kill walkers but against capital starships, no way. Interesting theory with the Turbolasers by the way, I hadn't heard that one before. I always thought of them as great big bolts of blaster gas that used a laser in the exciter and heated the gases to even greater amounts of heat. The reason the cube was intact afterwards was that it repaired itself....pretty fast for a cube at any rate. And the cube would have addapted somehow to the federation advancements, maybe an outer layer of antiprotons to stop the energy wave from the torpedoes, it would be my solution Actually Teleportation, Stargates/Wormholes, and antimatter have all been proven possible by mathematicians, of course you prove SW exists with mathematics if you tried. Now that you've mentioned Stargates I'll let you guys in on a little secret, I'm finishing the polishing draft on a novel called Stellar Magic: The Merlin Academy. I've used wormholes, pulse cannons, torpedoes, antimatter, solar sails, and even mythology maybe I should make a TC from it Forum and RPG Membership:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsTC.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsRPG2.jpg Signature:Sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from Magic. -Arthur C. Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitomi Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Federation transporters have shown an inability to transport through the shielding of other vessels, and I would see no reason to assume they could simply go through Wars shields. The weapon’s fired by the ATT Tanks in TPM were not Concussion Missiles, indeed they seemed like large blaster bolts to me, the weapons fired by the Millennium Falcon in the second Death Star were Concussion Missiles however. The Tanks used by the Separatists did not fire Concussion Missiles and neither did the Republic Gunships. They fires some sort of never seen before missile weapon that was comparable to modern day explosives. The most powerful weapons deployed in the ground battle were the Heavy Cannons used to bring down the Federation ship. Photon Torpedoes do not send a blast of antimatter at their target. They use 1.5 kg of Antimatter to react with 1.5 kg of Matter to create an explosion, which spreads thermal energy in every direction. Like most other weapons the Photons do their damage by melting and then vaporizing the armor of an enemy vessel. Besides, if the torpedoes did indeed spread the antimatter towards a target it would react with less than 750 grams of hull material, hardly a threat to a Star Destroyer. The Sun Crusher survived a glancing blow from the Death Star’s prototype super laser, and was considered impervious to fire by Admiral Daala’s Star Destroyer’s. The Sun Crusher also survived weeks at the center of a gas giant with no apparent damage whatsoever. It would take a direct hit from a Death Star Super Laser to take out the Sun Crusher, or you could simply throw it down a black hole. J The Cube situation is another example of the Visuals versus Dialog argument. Data stated that 23% of the Cube had been destroyed when the visuals established that over 90% of the Cube was still intact, directly after the attack. We can only reconcile the quote by Data by assuming the damage was internal and possibly spread to the “back” of the cube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scathane Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Well, I guess the results of this poll are pretty obvious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahled Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Yes indeediness Scathiness! They confirm that Star Wars is much more Woo! than Star Trek... Who remembers that woman who turned up to do jury service in a federation uniform? I'm not even going to start trying to imagine one of us turning up at court dressed as an Imperial officer or Mon Mothma... http://www.jahled.co.uk/smallmonkeywars.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_La_forge Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 I think, flying Penguins are even more cooler, than Star Wars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisMiggell Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Can you imagine if i turned up in a suit... wearing my Darth Vader helmet. Elvismiggell. Strike me down and i will become more powerful than you can ever imagine... Nu kyr'adyc, shi taab'echaaj'la Not gone, merely marching far away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trejiuvanat Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 From you I would expect it! You're the Intergalactic Lawyer/Emperor... http://www.swrebellion.com/~jahled/Trej/banner.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisMiggell Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 What else was it i taught at the academy? Astronavigation? Elvismiggell. Strike me down and i will become more powerful than you can ever imagine... Nu kyr'adyc, shi taab'echaaj'la Not gone, merely marching far away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trejiuvanat Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 I think so, yes... All you need for creating your own Imperial mobil courthouse. Today: Balmorra Next Week: Carida http://www.swrebellion.com/~jahled/Trej/banner.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisMiggell Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 And here it is... in all it's rather small glory... modelled by yours truly!!! Click here!!! Elvismiggell. Strike me down and i will become more powerful than you can ever imagine... Nu kyr'adyc, shi taab'echaaj'la Not gone, merely marching far away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scathane Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Was it a modelling kit or did it sprang from your own creativity, Mike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisMiggell Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Neither... you can buy DarthVader helmets.... they made them for a while... i got mine from a local comic store. Elvismiggell. Strike me down and i will become more powerful than you can ever imagine... Nu kyr'adyc, shi taab'echaaj'la Not gone, merely marching far away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cain Posted May 11, 2004 Author Share Posted May 11, 2004 (edited) SWRebellion Moderators http://www.starwars.com/community/captions/2001/12/img/caption25.jpg To be edited if I have requests ! Edited May 11, 2004 by Cain - The Trivium Organization - Community Manager -- Petroglyph Fan Forums - CoAdmin & Human Resources Manager - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisMiggell Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Hell no!!! No editing i say!!! Let them cower in fear at our true forms!!! Elvismiggell. Strike me down and i will become more powerful than you can ever imagine... Nu kyr'adyc, shi taab'echaaj'la Not gone, merely marching far away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cain Posted May 11, 2004 Author Share Posted May 11, 2004 The SWR Moderators at their Real Work Place http://www.starwars.com/community/captions/2003/04/img/caption94.jpg ...Hey ! But they can do miracles on SWR http://www.starwars.com/community/captions/2003/04/img/caption93.jpg - The Trivium Organization - Community Manager -- Petroglyph Fan Forums - CoAdmin & Human Resources Manager - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad78 Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Back to the sw vs st debat,there is one thing that hasen't been talked about is the construction cost and autonomy of the ships. Personnally stopped watching Star Trek when I discovered Star Wars so I can not be qualified as an expert but I believe that an isd is a pretty costly ship but I can not compare because I have absolutely no idea of how much a galaxy class ship would cost to build. This may be a subject to talk about.Secondly, I know that a isd is capable of surviving a very long time alone (example: admiral Daala and her fleet) but I also know that by an unknown method galaxy ships are capable of "generating" food from thin air and water from air. Could someone you knows a bit more about st ships please deepen these questions. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Palpycard.gifhttp://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/Mad78/Spamkinguserbarcopy.jpgCLICK HERE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!Click here is you like Trance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisMiggell Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Ahhhh, good old science fiction physics, gotta love it!!! Elvismiggell. Strike me down and i will become more powerful than you can ever imagine... Nu kyr'adyc, shi taab'echaaj'la Not gone, merely marching far away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitomi Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 The Second Death Star was built in 3 years, and scaled to 900 km in Diameter. Its cinstruction was undertaken in secret, and did not noticeably impact the Imperial economy. You could build more than 1E12 Star Destroyers for that Death Star, that's over 40, million times the strength of the 25,000 Destroyer strong Imperial Navy. Comparatively Star Destroyers are really inexpensive. More later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scathane Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Brilliant posts, Cain... Just brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar_Magic Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Kick myself I forgot I'd seen those before...on the force.net I think. Cool posts though. With construction costs you've got to remember the empire has a whole galaxy of resources while the federation has maybe a tenth of a galaxy at the most. Probably more like a thirtieth but hey who knows? The empire has so much resources they literally gave away two hundred Victory Star Destroyers to planetary governors. Citing the Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels. You have to wonder just how many ships the rebels have. There probably have to be millions of Corellian Corvettes and only the force knows how many TIEs. Forum and RPG Membership:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsTC.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsRPG2.jpg Signature:Sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from Magic. -Arthur C. Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisMiggell Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Oh a few gillion i should think. Elvismiggell. Strike me down and i will become more powerful than you can ever imagine... Nu kyr'adyc, shi taab'echaaj'la Not gone, merely marching far away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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