marine436 Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 (edited) .... first off he totally owned me, i didnt get to go on the offensive once, i was trying to barely hold my outskrits i won a few small battles but all the major push's were totally his anyways he also made muiltplayer hes a really nice guy i told him that i liked the fact they patched the first day with some problems unlike ea games for bf2 and he said they just wanted to fix some issues over-all it made my first day of sweaw that much better Edited February 16, 2006 by Cain
Guest JediIgor Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 You mean patching it first day is better then making it go through QA?
marine436 Posted February 16, 2006 Author Posted February 16, 2006 dude at some point you got to make a game going gold and no, makeing it gold go then makeing a patch is alot better, we get the same sooner and they get the issues fixed
Delphi-PG Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 Good game! Yes the patch has been in QA for two weeks. We found issues and wanted to address them. Lets just say we want to make sure EAW is fun. I expect more issues to arise, so expect to see more patches. =) Delphi-PGGame Designer/Community Rephttp://www.petroglyphgames.com
crazylegsmurphy Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 pssst...read my posts...there are some that have arised No, but that's cool...I would love to play against someone who designed the game...that would be funny!
Necro Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 yea its common knowledge that somethings will get thru qa, and tis better to patch it before most people have the game so i was wondering is there a ranking system a ladder of sorts?
Guest JediIgor Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 Patches are good, but patches that are out before the game say something bad..
gstommylee Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 Patches are good, but patches that are out before the game say something bad.. most companies would wait a month or more before doing a patch.
Foshjedi2004 Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 If after the game went gold they did a Scenario that caused a problem of course they would want to release a patch. It just shows how dedicated to the game they really are. Or just what LEC did to try and get the game released on time. http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/knivesdamaster/tags/sith_omguserbar_member.jpg
WhiteSkull Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 Patches are good, but patches that are out before the game say something bad.. LOL no that is good IMO most companys wait 1-3months before they patch and every single game out the door needs a patch no game works 100% bug free on all systems.
Delphi-PG Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 Patches are good, but patches that are out before the game say something bad.. So we are not allowed to fix things after the game has gone gold? You're saying it would be better to wait than be proactive? Sorry,not going to happen with this team. ;D Plan on seeing more patches. Delphi-PGGame Designer/Community Rephttp://www.petroglyphgames.com
Zer_Teron Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 Its a good thing i got Broadband a while ago, a 20Mb patch is heavy for 50.6k http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3488/zersigef1.jpg
Ishmael-PG Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 Patches are good, but patches that are out before the game say something bad.. I sense abuse from "other" companies regarding patches. Sad. I'll let you in on a little secret... there's about a 3-5 week gap between going gold (i.e. you're done with the game) and having it hit shelves. None of us went on vacation, forgot about the game, or just goofed off with other stuff. We've been playing the game nonstop since it went gold, and lo, we found some things we wanted to fix, so we fixed them. As Delphi said, we've had the patch in test for several weeks. Was the game playable without the patch? Sure. Does the patch make it more playable? You bet. Ishmael-PGSr. Designerwww.petroglyphgames.com
vasuba_pff Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 You guys having a patch ready on game Day speaks volumes about your dedication. So many game Companies abuse thier Players by waiting a month or more to release patches to things they know need fixing. You get a High Five for being on the ball and next time im in vegas pizza is on me
Xenomorphine Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 makeing it gold go then makeing a patch is alot better, we get the same sooner and they get the issues fixed Wha...?! You do realise that a hell of a lot of people play games who don't have access to the Internet, don't you? Sure, I do and I'm incredibly glad to the people who made this, for bothering to think about those of us 56K people who are unable to get broadband ability (literally, in my case - I'm on a boat in a marina and you won't find any engineers who'll want to install it here!), but depending on people being able to download patches to make a product able to be used is just lazy business practice. As I've heard so many glowing reviews of the demonstration version being stable, I'm hoping that whatever's being patched is more along the lines of polishing, rather than along the lines of what games like 'X3' did, but arguing in favour of a company should releasing a crappy product onto the market and applying successive band aids to fix obvious problems (which I'm not saying is necessarily the case here), is just overly nonsensical. So, please remember, not everyone has cable (the last time I saw a survey along those lines, it was a minority of Internet-enabled users who had that) or even any personal access to the Internet. Sure, a lot of people have an E-mail address, but that doesn't mean a thing. It's what public libraries are often used for. But as I say, this isn't a protest against the company of this game, because it sounds like it's fairly good, plus they've had the good grace to release the patch in a size which is at least downloadable within the usual two hour limit that us 56K people have to put up with! I just don't understand people who assume that everyone has Internet access and cable speed. Most customers won't do.
Necro Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 oh come on, everyone now adays has internet if nothing else than 56k.
Teradyn_pff Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 Sorry, but in the game world, no internet doesn't make much sense at all. How would you keep your drivers up to date, for example? My Death Star is bigger than your Death Star!"The XML is strong with this one!"http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/bg/type/0/teradyn.png
Tophat1812 Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 Patches are good, but patches that are out before the game say something bad.. : You didn't disappoint me.................
sithwolf Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 how long might it be until the delphi and his gang get a good a good kicking by our rebel scum.
Darksythe Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 I think the patch should have waited until Monday so to give people some time though it dose fix things, so its not necisseraly a bad thing, i be far more worried to see major things buged and stuff like that on a release, but the game seems stable from what i can see that no one has complained http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/bg/type/2/nexeus.png
Xenomorphine Posted February 17, 2006 Posted February 17, 2006 Sorry, but in the game world, no internet doesn't make much sense at all. How would you keep your drivers up to date, for example? Magazine discs, for one, but the most likely answer is that such people usually wouldn't be able to. I know I was able to use an ATI 9000 and it still worked on virtually everything I had, even up to 'Rome: Total War' without ever needing an update! The only thing which absolutely required it was 'Half-Life 2', which seemed to have a fixation about continuously forcing the system to be as updated as physically possible. I've since graduated onto something a lot more modern, but it's definitely a mistake to imagine that it's impossible for people to not have an Internet connection and play games regularly. In fact, most of the people I know who have a computer rely on their place of work to answer mail with and don't have a connection at home and they're not exactly poor or anything. I'd imagine that it could easily be as high as potentially a quarter of total computer users who don't have a connection at home, but definitely a minority who have higher than a 56K speed. They're getting higher, but still not the majority. You just don't hear from them much in the most visible forums, because they have no reason to buy the sorts of games which are built around multiple player stuff. That this game has been designed to be playable on very low specification systems is something which is going to work hugely in its favour and, in my view, guarantee a lot of sales. A potential success, just from simply doing that!
Bigedmond Posted February 17, 2006 Posted February 17, 2006 HAHA, Delphi owned every QA tester. I was the better of the testers in vegas, but he handed me my butt everytime. Like a fat kid playing dodge ball, im out
shadowsfm Posted February 17, 2006 Posted February 17, 2006 force comander had a patch on day one too, but only to fix internet staybility. to bad they never made more fixes
Wiz33 Posted February 17, 2006 Posted February 17, 2006 Magazine discs, for one, but the most likely answer is that such people usually wouldn't be able to. I know I was able to use an ATI 9000 and it still worked on virtually everything I had, even up to 'Rome: Total War' without ever needing an update! The only thing which absolutely required it was 'Half-Life 2', which seemed to have a fixation about continuously forcing the system to be as updated as physically possible. I've since graduated onto something a lot more modern, but it's definitely a mistake to imagine that it's impossible for people to not have an Internet connection and play games regularly. In fact, most of the people I know who have a computer rely on their place of work to answer mail with and don't have a connection at home and they're not exactly poor or anything. I'd imagine that it could easily be as high as potentially a quarter of total computer users who don't have a connection at home, but definitely a minority who have higher than a 56K speed. They're getting higher, but still not the majority. You just don't hear from them much in the most visible forums, because they have no reason to buy the sorts of games which are built around multiple player stuff. That this game has been designed to be playable on very low specification systems is something which is going to work hugely in its favour and, in my view, guarantee a lot of sales. A potential success, just from simply doing that! If they don't have internet, then they won't know there's a patch and since the game is playabel without. No harm no foul.
Xenomorphine Posted February 18, 2006 Posted February 18, 2006 If they don't have internet, then they won't know there's a patch and since the game is playabel without. No harm no foul. I already stated that I wasn't specifying this game, but was instead arguing against those who advocate products in general should be released in an extremely raw form and then patched up to a useable state later. Would you want to buy a car which was almost certainly guaranteed to crash if you drove it, on the understanding that, if you received enough free attention at the local garage, it might possibly let you drive safely?
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