not quite stealing.. i gave you the credit ... plus.. i was hoping since it was this post the revived the thread almost five months ago now.. it would revive it once more... maybe? .. eh? ... (i believe thats the correct acronym..)

You might have given me verbal credit, but what I would really like is the "post count credit"; know what I mean

ahhhh... then get posting you old timer (perhaps one will qualify my response as spam... but it needed a response.. and im about to be out probably all weekend... hehehe )

ahhhh... then get posting you old timer (perhaps one will qualify my response as spam... but it needed a response.. and im about to be out probably all weekend... hehehe )

Nice to know your post count per day has dropped to 15 from the previous 25 I'll re-post my old posts, when I feel like searching for posts worthy of posting ... or when I find the time

I remember that invisibility thing. Was interessting... I want a cloak like Harry Potter!

I remember that invisibility thing. Was interessting... I want a cloak like Harry Potter!

 

Me too!

And a hippogriff

 

Wow you guys think they could put this invisibility thing on larger objects?

Imagine an invisible radar-jamming plane, talk about an invincible military contraption...

The fact that you can't detect it. Heat sensors would surely be able to detect such a plane.

Mad is correct. One could likely also triangulate the source of the jaming and then start launching heat-seakers at it. Bye-bye cloaked jammer.

Oh... right... uhm, didn't think about that

That's OK, Dane. We won't hold it against you.

There is always a flaw the only variable is how evident it is.

Not so, Mad. It could be argued that how blind the designer/user are to the flaw is another variable.

Stealth aircraft use heat dispersal methods to reduce their IR signature. Why couldn't that work here?

Stealth aircraft use heat dispersal methods to reduce their IR signature. Why couldn't that work here?

Should work just fine. Also, one must take into account the "type" of engine being used. A high bypass engine mixes in more atomspheric air with the exhaust to "cool down" the exhaust temperature. Besides, the IR signature is just another wave-length of light, so depending on what wave lengths the "invisibility cloak" is designed to conceal, IR might be surpressed as well

But I guess the ennemi would finish by coming up with a counter... They always do!

yea... they would come up with it by buying a game made here in the U.S. that is sold over there either illegally or legally.. doesnt really matter... but what does matter is that it would have the complete specifications of the weapon or defense.. including how it works... (trust me.. sounds dumb.. but it used to happen all the time.. thats how enemy forces would get specs on different U.S. missiles, planes and other military weapons)..

Sorry for the double post here... just trying to breathe some life into this thread... it really was one of my favs... heres something pretty cool i found..

 

YAY! no more digging!

yea... they would come up with it by buying a game made here in the U.S. that is sold over there either illegally or legally.. doesnt really matter...

What "game" are you talking about? And how is that related to countering new techology?

Nifty stuff there JH.

yea... they would come up with it by buying a game made here in the U.S. that is sold over there either illegally or legally.. doesnt really matter...

What "game" are you talking about? And how is that related to countering new techology?

 

Well... ok.. first.. its a hypothetical... based on this:

Back in the day.. and even possibly still going on today... the U.S. would have realistic video games made based on our military technology.. such as a Jane's Combat Simulation type games (F-15, Longbow, etc.) and enemies of the U.S. would actually buy this game and use it as a reference since it had detailed schematics and specifications on our missiles, aircraft, etc. So the enemy now knew thanks to this game that if they had a base 8 miles inland that an allied ship couldnt just launch a tomahawk missile at them as they were now out of range of the weapon. Of course this is supposing that the game didnt have "misinformation" on it... or old data. But, this is what once happened in this world.. and is possibly still going on today... just because its sold only in the U.S. doesnt mean some person is not going to come here buy it, then take it back to.. oh.. North Korea lets say.. and give it to their officials or whatever... so yea.. thats all i was sayin... whew!..

I got the game T.A.W. Total Air War for Christmass one year. (I did NOT ask for it.) In it you can fly the F-22... and only the F-22. There was litterally every combat aircraft in use in the world durring the 1990's in this game. Could you fly any of them? No.

 

Did the F-22 have any Stealth characteristics in the game? No. (Though the range at which you could be detected was half that of other enemies. )

 

Did the thrust vectoring do anything? No.

 

Could you switch back to missiles after using guns for a bit? Heck no. (Jeez, I couldnt even figure out how to lock-on half the time.)

 

Could the fighter in the game take on anywhere near the number of 4th Gen aircraft that the real one could? Not a chance.

 

There's an example of classified information at work for ya. lol

 

 

 

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Um, JH. Just wondering, but what's with all of the "..." 's lately?

I'll change the topic a little here - away from firepower

 

Reminds me of something from Star Wars on Tatooine ...

http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/06/212252&from=rss

 

And, here's innovation for you

http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/05/0311218&from=rss

Very interessting stuff Kryt. The first ne sounds like something out of Star Trek.

wow... that stuff is pretty cool... and that machine that creates water talk about further applications.. like.. missions to mars...

Yeah, I thought those were quiet cool too.

 

Very interessting stuff Kryt. The first ne sounds like something out of Star Trek.

Actually, I was thiking of moister farmers or whatever they are

 

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Another type of TV to hit the markets?

There shall be some very expensive TVx who are going to come out then.