Republic UTAT repulsor tank

[Dr. Nick]

We're not looking at these things by company, this is viewed by product. No matter what company the models are from, it's illegal. Why do you think that taking FoC models and putting them into EaW is not allowed?

[Nomada_firefox]

Why do you think that taking FoC models and putting them into EaW is not allowed?

Who told it? I only have read it from forum members as me. It is as if I go one day and I write that eat fish is bad to the heart.

[ovi_da_tiger]

I would like add C, these games are from Lucasarts, I did not nothing bad because I´m working with materials from the same company.

 

PD:Language barriers where are you from, Droid? I´m from spain and to me is very difficult understand english sometimes (but I have a spanish copy of EULA on my home).

 

we all need to learn mandalorian....or huttse and use it as a universal star wars geek language......just like the trekies have klingoff/klingon <-- whichever.

 

anyways it is obvious that the UT-AT model was not ripped from bf2 but it was modeled by someone called dooki, which makes it safe to use

 

so Nomada_firefox, all we need to know is how did you come to get the gunship and shuttle model,

1) you ripped it from a game

2) u modeled them (in that case nice work)

3) u used a original game model and used it as a template to make your own version.

4) someone gave them to u

 

im hoping its either 2) or 3) cause i really want to use that gunship in my mod

 

btw guys, where do i make a placeholder thread for a mod in this forum?? i already made one in PG forums and want to see wat u guys think of it.

[Droid803]

Yes, I know about the UT-AT, that's fine (and there's another UT-AT anyway).

 

OFF TOPIC: Just make it here, or in the community works section...and btw, nice mod you have...looks cool (I hate corvettes!)

[Nomada_firefox]

Ah Ovi, you should ask to Doofi about use the UTAT model, he is a good man and probably you will have not problems. His email address is derDooFi@gmx.de

 

About Protoshuttle, very probably I do not go to use it because I do not know make animations or make a landing model, and as a space model it is not very good.

 

Probably I will release today the Gunship and the UTAT. I only must change on them the muzzle flash and few things on weapons, I have done the code and test them without problems.

 

3) u used a original game model and used it as a template to make your own version.

I made it.

 

And I think that the legal problems should be from Ultimate Unwrap 3D creators because they make one tool to convert models from games.

 

And Why nobody have answered it.

Why do you think that taking FoC models and putting them into EaW is not allowed?

Who told it? I only have read it from forum members as me. It is as if I go one day and I write that eat fish is bad to the heart.

Because nobody can.

Edited July 21, 2007 by Nomada_firefox

[Nomada_firefox]

Lately I have been thinking about the import models from FOC and why you tell that it is ilegal and I have remembered that when EAW and FOC demo were release many people on this  and other forums and on file front ripped the demo to put things from the full game, was it legal? because it can answer many of your spiritual questions.

[vaders_Legion]

filefront was meerily using data that was already included in the demo. they still used the demo to launch the mod so its perfectily legal. they extracted the models was the difference and put them back into the same game they came from. theres a difference between ripping and modding.

[Nomada_firefox]

filefront was meerily using data that was already included in the demo. they still used the demo to launch the mod so its perfectily legal. they extracted the models was the difference and put them back into the same game they came from. theres a difference between ripping and modding.

I do not see difference on make a demo as a game with take models from FOC to EAW or ripped a game. Sorry by my words but you are been a bit hypocrite.

 

Lucasarts made the demo only to test the game and people that mod the demo make it as the game, with it many people could not want to buy the full game.

[vaders_Legion]

theres a difference, the demo included the game models. We recoded their units so they're re enabled. No EaW mods have used any FoC models because it isnt legal to port them over. Yes lucasarts cannot stop people from porting the models but they can stop people from releasing them. Im not trying to stop you from releasing your mod/ported models but im just trying to give you some advice. They company might come down on you if you do.

[Nomada_firefox]

theres a difference, the demo included the game models. We recoded their units so they're re enabled. No EaW mods have used any FoC models because it isnt legal to port them over. Yes lucasarts cannot stop people from porting the models but they can stop people from releasing them. Im not trying to stop you from releasing your mod/ported models but im just trying to give you some advice. They company might come down on you if you do.

Good it is only your opinion.

 

And.......I repeat again, where have you read one Lucasarts public message telling that we can not import FoC models to EAW? or where have you read one Lucasarts public message telling that we can make mods from their games?

 

I have give you all the EULA information and you......what have you give me? nothing of official information.

 

And I´m a bit tired of this.......and I go to continue with the Alliance mod.

[Shadin]

i have heard modding itself is illegal, companies let it continue to prolong thier games. if they wanted, they could get anyone i think, especially if it endangers sells of other games, as porting does.

[Droid803]

Indeed.

Modding IS illegal, but its beneficial to sales so companies allow it.

Porting on the other hand is also illegal, and its detrimental to sales, so companies will exert their right to terminate the action...just...don't do it.

[ovi_da_tiger]

and there u have it folks the gunship model was made by Nomada_firefox......he didnt use the bf2 version

 

Nomada_firefox....i am presuming that u have ultimate unwrap 3d....do you think u can convert the FOC eclipse and victory star destroyer into .obj format and send them to me??

[Nomada_firefox]

Yes, I have it but I do not go to convert FOC models to nobody. And Why do you want the foc eclipse and vsd? they are a disaster.

 

And lately I´m working on two Clon Wars models more, they are the Cis Heavy Artillery Gun HAG and one air vehicle named MAF Gunship, this last is a very experimental unit that we saw running on BF1. The first is a CIS artillery vehicle as the AAT but with a big gun.

 

I will put screenshots on night probably when I have some ended.

 

And I do not go to make the Protoshuttle, I do not know where use it.

[Droid803]

SO, he made his own.

There's nothing wrong with that.

 

Sorry for spamming up your thread with 2 pages of legal debate! lol.

[Dr. Nick]

If you made the gunship yourself, then could you post the skin of the gunship here? Watermarks would be fine.

[Droid803]

Um...that gunship, on second glance, looks nothing like the one in SWBF2. He must have done some major kitbashing then...

 

But he did specifically say that the protoshuttle (Theta-class shuttle dammit), was from SWBF2 model. Looks the same too.

[Nomada_firefox]

If you made the gunship yourself, then could you post the skin of the gunship here? Watermarks would be fine.

When I end it, I will release it on the mod. I was thinking on make it as a LAAT Gunship but lately I would like try if it can flight as a land fighter, on Episode III we can see it flying very fast.

[vaders_Legion]

yea im also sorry for spamming your thread with legal crap, anyhow.....

[Nomada_firefox]

Thanks, no problem, I put big answers with legal information.

[Nomada_firefox]

These are the last versions of the new units on the next Alliance upgrade. On special on the Clon Wars Submod.

Hover Combat.

http://www.clannomada.com/capturas/eawA/eawAC09.jpg

UTAT.

http://www.clannomada.com/capturas/eawA/eawAC10.jpg

CIS Gunship.

http://www.clannomada.com/capturas/eawA/eawAC11.jpg

HAG, heavy artillery gun.

http://www.clannomada.com/capturas/eawA/eawAC12.jpg

MAF.

http://www.clannomada.com/capturas/eawA/eawAC13.jpg

 

Their names are a bit different on mod.

[vaders_Legion]

sorry to disappoint your but thats an att, not a hag.

[Droid803]

>.>

 

A HAG as an AAT with a bigger gun.

[Nomada_firefox]

The HAG is only a AAT with as Droid tell with a artillery gun. If you have a visual comparation with the AAT, it has a smaller gun. And if you compare the AAT and HAG from other mods with the units on Alliance mod, you will see more changes.

 

And speaking about these units, the MAF has a different fly movement, I have not seen some as it on other mods, this model has not a turret but the main hull is as a turret and when it fly as a fighter, it rotates to fire the best weapon on target, I find it some very interesting, I made the CIS Gunship not as LAAT gunship, I made it as a fighter.

 

And the UTAT, I deleted the back turret barrels because on EAW I do not know create multiple turrets for weapons, on mod UTAT has 7 different weapons, 3 are heavy and the rest are anti infantry weapons.

 

And the HAG........good it has a very fun main gun with infantry.

 

About combat speeder, it is a very light vehicle.

 

Ah I do not wait that one man out Spain play the mod but you can add the things that I have done on it on your mods, only with the correct credit, be careful because I have not done all the mod.

[Mr.Caine]

Impressive models, about the UTAT you said you can't put in the anti infantry turrets? Did you take a look at the Gargantua's code? It has multiple turrets...or is this for Reg EAW?

 

About the HAG...Actually their are several different looks for it.

 

STAR WARS: CLONE WARS: http://images3.wikia.com/starwars/images/a/a6/Heavy_Artillery_Gun.JPG STAR WARS: GALACTIC BATTLEGROUNDS: http://images2.wikia.com/starwars/images/c/c1/TradeFederationHAG-M.jpg