March 2, 200620 yr Have yet to read all 4 pages but will do after my two pennies worth. Enthusiastic nOOb here. EU can be great but it's not full prove. Meaning unless it's mentioned in the films theories on the Empire can only be speculated. Although we get the picture that they can be ruthless if needs be. Is the Empire/Palps anti-alien? No. Maul for a start, the CIS, his political aides, bounty hunters, spies ect ect This proves that the empire couldn’t a be strictly human sect. As regards about the Jedi and controlling the galaxy: think of it like this, the Jedi are the far left while the sith are the far right. The Jedi don't wish to control the galaxy, mealy keep the peace within it. The sith also want peace but it differs to the ideas of the Jedi. They believe only one or two should be in charge as it cuts out debates and disagreements with others. Similar to a King or be it an Emperor. The sith believe that only strictness will keep the galaxy in line, while the Jedi believe in a much more open minded view democratic way. Palps uses those to carry out what he feels must be done. The individual doesn't exist. Only the state/empire. If he was to teach others of his ways then they would become a threat to him. He has to make himself out to be the single most inportant person (the only?) who can control the galaxy. This is why no one is second in line to him. http://www.swrebellion.com/images/banner_be.gif
March 3, 200620 yr SWR Staff - Executive The Empire was anti-alien. It's policies deliberately set aliens as second-rate citizens. There were things like alien exclusion acts, alien interment camps, and outright slavery. Palpatine himself wasn't anti-alien. But he used this to prop up his Empire by making aliens the enemy. He essentially created the CIS to be all aliens, so he could start the war against them. The Senate became human dominated, the military was exclusively human. Few ever reached high ranks.. those like Thrawn were promoted by Palpatine's word. If you've read Revenge of the Sith, the novel, this is exactly what he promises Count Dooku... a human-run galaxy. Ultimately he believes that is what would give the galaxy order... unfortunately he believed that Sidious intended to give him leadership in this human Empire, wasn't to be the case. Evaders99http://swrebellion.com/images/banners/rebellionbanner02or6.gif Webmasterhttp://swrebellion.com/images/banners/swcicuserbar.png Administrator Fighting is terrible, but not as terrible as losing the will to fight.- SW:Rebellion Network - Evaders Squadron Coding -The cake is a lie.
March 3, 200620 yr Moreover, I think it's taking it a bit far to say that the ultimate goal of the sith is peace... Welcome to our community HerrGeneral...
March 3, 200620 yr I am yet to read the novel, although I have heard good things about it. But, this is EU after all and if not mentioned in any films or by Lucas it is debatable. However, I don't doubt their was anti-alien personnel in the empire's service. As for Palps wanting peace, I believe so. Only his version of it. For example, take Hitler (whom I believe Palps and his Empire/Reich is based upon, the similarities are scary!) when he came to power he wanted peace and order. However, this was at the cost of discriminating against those who he saw as the enemy: Jews, Gypsies, Homosexuals ect. http://www.swrebellion.com/images/banner_be.gif
March 3, 200620 yr With regard to the racial issue, my lack of knowledge prevents me from arguing any further. Wikipedia has a nice entry on it, though... On to the peace argument, then... I don't think that Palpatine sought any balance whatsoever, I think he was rather pursuing ultimate power, dominance and control from a purely egotistical motivation...
March 3, 200620 yr Author If we go by that like of canon, then I believe the G-Canon Empire (thats just the movies, right?) isnt anti-alien. HerrGeneral makes some good points about that. Sure the novelization has Palpatine promising Dooku a human-run galaxy, but the novelization and the movie have different events in them: Windu letting the lightning harmlessly course through him in the book vs. blocking it with his saber in the movie. The evidence from the movies doesn't suggest a human empire. The EU, however, has a lot of stuff about it. I tend to include the EU in my view of star wars because I love SotE and Dark Empire, but these books weren't produced by Lucas. Thats why they have good writing. Count Dooku is the strongest Star Wars character as depicted in the movies. All hail Christopher Lee.
March 3, 200620 yr I like most EU. The Republic and Empire Series by Dark Horse Comics I count as cannon. I have no real problem with EU, Only when it contradicts the films, or is way to far stretched.....even for Star Wars. http://www.swrebellion.com/images/banner_be.gif
March 3, 200620 yr Author I go with the whole Parallel universe idea. The movies are one thing, and the EU has the events in the movies, and then some. I'm just sad that Bevel Lemelisk isn't deemed worthy to have designed the Death Star. That honor goes to some grasshoppers. Count Dooku is the strongest Star Wars character as depicted in the movies. All hail Christopher Lee.
March 27, 200620 yr YES i was extremely disapointed when they credited the death star to the Geonosians... But i just wanted to make refrence to Palpy promising an anti-alien empire to count dooku... In Zahns Vision of the Future i beleive it was either Voss Parck or Mara Jade spoke of the fact that Palpy would promise his subordinates what they wanted in order to blind them to his own ambitions i.e. He promised Thrawn: an empire of stability... Vader: power.... - But it was so artfully done..,
March 28, 200620 yr YES i was extremely disapointed when they credited the death star to the Geonosians... But i just wanted to make refrence to Palpy promising an anti-alien empire to count dooku... In Zahns Vision of the Future i beleive it was either Voss Parck or Mara Jade spoke of the fact that Palpy would promise his subordinates what they wanted in order to blind them to his own ambitions i.e. He promised Thrawn: an empire of stability... Vader: power.... This is believable. http://www.swrebellion.com/images/banner_be.gif
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