The possibility is that Dooku who under the name of Tyranus was was ordered to find the right model while Sidious passed theorder say he nwas Sifo-Dias.

But how come, then, that both Yoda and Obi-Wan seem to have been familiar with Syfo-Dias?

The Syfo-Dias was a real person, a real Jedi everyone knew him, then he died under circumstances unknown.

 

Dooku & Palpatine took advantage of the situation and usurped the dead Jedi's identity to place the order. Jango, we know, met Tyranus and had him become the templet. Dooku was obeying Palpatine's orders at the time, so that within ten years of the Naboo thing, Palpatine had his grand army ready when he needed it.

Yes but before they recruited Jango he was to complet a very hard assignement which was to kill a dark jedi.

Yes but before they recruited Jango he was to complet a very hard assignement which was to kill a dark jedi.

 

Where did you get that from?

Its the plot for the game "Bounty Hunter".

But all of us know that Qui-Gon would buck the system, Qui-Gon knew that there was going to be a war of some kind, so he ordered the troops from La-Ma-Su.

Its the plot for the game "Bounty Hunter".

 

Games are considered canon, other wise Coruscant actually would be in the Sesswenna sector...

 

As for Qui-Gon I don't see him ordering the clones, as much as he broke with the system, he wouldn't have done such a thing, he was a JEdi after all.

I also dont think it was Qui Gon that could have done that. He is a Jedi, a very faithful one at that. I was under the impression that Dooku ordered them under the guise of Syfo Dias.

I also dont think it was Qui Gon that could have done that. He is a Jedi, a very faithful one at that. I was under the impression that Dooku ordered them under the guise of Syfo Dias.

Someone ordering them under the guise of Syfo-Dias to me seems the most credible explanation so far...

Qui-Gon was an uncommon kind of Jedi but he still stuck to their ideals. The second possibility is the most probable.

Yeah, the theory that Sidious did it makes a lot of sense. Hopefully Episode III will clear it all up.

Why would Qui-Gon order an army?

Exactly, it would have been a stupid move on Qui Gon's part. Hes a smart guy, he would have known that drafting (so to speak) that army would have lead to war, I gaurentee he didnt want that.

Second remarque. Where would he get the money? For all I know growing an entire army of clones doesn't cost nothing add to that the fact that he would also had to pay for the construction of an ship armada. Unless he secretly owned a few sectors I don't see how he could have done it.

Well, it is possible that the afreement was that payment would be recieved upon inspection and agreement that the clone army was up-to-par with what they were buying. Since it would cost more than is humanly possible to imagine, you'd want to be sure you were getting what you payed for.

That's true, but then how would Yoda pay for it? He's one of the greatest Jedi, but I don't think they get payed that large a salary...

Technically I believe all jedi activities would be financed by the Republic. In exchange the jedi would protect and maintain peace.

I'm glad this forum is popular!

 

Would the jedi be 'financed' by the Republic or would it be more like if they needed something, the Republic would supply it? I didn't think they'd really need or use money much.

They probably have investments in whatever passes for a stock market. I don't think they could have such a grandiose temple, but not use money.

Still, it would be suspicious to see Qui Gon withdraw X amount of money for no apparent reason. The amount of money required for something liek that would be huge.

And also, he would have to clear it with the Jedi Council before taking out Jedi money to spend on an army, surely they would have caught wind of the idea and stopped it.

I'm sure the Jedi had investments but I agree that Qui-Gon would have had considerable trouble withdrawing large amounts from them... Then again, the real Syfo-Dias wouldn't probably have been able to go about this unnoticed either...

Unless he had said amount of money previously saved, or he was financed by outsiders (trade federation, techno union, etc..)

Or he laundered money from the Republic through his oen cunning or Palpatine.

He would have to have either scammed money off of the Republic or potentially used other means of paying for the army- like force or threats! I just want to know, did the real Syfo-dias make the order for the army?

The Jedi know everything about withdrawing money...

 

Master Yoda walks into the Headquarters of the Intergalactic Banking clan.

BANKER: What can we do for you in this wonderful morning?

YODA: Tranfer money to my account, you will.

BANKER. Transfer money to my account, I will.

YODA: 1-00930-1231-54220.

BANKER: 1-00930-1231-54220.

YODA: How much should you transfer?

BANKER: How much should I transfer?

YODA: Transfer half the Republic's education budget.

BANKER: I will transfer half the Republic's education budget.

YODA: And Dooku's accounts you will freeze.

BANKER: And I will freeze Dooku's accounts.

YODA: Good afternoon. Have a nice day.

BANKER: Good afternoon. Have a nice day.

 

I don't think the real Sifo-Dyas had anything to do with it, I think it was Dooku with funds from his separatist group that ordered the clones, after all Dooku did not care if they won or were defeated at Geonosis, all he was interested was in starting a war.

Nice one Trej!

 

But at what point did Dooku come under Sidious's power/influence? And how could he order the army and the Geonosians think it was Syfo?