swgbex Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Firstly, those are not stock FoC models, so your point is now void. Secondly, they have vastly higher poly counts than stock FoC models, which in part makes up for the lack of bump maps (sheer laziness on the modders parts). But if you slap a stock ISD next to a Space Addon one, you'll find the lower-poly ISD with a bump map still looks better than the higher-poly ISD without itActually.. it depends..First I come to treat bump mapping as a modeler being lazy.. not a modder being lazy"Never substitute a bump map for geometry that should be there"thats whats said in productionof course in gaming its more efficient to use a bump map... That being said.. A ship with more polies SANS bump map should look better because of the fact that the detail is actually there, than one with one trying to make up for it.. Bump maps get you close.. not that close However normally *IN EAW* good bump maps and low poly counts do indeed look better than high poly sans bum.. due to the fact that if they DID add the geometry that the bump map added.. the poly count would go off the charts, those models problably dont have all the details modeled and are expected to have those in the bump map .. just out of the fact that it will go in game http://www.swgbex.com/sig.jpgHehe IA 2 venator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonShadow Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Actually.. it depends..First I come to treat bump mapping as a modeler being lazy.. not a modder being lazy"Never substitute a bump map for geometry that should be there"thats whats said in productionof course in gaming its more efficient to use a bump map... That being said.. A ship with more polies SANS bump map should look better because of the fact that the detail is actually there, than one with one trying to make up for it.. Bump maps get you close.. not that close However normally *IN EAW* good bump maps and low poly counts do indeed look better than high poly sans bum.. due to the fact that if they DID add the geometry that the bump map added.. the poly count would go off the charts, those models problably dont have all the details modeled and are expected to have those in the bump map .. just out of the fact that it will go in game Homeworld 2 engine doesn't use bumpmaps, so Warlords models don't have bump-maps. However, for EaW/FoC's engine to compare with HW2's, it needs it's one advantage: bump-map capability. Bump maps actually look better in EaW than modeled on details (due to the engine's lighting effects). Unless a model is in the multi-100k range of polies (such as the original Legacy SD model on scifi meshes), textures tend to look flat even with modeled details. Bump-maps give a 3d effect without having to model (significantly increasing poly count) all the tiny details of the texturing. But I digress. Use em or not, your choice. I'm just saying they'll look better if they get added. Either way, imagine high-polies...with bump maps. ;D Very good eye candy, lol. http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/NightshadowDragon/RyuuKageSIG.jpg http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/NightshadowDragon/AoSW-JCW_Banner.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomada_firefox Posted May 11, 2007 Author Share Posted May 11, 2007 =(As people have said above.. dont think that way.. I am guessing you havnt really seen what bump maps can really do.. *refer you to my sig i do!*you dont have to put bump maps if you dont want...If you do however.. dont forget about the specular map.. A bump map looks absolutely horrible if the specular map is set incorrectly... Oh I´m adding them now. specular map is set incorrectly... What is the specular map? "Nada escapa a mis dominios".Clan Nomada Web Site FirefoxCCMods Web Site (Only www.FirefoxCCMods.com is a English web site). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_of_the_Sith Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Bump is a necessary thing if you want the skin appear at it's best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomada_firefox Posted May 11, 2007 Author Share Posted May 11, 2007 I have corrected the hardpoints on all the new models and added the bump maps on all them less on three, I have problems with the family repair yard, shipyard, rebel plattform and Ion battery, with bump map they take a brown color. By the moment I have added these models.AssaultShuttleAssaulttransportBulk CruiserBulk FreighterCargo Facility 1Cargo Facility 2Cargo FerryCasinoCommRelayContainer TransportDerilynplatformescortshuttlefactoryfamily repair yardFerry Boat LinerFreighterboxFreighterConBFReighterConGGunpadGunplatformImperial Search shipImperial Search CenterIndustrial ComplexIonBatModquettransportModactiontransportModularconveyorPassengerlinerProcessingPlantRepair YardImperial Scout CraftShipyardSpaceColony1SpaceColony2SpaceColony3StargaleonXiytiarttransportTie Droid Interceptor Warhead Now I go to add a few fighters. "Nada escapa a mis dominios".Clan Nomada Web Site FirefoxCCMods Web Site (Only www.FirefoxCCMods.com is a English web site). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Wars Godzilla Ruler Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Very good job, Nomada_firefox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Felipe Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 You can give it as mant abitilities as you want, from what I know, but onky 3 will show on the commandbar Only TWO show in the command bar. I think what he and myself are asking is if you can set a unit to have more than two abilities and still have them button activated. EXAMPLE: Acclamator Cruiserabilities:(manually activated) power to weapons(manually activated)power to engines(manually activated)power to shields Is this example possible? http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/sf/type/0/captainartenon.pnghttp://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Sith_Lords_EaW/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=5554600Alternate Sitehttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a245/loverdog/pffuserbar1.jpghttp://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6296/sweawuban0cg.pngPetition for Obsidian and Bioware to work on Knights of the Old Republic III together! 3926 Total Signatures and counting!SW Fanon Wiki entry - Captain Artenon"A fake news show on fox should have real news!" -Louis Black, The Daily Show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonShadow Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Only TWO show in the command bar. I think what he and myself are asking is if you can set a unit to have more than two abilities and still have them button activated. EXAMPLE: Acclamator Cruiserabilities:(manually activated) power to weapons(manually activated)power to engines(manually activated)power to shields Is this example possible? Technically. As it is, the GUI only supports two ability buttons. The only way around this would be to add some abilities as Passive abilities (such as Jedi ability to deflect blaster shots), or to modify the ALO models the GUI uses by adding more bones so more ability buttons can be displayed. That would allow you to (potentiall) add as many ability-button locations as you desire...I think... ;D http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/NightshadowDragon/RyuuKageSIG.jpg http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/NightshadowDragon/AoSW-JCW_Banner.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomada_firefox Posted May 11, 2007 Author Share Posted May 11, 2007 Only TWO show in the command bar. I think what he and myself are asking is if you can set a unit to have more than two abilities and still have them button activated. EXAMPLE: Acclamator Cruiserabilities:(manually activated) power to weapons(manually activated)power to engines(manually activated)power to shields Is this example possible?I have tried it and the answer is no, you can not because with keys the unit will not accept the last abilitie. "Nada escapa a mis dominios".Clan Nomada Web Site FirefoxCCMods Web Site (Only www.FirefoxCCMods.com is a English web site). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadin Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Right-Clicking the unit brings up it's abilities, what about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomada_firefox Posted May 11, 2007 Author Share Posted May 11, 2007 Right-Clicking the unit brings up it's abilities, what about that?But game will not let select the third, you only will see the icon. "Nada escapa a mis dominios".Clan Nomada Web Site FirefoxCCMods Web Site (Only www.FirefoxCCMods.com is a English web site). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droid803 Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Actually, Right-clicking on it won't even show the third.Tried and tested, thank you very much. The hot key may be the only way to activated it, but I know for SURE the AI can access the third ability, but not the player. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/kc1991/droid803sig.jpg"That was fun" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomada_firefox Posted May 13, 2007 Author Share Posted May 13, 2007 And........where can I edit the ability? "Nada escapa a mis dominios".Clan Nomada Web Site FirefoxCCMods Web Site (Only www.FirefoxCCMods.com is a English web site). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomada_firefox Posted June 1, 2007 Author Share Posted June 1, 2007 If somebody want all the Xwing Alliance ALO models with their textures and code I´m uploading now the EAWAlliance1.5 mod with all them to my server, you will can download them on www.firefoxccmods.com or www.clannomada.com . I remember you that it is a Spanish EAW mod. This is the complete list of the ships that I have converted. *Scout Craft.*Imperial Searchship.*TIE Warhead.*TIE Booster.*TIE Biggun.*TIE Bizarro.*Loronar ModStrike Cruiser.*Bulk Cruiser.*Razorfighter.*Planetaryfighter.*Piggyback.*IRDFighter*AssaultShuttle.*Assaulttransport.*Stormtransport.*Escorttransport.*EscortShuttle.*Plattform XQ1.*Plattform XQ2.*Plattform XQ3.*Plattform XQ4.*Plattform XQ5.*Plattform XQ6.*Bulk Freighter.*Cargo Facility 1.*Cargo Facility 2.*Cargo Ferry.*Casino.*CommRelay.*SensorRelay.*HangarContainer.*Container Transport.*Derilynplatform.*Factory.*Family repair yard.*Ferry Boat Liner.*Freighterbox.*FreighterConB.*FreighterConG.*Gunpad.*GunWarhead.*Gunplatform.*Imperial Search Center.*Industrial Complex.*IonBat.*Modquettransport.*Modactiontransport.*Modularconveyor.*Passengerliner.*ProcessingPlant.*Repair Yard.*Shipyard.*SpaceColony1.*SpaceColony2.*SpaceColony3.*Stargaleon.*Xiytiarttransport.*RebelPlattform. And if you want see more new things there is a Super Star Destroyer Eclipse I from the AGDV3 mod that probably their creators do not recognize witn many changes on engines, textures, hardpoints and code.http://www.clannomada.com/capturas/eawA/eawA04.jpgAbout other ships I have edited other Evilljedi converted to other mods as SAU3.0 Reloaded, SpaceAddon making on them many changes on textures, paticle effects and on special on hardpoints. http://www.clannomada.com/capturas/eawA/eawA01.jpghttp://www.clannomada.com/capturas/eawA/eawA02.jpg As always I remember you that these ships are from Evilljedi and they were originaly converted to ALO format by the creators of the mods SAU3.0 Reloaded and SpaceAddon/FocSpaceAddon. The mod EAWAlliance was created thanks to the creators from these mods and these more.z3r0xfocaddonEAW-Strategic_Improvementv1.9bConflict_in_space_v4.1Lions_epic-realismmodUltimate EAWEaW Total Realism And if you want know I edited the ALO models with Ultimate Unwrap3D and 3DMax 8. Thanks to Mikeln by the Aloviewer and to Swgbex by his tutorials.Xwing Alliance models were edited thanks to Isildur and his program Xwing Alliance OPT to 3d Studio file format converter, v1.0 and Optgl1.04. "Nada escapa a mis dominios".Clan Nomada Web Site FirefoxCCMods Web Site (Only www.FirefoxCCMods.com is a English web site). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 those look real nice man good job. Hope to se more pics soon. ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaders_Legion Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 I recognized the AGD V3 eclipse (Dark Empire Spgs eclipse). Do you have permission to use the model? If not, this mod will have to do without it because of permission issues. Talk to kelathin for permission to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomada_firefox Posted June 3, 2007 Author Share Posted June 3, 2007 I have tried contact with all people, some has not answered me or I do not know how contact. "Nada escapa a mis dominios".Clan Nomada Web Site FirefoxCCMods Web Site (Only www.FirefoxCCMods.com is a English web site). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaders_Legion Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Oh, ill ask Kelathin for ya. Btw, nice idea of the xwa model conversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Wars Godzilla Ruler Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Sorry about that, I was a little distracted and the first thing that came to my ming was the Executor. Again, sorry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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