Dorkthehunter Posted November 14, 2005 Posted November 14, 2005 I think both factions should get some type of cloaking/jammer device just make it that the Imperial ones costs less but is less effective but the rebels cost more but are more effective. Simple solution. Even more simple solution: Don't put it in! Why should you put something in that is no where near the timeline? Cloaking devises were used by Jorus C'Boath and GA Thrawn. Unless the mod is going through a campaign all the way to that point, cloaking devises should not be in. And if it does go that far, the New Republic would have enough money to purchase it also, at least my New Republic would. Well also the Empire wouldn't last that long anyway. The Rebels would crush them! Protecting the world from those who have an IQ higher than 30! Huzzah! Trust me...I'm a professional. Some other members and I are trying to be superheroes and save the forums. But we can't do it on our own. We need your help! Join us! http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5380/pffuserbar2modnp0.jpg
Guest JediIgor Posted November 14, 2005 Posted November 14, 2005 Jammers were definitely in though, they were even in the TIE Fighter series games.
Stellar_Magic Posted November 14, 2005 Posted November 14, 2005 I've read that A-wings were equipped with Jamming Packages. What they were meant to do, I don't know exactly. Forum and RPG Membership:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsTC.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsRPG2.jpg Signature:Sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from Magic. -Arthur C. Clarke
Admrial Joyce Posted November 15, 2005 Author Posted November 15, 2005 I've read that A-wings were equipped with Jamming Packages. What they were meant to do, I don't know exactly. Yes that is true. The DS's also had Rader Jammers. Thats why the rebel did not see the shield up. If it were not for Lando the Rebel stafighters would just hit the shield at Endor. Anyway perhapss the radar jammers on the DS stop you getting as much infomation on it. Why should you put something in that is no where near the timeline? Becuase the Plaps shuttle had one and i am sure he had it in before endor. http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4305/cap2073na.pngTime to do some damage.
Lytyr Posted November 15, 2005 Posted November 15, 2005 I think both factions should get some type of cloaking/jammer device just make it that the Imperial ones costs less but is less effective but the rebels cost more but are more effective. Simple solution. Even more simple solution: Don't put it in! Why should you put something in that is no where near the timeline? Cloaking devises were used by Jorus C'Boath and GA Thrawn. Unless the mod is going through a campaign all the way to that point, cloaking devises should not be in. And if it does go that far, the New Republic would have enough money to purchase it also, at least my New Republic would. Well also the Empire wouldn't last that long anyway. The Rebels would crush them! Only 5 years after RotJ was the cloaking device discovered, and then used. IT was likely developed long before that. The storage room itself was a top-secret area that only Palpy new the true location to, I believe. Which means for it to have be in there, it would have to have been completed, at the very latest, a week or so before the start of RotJ. However, with all the DS2 commotion and so on, I doubt the Emperor had time to get the thing working. My guess is it was finished around the time of episodes IV-V, maybe a wee bit after. Considering A-wings were also created during that time periode (more or less), I see no reason a cloaking device couldn't be accessible - at high cost, and only to the player who owns Wayland at that time. Cost could be high, and charged for each ship on which is would be installed. Don't forget - at the time, there was no reliable way to attack from within the cloaking shield (barring liberal use of the Force), so it would be for surprise only.[/i] Currently waiting to get Age of Empires 3, Dawn of War, and Star Wars: Empire at War
Guest JediIgor Posted November 15, 2005 Posted November 15, 2005 I think both factions should get some type of cloaking/jammer device just make it that the Imperial ones costs less but is less effective but the rebels cost more but are more effective. Simple solution. Even more simple solution: Don't put it in! Why should you put something in that is no where near the timeline? Cloaking devises were used by Jorus C'Boath and GA Thrawn. Unless the mod is going through a campaign all the way to that point, cloaking devises should not be in. And if it does go that far, the New Republic would have enough money to purchase it also, at least my New Republic would. Well also the Empire wouldn't last that long anyway. The Rebels would crush them! Only 5 years after RotJ was the cloaking device discovered, and then used. IT was likely developed long before that. The storage room itself was a top-secret area that only Palpy new the true location to, I believe. Which means for it to have be in there, it would have to have been completed, at the very latest, a week or so before the start of RotJ. However, with all the DS2 commotion and so on, I doubt the Emperor had time to get the thing working. My guess is it was finished around the time of episodes IV-V, maybe a wee bit after. Considering A-wings were also created during that time periode (more or less), I see no reason a cloaking device couldn't be accessible - at high cost, and only to the player who owns Wayland at that time. Cost could be high, and charged for each ship on which is would be installed. Don't forget - at the time, there was no reliable way to attack from within the cloaking shield (barring liberal use of the Force), so it would be for surprise only.[/i] Palpatine knowing about the cloaking project doesn't prove anything about the time period. We know that after the Death Star II blows up, Palpatine goes to Byss where he recovers and rebuilds for several years.. giving him plenty of time to become aware of the cloaking project.
Sithxace Posted November 15, 2005 Posted November 15, 2005 the guy who just said the cloaking device was discovered 5 years after ROTJ, well wrong cause after ROTJ vader is dead, well if uy played rebel assault 2, vader deff is part of the story when the rebels try and destroy the phantom fighters -SithxaceEaW.net Moderator
Admrial Joyce Posted November 16, 2005 Author Posted November 16, 2005 Wait a minute. When the Falcon hid behind a ISD in ESB. The captain said no ship that small could have a cloaking devise. http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4305/cap2073na.pngTime to do some damage.
Foshjedi2004 Posted November 16, 2005 Posted November 16, 2005 The Mount Tantiss Storage facility was a little place for Palpatine to store usefull bits of technology. In the SW universe the Cloaking technology has been around nearly as long as Holoshrouds and Hyperdrive. Its just noone has been able to implement it so far. http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/knivesdamaster/tags/sith_omguserbar_member.jpg
Zer_Teron Posted November 16, 2005 Posted November 16, 2005 You do realize that cloaking ships makes them blind as well? If you brought a large Imperial Fleet out of hyperspace with cloak on it would probably be hit by debris and other ships. http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3488/zersigef1.jpg
Admrial Joyce Posted November 16, 2005 Author Posted November 16, 2005 You do realize that cloaking ships makes them blind as well? If you brought a large Imperial Fleet out of hyperspace with cloak on it would probably be hit by debris and other ships. Would you actually have the power to make a ship go into hyperspace and have a cloaking divise on at the same time? http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4305/cap2073na.pngTime to do some damage.
Stellar_Magic Posted November 16, 2005 Posted November 16, 2005 Darth Maul's personal starship was equipped with a cloaking device. Forum and RPG Membership:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsTC.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsRPG2.jpg Signature:Sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from Magic. -Arthur C. Clarke
Guest JediIgor Posted November 16, 2005 Posted November 16, 2005 Okay guys, the whole point of cloaking devices is that *you're blind* while its active. So they aren't very useful unless you put Jedi to fly them, otherwise you can fly into a sun or something and you wouldn't even know about. Furthermore, after the TIE Phantom facility is sabotaged, no more ships geared for production and equipped with cloaking devices are created!
Admrial Joyce Posted November 16, 2005 Author Posted November 16, 2005 Anyway bact to Jammers. It would be good to have them in. It would certainly help attacks. What does everyone else think. http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4305/cap2073na.pngTime to do some damage.
Ghostly_Substance Posted November 16, 2005 Posted November 16, 2005 Yes then your minimap goes black in the spot the jammer blocked. You'll then have to unjam the jammer by blowing it up (Which would be a risk). -One Empire falls another riseshttp://myanimelist.net/signature/EuroSubstance.png http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/os/type/2/ghostlysubstance.png
Admrial Joyce Posted November 16, 2005 Author Posted November 16, 2005 Yes then your minimap goes black in the spot the jammer blocked. You'll then have to unjam the jammer by blowing it up (Which would be a risk). Yes but still. It would help if your outnumberd and needed to retreat or use it to spring a surpise attack. Also if you are the Rebels you could use it in an ambush. http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4305/cap2073na.pngTime to do some damage.
Ghostly_Substance Posted November 16, 2005 Posted November 16, 2005 I was going to say that but got side tracked lol. -One Empire falls another riseshttp://myanimelist.net/signature/EuroSubstance.png http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/os/type/2/ghostlysubstance.png
Admrial Joyce Posted November 16, 2005 Author Posted November 16, 2005 Perhaps TIE scouts & A-Wings could be used for showing the hidden space. Alsoperhaps you can disable the Jammer with an Ion Canon from a Y-Wing or other ship. http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4305/cap2073na.pngTime to do some damage.
Ghostly_Substance Posted November 16, 2005 Posted November 16, 2005 Yes but dont forget about anti-air placement at the Jammer (if we are talking about a tower with a ball on it) and also having tons of artillery units to shoot back at the other Arty units or attacking forces. -One Empire falls another riseshttp://myanimelist.net/signature/EuroSubstance.png http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/os/type/2/ghostlysubstance.png
Admrial Joyce Posted November 16, 2005 Author Posted November 16, 2005 Yes but dont forget about anti-air placement at the Jammer (if we are talking about a tower with a ball on it) and also having tons of artillery units to shoot back at the other Arty units or attacking forces. Maybe you can send a droid or a sensor probe to let you see the hidden area quikly. http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4305/cap2073na.pngTime to do some damage.
Megajames Posted November 16, 2005 Posted November 16, 2005 Wait a minute. When the Falcon hid behind a ISD in ESB. The captain said no ship that small could have a cloaking devise. Darth Mauls sith intercepter had a cloacking device, so there were clocking devices way befor ANH, and plaply knew about them Evacuate, in our moment of triumph. I think you overestimate their chances. Please can you post a comment on My clone story, in fan fiction. http://pff.swrebellion.com/index.php?topic=2306.0 (\_/)(O.O)(> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination
Admrial Joyce Posted November 16, 2005 Author Posted November 16, 2005 Wait a minute. When the Falcon hid behind a ISD in ESB. The captain said no ship that small could have a cloaking devise. Darth Mauls sith intercepter had a cloacking device, so there were clocking devices way befor ANH, and plaply knew about them Thats already been said. Anyway please stay on topic. http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4305/cap2073na.pngTime to do some damage.
Zer_Teron Posted November 16, 2005 Posted November 16, 2005 You can use cloaks in hyperspace, its in one of the Hand of Thrawn Duology. You have to rely on couriers to see what is happening around you, which is kinda suspicous to the enemy http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3488/zersigef1.jpg
Admrial Joyce Posted November 17, 2005 Author Posted November 17, 2005 You can use cloaks in hyperspace, its in one of the Hand of Thrawn Duology. You have to rely on couriers to see what is happening around you, which is kinda suspicous to the enemy Well you could do that but as you said it would look suspicous. Anyway i do not think Cloaking Devise's will be used that much. They are too expensive and vaulble to use on an entire fleet. Maybe one ship but not a fleet. Radar Jammers would be much better and would help some of your tactics in the game. http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4305/cap2073na.pngTime to do some damage.
Zer_Teron Posted November 17, 2005 Posted November 17, 2005 About the only way Cloaked ships could be used to attack, is if you had a Force-trained individual keeping rack of their minds. http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3488/zersigef1.jpg
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