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hay, like I said, it has to be a flaw in imperial command. maybe the imperial officers didnt think they needed any more troops since there was however many people could fit on a shuttle

I dont know if it counts as landing but Lusankya was grounded on Imperial City. It took off but still it didnt land it was built there.

YAY I get help defending the rebels. If I did not mention it before. When they start planning the attack on the shield generator it is night. so the rebels had all night + however long it was from night to the ground battle.

Thats Right Ok boy dont write nonsense here there is no PC 1066/800 RAM available on this planet today. maybe u mean RAMBUS 800 but thats Pentium boards only and no guy uses a P. for gaming just AMDs. And DDR 400/333 is just supported by a few AMD Boards. What the heck is 1 GHz of RAM and a 533MHz system bus ?? maybe u mean the Front Side Bus and the best is 400 And the main Question isnt answered "What needs 1GByte RAM?" Maybe a Server Ah, hes not the one talking nonsense I do agree though(only on this point) RDRAM is the only ram that I found that would run at 1066 and 800. Y wouldnt anyone use a P4 for gaming, the fastest P4 chips are faster than the fastest AMD chips. PS he said he had a P4 What the hell do you mean 400 is the fastest FSB check out some specs, intel has a line of cpu's that run at 800 mhz, 533 is fairly common. y not have a GB of ram, ram is cheap. to my specs the one im using 800mhz P3 512 megs RAM Radeon AIW 32 MB DDR 40+20GB Hard disks + A BUNCH of extra stuff new machene, runs but under construction yet. P4 2.8 256 MB DDR (going to be 512 or 1 GB depending) 120GB Maxtor TNT Riva 2 32or64MB (going to be dual with Radeon 9700(or 9800) and a Radeon 9100 PCI)

Thats making me curious, how did your corvette get damaged? Weve all had bad experiences with AI but that is like AI had a stroke.

People in the US sue for everything, not too long ago we had a filing against fast food places because it made the people fat. I dont remember the exact details (it was a few months ago) but it never did get to court.

After watching RotJ... like I said before, it all had to be a flaw in the imperial tactical side of things on the forest moon, there was not a full legion shown on the film, i didnt count but it looks to me like 50-100. so in that case A. the imperial officers had the troops stationed elsewhere than where the fighting was B. the emperor was bluffing trying to make luke angry at the loss of his friends. of earlier when i said the imperials knew the rebels where on the lambda when they are clearing the code, vader says "leave them to me" than soon after vader is talking to the emperor and vader says "Der be rebels on the moon!!!"(well, it means the same as that) and the emperor says "i know" the fleet, maybe all the fighters were not deployed. im thinking that the imperial fleet was going easy on the rebels to let the death star pick them off, and when the death star is destroyed they are shocked and flee. however there is no way to confirm this since you dont see the whole battle or after the DS is destroyed

The problem were having is that the movie skips a lot. In my last post i was gigving possabilities of what could have happened. (thats why there were a lot of maybes) And im not saying the rebels should have won. Im trying to find out how they did (how could we have an argument with only one side?) The only thing that made the rebels win is some sort of confusion on the imperials part. Whick we cant clarify because we didnt see what happened. Who said what we dont know but something had to happen. On the ground. Did the emperor say the troops were on the moon or in the shield building? just curious. I guess ill see when i watch it again. Almost nuclear explosion! well ill get back with all that after i watch it again.

Sorry about the battalion-battlegroup mixup i was reading fast. I havent watched the movie again yet since i was away from home on work for 2 days, i dont have much time so ill finish reading your posts later.

If you think about it there are still a lot of star wars toys selling and the movie came out 20 years ago. that shows a lot about how dedicated the star wars fan base is and how the movies relate to multiple generations.

Good point about the traps on the ground, where did all those logs come from, did they chop them down right outside the base or did they carry them in, maybe they had lukes help and he used the force to make the traps, before he left for the DS that is. sorry bout my last post igorimp, i got a little wordy, i had a bad day and was a little ticked from RL events. On the SSD the shields were out because of a weakness, the two shield generators were taken out, this was shown on the movie i am sure of. And the A Wing crashing into the bridge, it's Murpheys Law, anything that can go wrong will. and it was convinient for lucas but it could happen. on the ISD's i will watch the movie and skim the Thrawn books again I dont know how stupid the imps are but the ones that talk in the movies and such seem pretty stupid, non officers that is. Again im to watch the movie. I think of myself as pretty good at fighting, i never take a hit without taking a swing back. Yes it isnt realistic the death star could fire every 10 seconds, that is why my point was that we couldnt use it to show how long the battle was, i mean if it was firing at 1/24th power couldnt it fire 24 times before firing, also it was not complete so maybe it did have problems with the laser since it was the first time firing, we have stuff come out of factories malfunctioning all the time. I couldnt try taking out a SD for real since SW is not real. the closest thing we got to flying in SW is the lucasarts games. because the fighters had the potensial to be there doesnt mean they were all fighting, the death star was not completed, maybe they were not all launched since the imperials were 100% confident they were going to win, the rebels had shields... they were still outnumbered but we dont know the exact numbers. scathane mase a good ppoint about ackbars orders, they were at point blank so if the death star fired it had the potensial of hitting its own ship and if it didnt the blast from the exploding ship would probably damage the Star destroyers ad they were so confident that they were going to win they didnt risk it. i agree some of the star destroyers were being attacked but the rebels were around the SSD and all the SD's were meant to keep them from escaping so they couldnt of all been in firing range, if they were the rebels almost could have went around them and escaped into hyperspace, the sd's were meant as a picket. Again on endor i think lucas did screw up because there wasnt close to a legeon out in battle. also if there is that many troops it doesnt mean they are all close to the battle they could be all over the moon searching for the team of rebels. They could have left a minimal defense at the shield generator. They knew the rebels were on the lambda, they let them down and they were going to ambush them on the ground(at least that is what i remember) ill get back to you on that after i watch it again. Another thought, from what ive seen possably the stormtroopers were offensive soldiers and were not suited that well to defensive tactics also they probably didnt think anything of the ewoks right away and that when the battle started it turned into chaos where the troops were tied up being annoyed by the ewoks to all fight the rebel troops making them easier targets for those with blasters according to starwars.com a legion is 820 men so if some are out on endor some need to stay in the complex plus anything else they would need to do, that makes it a lot more realistic than igorimps 10000.

I know theres a quote button, i just copied and pasted it all at once, i wasnt completely serious, i just find it kind of funny that evaders tells us something and we pay no mind see im even way off topic.

I just came back to this site after awwile of being inactive and missed the heavy stuff in this thread First The Casualties mentioned by Igorimp The Death Star was destroyed by a weakness, not by force The SSD was lost when an Awing crashed into the bridge, causing it to crash into the death star. The ISD's, If i remember right they fled when the death star was destroyed, they were probably shocked since their belief was that the death star was indestructable. The emperor died at the hands of vader vader died doing so the rest died from the ships being destroyed, NOT to any direct troop assault by the rebels so they are included in the ship tally. Second The ISD's WERE NOT PART OF THE ATTACKING IMPERIAL FLEET. they were ordered to hold fire and were never told (to my knowledge) that they were allowed to fire, the might as well have not been there. a few fought when the DS was destroyed but most ran. Third Igorimp, where are these technical manuals.. also your math is very elementary, first the day would probably coruscant standard, 16 or 18 i cant remember(more than 10 less than 20) second if you know about phisics and geometry you can get a little closer. the home one(the largest ship the rebels had) was 3200 meters long the 1 hr diameter you gave was 166 times bigger and that was a solid sphere which is also incorrect. you have to use volume not diameter you learn that in basic high school geometry using the formula (4/3)pi*r(cubed) the volume of the earth is 1086230340743.04 divided by 24 to get the 1 hr charge is 45259597530.96 and take the formula in reverse ad the diameter of a sphere that could be destroyed after i 1 hr recharge is about 2211 km the home one is 3.2 km lets take it 60 times down so well be in minutes 564 km lets do it again 144 km which is much much much larger than the home one (if it was a solid sphere) the home one is smaller than that so the death star would be able to fire in fractions of seconds and that would not take much power away from the banks so it would not even need to recharge. so the death star possably had cooling issues but can NOT be used as a measure of time. my next argument. igorimp, again your ant and the hammer thing, i already stated this, the isd's were ordered not to fire and when the DS was destroyed most fled the battle. that last one wasnt much but i did not agree at ALL with his post. and in his next post, what do the shield generators have to do with torpedoes, i agree that there arent ant torps but they can be easily taken out with lasers. if you can not take out an ISD using an x wing, b wing, y wing, or a wing in any of the XWA, XVT, TIE, or X wing games you are a poor excuse for a pilot. i agree with the ai being worse than the real thing but it doesn not take away the weaknesses of the star destroyers, that werent totally in the battle mind you, there are also more rebel pilots who are also better. your shield type speech even if true does not matter with the outcome of the battle I have to switch my attansion to Ragnar for a second this is the definition of Science Fiction, you tell me where star wars doesnt fit. science fiction n. A literary or cinematic genre in which fantasy, typically based on speculative scientific discoveries or developments, environmental changes, space travel, or life on other planets, forms part of the plot or background. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- science-fiction (sns-fkshn) adj. Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. [buy it] Science Fiction n : literary fantasy involving the imagined impact of science on society Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University Since i read this it died down but i need to get my say in, besides typing this made me miss tom green. Igorimp, I just believe that you started an argument and started to lose so started to talk bull sh** thechnical crap that didnt apply to make the people think you are smarter than your comments show, swaying them from when you are wrong. i like a good debate but get your facts straight before you ramble off numbers. by the way your not a half bad debater you made me miss tom green that is a feat not to be taken lightly.

Jahled Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 8:55 am Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For some reason I went through a phase of buying loads of Star Wars action figures a couple of years ago, the later ones with those rectangler chips you can stand them up on (darr...think about that in the 70s they should of...) that SPEAK! Yes apparently they say something if you also have the seperately purchased spend even more money gadgit toy. Wow! Well, the Star Wars Kid's would have a various collection of 'Wooshes,' I guess, Zoot; well that's either a feline 'All humans are fools,' or the sound of an atomic explosion.... Zoot's easerly-looserble additional piece of plastic-cum-gun, would have to be a can of Fosters as you say Trej.... An altogether extremely wierd concept. BTW: Am I alone in thinking that George Lucas and his dork-side adepts made a seperate costume for Natalie Portman's character in virtually every different scene in TPM and AOTC in order to seriously exploit the movie spin off market such as HASBRO bendy action figures? Just a thought. Trejiuvanat Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 9:04 am Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jahled wrote: BTW: Am I alone in thinking that George Lucas and his dork-side adepts made a seperate costume for Natalie Portman's character in virtually every different scene in TPM and AOTC in order to seriously exploit the movie spin off market such as HASBRO bendy action figures? Just a thought. I think just like you, Jahled. Did you know that with all the income from the Hasbro products GL was able to pay what he had spent in making ep I. Jahled Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 9:31 am Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HOLY BAKED BEANS ON TOAST FUELED INSANE GIBBONS IN A STOLEN CAR IN A JUNGLE FIENDISH MADNESS THAT WOULD SERIOUSLY DO YOUR HEAD IN IF YOU HAPPENED TO STUMBLE QUITE INNOCENTLY ACROSS IT ON A HOLIDAY IN AN AFRICAN JUNGLE, err.... type of thing... Is that for real Trej? That is absolutely unbelievable. I'm not entirely certain how to approach that one...tired as I am... ...I guess our gibbon friends will do... I think that is what Evaders meant about staying on topic...

I dont think there is anything that we need to attract people of other platforms. I think we should have other sections for other games and it could be user submitted stuff. one of the things i like about this site, possably the only thing is the forums where i can talk to people with the same interests and ideals, well sometimes. if we added another area for games i believe first rebellion users with other games would use it but gradually would attract other paople. the quality of this site shows. I did a gooogle search for star wars rebellion and this site was the FIRST to show up before lucasarts original site, given it isnt very good but anyways. i have looked for a site of equal quality on other games and have not found one, so to sum what i said up i think adding other games would grow due to the quality of the site and especially the quality of the forums. just my 2 cents, hopefully i can be back again, i missed alot while i didnt check the forums for a few months.

i just thought of using hegemonia, i love that tactical mode. but we would have to do modding to get it to work(i believe so anyways).. What the heck am i thinking wed probably have to mod all of them

for some reason i was rereading this, no idea why but anyways. It wouldnt be that great for the missions but you could use it on battles and on asaults for battles, still tactical not fps. get what im saying, like impliment the star trek armada engine or im not sure what SF Command is like, and using like civ 2(actually or 3) or galactic battlegrounds for capturing planets. have a few it work into the game where it tells the enging large map 2 player forest starting units... whatever. yuo guys get what im saying or did i lose you

i did get hegemonia and it doesnt run that bad on my 866 P3 with 512 megs ram and a Radion AIW 32

Even if our election was rigged, which im sure it wasnt. at least our people do it good enough not to piss the people off. in Iraq there are armed guards on the spot which shoot you if you dont vote Saddam you die. guess how the election went. and your critisizing our elections even if they are sketchy. P.S. I was a little behind on reading all this and gank almost all the wars we were in we had minimal help from other countries or we went to other countries aid. and since weve been around we saved a lot of peoples asses and i think that we deserve a little help from those countries now. even if the whole thing is a cover up for oil saddam has a lot of shit to kill a lot of people including his own illegaly. that is the issue im concerned with, and the us could live off our own oil alaska is relatively untapped because we can rob our oil from other countries cheaper than it costs to run the pumps here.

lol, Thats great Jahled.

now that i think about it we need to have a load setings botton in the game because if everyone didnt have the same settings it would be messed up. or just an auto part of the game loading in mp, and most definately have a status bar for everyone so we could see how long fo other people to be done not just the comp your at.

the thing i see a problem with is that this will be a massively modded game where possably is mp only not sure but the game will need t eiher have a load settings from host button or the peple will have to have the same mods

Yea, What he said, I agree completely.

ahleds a master at switching topics

Yes you never no where the flow will go.