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Rebel Cap ships: (In order of availability in game) MC40a Gunship Nebulon frigate MC80a Bothan Assault Cruiser? Assault Frigate Majestic Class Heavy Cruiser MC80b Republic Star Destroyer Nebula Star Destroyer Endurance class Fleet Carrier MC 90 Defender class Star Destroyer replace transports with combat vessels? these are replacements for all the warships, most i didnt replace, they were just reordered.

that i shall, thanks Mr. kind-veggie sir

sadly no images are available...i created the models some time ago...before the damn hard drive went under.... ...but it once i find the appropriate modelling program, i should be able to whip some up... if i could find a scanner, i could just send a sketch to u, but i havent access to one. and i'm working right now to see which ships would be replaceable. i didnt mean for all the new ships to be used, just wanted to provide some ideas. i'll see what i can do tho, and i'll be back after some sleep haha.

haha...good point. just joking in any case, but i've always liked pellaeon, it'd be nice to see him go in a blaze of glory. sacrifice himself and his ship in battle?

alright...some basic info. am i too assume that new ships cant be added, but existing ones can only be replaced? that would make a big difference in the shiplist i provided obviously. any other limitations i should know about? i hate being a n00b...

well they'd better hurry up and knock of Pellaeon...he might bite the bullet from old age pretty soon...

Actually Ace, this is a NEW CLASS ship series...so all the existing classes mentioned normally should be present. Such as the MC-80, MC-80a, MC-80b, MC-90, Mon Calamari Star Defender (only rebel supership). As for the timeline, i hadnt known there was a specific timeline...most of these ships are from the Black Fleet Crisis saga. Which isn't too long afterwards. Some of the ships were design earlier. is it from the first thrawn saga or the second one, the duology? well in any case, those problems can be sorted out. just give me a specific frame to work with...i'd just hate to see all these wonderful ships go to waste but compromise is always important. i just want to replace ships like the cc-9600, cc-7700, liberator, dauntless, bulwark....i mean i consider those ships non canon, and easily replaceable.

well well well...here is the list of ships i propose for the New Republic. some may already have been taken care of, and i'm not sure which we can model easily. after ALL the research of the past several hours, i have arranged the ships by the order in which they were researched and developed by the New Republic. 1st we have: 1) Republic-class Star Destroyer(1250m long, equal to ISD in strength at half the price ) 2) Belarus-class Light Cruiser(400m slightly weaker than strike cruiser) 3) Corona-class Line Frigate(based on original Neb-B Frigate) 4) Nebula-class Star Destroyer(1040m long, mobile battle platform like original ISD, with many ground units) 5) Agave class Picket(190m long, like a corvette, fast,stealthy, lightly armed for recon) 6) Sacheen-class Escort (375m long escort frigate replacement) 7) E-Wing...enough said And then, the more advanced 1) K-Wing- heavy, high speed bomber 2) Defender starfighter- VERY manuverable, 3 lasers, speed of an xwing) 3) Endurance-class Fleet Carrier(Center of the fleet, 6 squads of fighters, decent armaments) 4) Defender class Star Destroyer(my personal fave equals an ISDII in firepower, known as a 'pocket' SD at 1040m long) 5) Warrior class Gunship (190m, stronger than the traditional Gunship, can blunt the nose of an ISD...fast) 6) Hajen Fleet Tender (unarmed big big big transport) 7) Majestic Heavy Cruiser(PURE combat vessel, strength of an ISD, none of the extra junk) Defender-class Assault Carrier(700m long, 20 heavy lasers, 3 squads of fighters.) 9) C-wing starfighter(original design by Incom, Vader 'interrogated' the designers, so the plans were lost early on in the Rebellion. Very expensive, but a hell of a fighter...6 lasers, 2 ions, proton torp launcher, speed at about twice that of an A-Wing...it's basically a big interceptor, not necessarily too manuverable. Well that's about it, i have more specific stats for those interested, i'll work on typing those up into a presentable format. I have designs for most of the ships also...but they're basically sketches. And without a scanner...well i cant really post them quite yet! I'll work on that tho. And have no fear, i have a list of Imperial ships that would be needed also for balance

sorry for the excitement...but i must say i've hit the motherload. i've spent the last few hours or so collecting statistics and what not for new ships that can be added to the Reloaded project. It was a lot of work, and a lot more to be done, but i have a feeling this can help the project quite a bit. post here for your interest, i'll be posting a topic in the Reloaded models forum with some specifics.

now that i think about it, these ships really won't have counterpart Imperial ships...i mean these were developed as the Imperial Remnant was basically inactive, featured in the Black Fleet Crisis, and then peace was made with the Remnant. i guess i'll hafta go look for any imperial designs that were developed later on, maybe anyone who has read through the NJO series would know about that? well, till later.

well as long as the topic is drifting about... anyone watch wimbledon? how bout those Americans and Russians?

i forgot to add, i ended up making models for about half of the so called new class ships. for the SD's, it would probably be best if someone could send me the existing VSD and ISD model from the game or from the TC, that way i can get a feel for polycounts and what not. i can just go from there with ship designs. it's not something that only i can do of course, but i'm sure all the REAL modelers here actually have some tough work to do and any help i can provide i will.

just a question, sorry if this is a bit OT. i am about to start some modelling, just to see if i can get myself underway again, maybe even help you all out with Reloaded. i have some experience in 3ds max(probably not enough, but i seem to do alright) but i was wondering if there was something easier and/or quicker to use. does anyone have any ideas of a better program? thanks much

why thank you for the warm welcome right now i am thinking of redrawing some of the basic designs, simply because it has been quite awhile since i have made these ships, it may take a little time to get my creative juices flowing again. for the most part, i looked at the new republic's previous ships, and tried to incorporate design feature that were shown in previous ships, which is logical, ("if it's not broken dont fix it" applies here) since existing designs can be seen to pass from one design to another (ex. VSD->ISD->SSD, z-95->x-wing->E-Wing, etc.) I tried to research the history of the new class ships, learning that the republic SD was the first designed, by Walex Blissex, based off the VSD but greatly improved. I scaled this to the 1040m it was supposed to be, ripped off the stupid wingy things that aided the VSD for atmospheric flight, added some turbolaser 'blisters' that can be seen on Nebulon-B's and Dreadnaughts, took away some of the existing superstructure (the Republic SD was supposed to have a much smaller crew req. and i figured that dumbing down some of the excess structures could show this) and bam, i just used that. of course more could be done, but that was a good start i thought. in the nebula and defender models, i used a basic ISD, but i used a completely NEW bridge, one that looks somewhat like that present in the nebulon B, but much larger . i also removed the normal hangar bay location which is underneath the SD usually, and placed hangar bays at the sides in one model, and also at the top in another. add turbolaser blisters, once again dumb down the extensive superstructure, and we've got a couple more SDs. The majestic was TOTALLY original, which was hard lol, it had something like the dreadnaughts aft engine section, a thick connecting spar to the forward section. the forward section looked rather like the front of a strike cruiser, and also had a few engines on it. after it was done, the model reminded me somewhat half mon cal cruiser, and half dreadnaught, with a pinch of nebulon b frigate. well in any case, i'll work my arse off and conjure up some image in the near future, starting from the drawing boards. literally. well i've just typed waaaaay too much, my apologies

while it was sometime ago, i created a great many models for good 'ol ST:armada as part of a personal star wars mod i was making. it annoyed me how NO ONE included the New Republic's "New Class Program" warships, such as the Defender, nebula, and republic class star destroyers, sacheen, agave, majestic heavy cruiser, so on and so forth. since no one before had made these ships, i had to make them up myself lol. it wasnt easy, and many probably wouldnt like them since everyone has their own ideas about what these ships would look like, but i tried to observe trends noticed in many rebel ships (gun blisters on heavy ships, things like that) and apply them to this project. i took a regular star destroyer design, tried to scale it to the sizes that they were supposed to be in comparision to the Imperial class star destroyer, and it all came out alright...of course i couldnt texture for crap, so it sort of fell apart there haha... but i'm willing to lend my modelling skill, but more so my creative skill in helping this project. i'm also of course willing to do anything else to help, but just an idea with these more advanced ships that can be brought in a little later on...and with canon attributes, of course

you bring up good points, i have often wondered the same thing. especially in times of extreme boredom . but it's always easiest to just realize that it's human instinct to survive, and if u're going to have to live, you might as well have some fun while u're at it...and obviously rebellion is the best way to do that haha

wow that's quite a bit actually, i'm glad to see progress. i thought model's couldnt be changed without hacking into the game's .exe or something? well if that's changed, that's good news. and a TC is also nice to see, i cant wait to see that in it's completion! Thanks scathane. and also thanks for replying to my email, i got my forum log in to work, i just hadnt waited long enough i guess.

well i havent been here in awhile, i was with the old forum oh so long ago with the old website, but i guess i sorta just fell out of Rebellion! All of a sudden, in the boredom of the pre-college summer, i have a renewed interest in how the reb 2 project may or may not be going, and tho i need a new copy of Rebellion, i want to go purchase it again just because i actually still love the game. having not played it in so long, i'm not sure exactly how well i would fare in it...but still i'm on the hunt for a copy of it. if anyone could update me on what's been goin on i'd much appreciate it till later..