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Should Lucas have used already established Predecesor Starships? (Read post first)  

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  1. 1. Should Lucas have used already established Predecesor Starships? (Read post first)

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Here's an intereasting thing I was thinking about the other day. Before episode I, when it was just the orig. trilogy in the flight sim games and novels they had quite a bit of ships that were the "prototypes" or predessors of other star wars ships. Such as the Z-95 head hunter (X-Wing) or Victory Class Star Destroyer (Imperial SD). Now the question is... in your opinion do you think Lucas made a mistake in not incoroporating ANY of them in the prequel? I mean he really didnt add any of these already established starships to his prequel.

 

Now maybe he didnt use them because they were EU material. Though you cant say that because Lucas did use some major EU material in making his prequel. What is one of them?, you may ask... well Coruscant. This planet was invented by Timothy Zahn in his trilogy of novels, the Thrawn Trilogy.

 

So what do you think he should have used the already established ships? or are the newer ones better?

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Well, most of them were EU creations.

 

However, the VSD was his (or rather, his emploees, as he just approves what is used and not :P ), and was originally to be starring as the ship we see in the opening scene of ANH.

 

So I'm abit dissapointed that that one wasn't even included, yeah.

 

But, George does what George wants. :)

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it would have been cool to have some early pre later trilogy ships in but he sort of did it already. although we didnt see many warships in 1, an a little in 2 it wasnt uuntil 3 then we saw the ships really take on the later trilogy likeness.
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However, the VSD was his (or rather, his emploees, as he just approves what is used and not :P ), and was originally to be starring as the ship we see in the opening scene of ANH.

That's a nice piece of star wars trivia for ya :o I really never knew that, I thought it was a created by EU. That would have been sweet to see that coming after the Tantive, but the ISD did the job perfectly well itself.

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I like the new ships. Nothing against the Vic or Z-95 , but the Venator and ARC do look better. And I do like the that there are more ships added to the star wars universe.

 

and Timothy Zahn didn't invent coruscant, Lucas did. Was in his original draft of star wars, but he never gave an official name, just "Imperial Center". Zahn just gave it the name Coruscant and it stuck.

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But Zahn still made Coruscant. Lucas may have made the, "Imperial Center" but Zahn gave it a name and a better description. And Lucas used the name and many aspects from Zahn's novels.

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There WAS a VSD in the prequels -- when the DVD comes out, look at the Imperial Starship that Palps, Vader and Tarkin are on when we see the Death Star being built. The cruiser is a VSD, IMO. It is definetely different from the Venators that are escorting it. Only logical assumption is VSD, but we won't know for sure for a couple of weeks, I suppose. And because both sides in the Clone Wars already had distinctive visual styles, putting something so similar, like a Z-95 in, was unlike putting the ARC-170 in, which was not a modified X-Wing/Headhunter, but only resembled it.
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There WAS a VSD in the prequels

I don't think so.... I think that was just anouther example of a ship that was newly created. But we wont know until the DVD comes out.

 

EDIT: Well lookie what I found on Starwars.com! It isnt a VSD at the ending of the ep. III. Here's a pic:

 

http://tinypic.com/egbl88.jpg

 

I found this while searching the TV spot Ads. Here's a link to watch it yourself:

 

http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/release/trailer/endofwar.html

 

As far as the ARC-170 that is an obvious pre-Xwing fighter. It is even made by Incom, same makers as X-wings.

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I don't have the book handy but i think that the Z-95 headhunter was mention in the Episode 1 Book. Of course its been a few years since i read it but i'm fairly sure that it was in it. Plus i believe that is the Z-95 engines were used in Anikans Pod Racer. Other wise i like the ships used in the movies, the only thing i don't like is twenty odd years between the trilogies the ships don't seem to advance much, in fact it looks like technology regressed...but thats what happens they make ep 4, 5 & 6 before you make 1, 2, & 3.

 

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the only thing i don't like is twenty odd years between the trilogies the ships don't seem to advance much, in fact it looks like technology regressed...

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lol I agree with you there. The Emperor must be a technophobe lol. He wanted to rid the galaxy of the Senate, Jedi, oh and did I mention your everday microwave?

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Other wise i like the ships used in the movies, the only thing i don't like is twenty odd years between the trilogies the ships don't seem to advance much, in fact it looks like technology regressed...but thats what happens they make ep 4, 5 & 6 before you make 1, 2, & 3.

 

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Look at KOTOR, their technology isn't to far regressed from the movies. 4,000 years. Some galaxy hit a technology plateau....

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Look at KOTOR, their technology isn't to far regressed from the movies. 4,000 years. Some galaxy hit a technology plateau....

 

I didn't like that fact either...but that may because Bioware want to make sure that it kept a whole Star Wars fell to it...Although a technology palteau is possible. We will eventually get there with our current technology...theres only so much they can cram into a signal computer chip. Currently we double our personal computing speeds every 18 months, eventually that will level off.

 

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The v-wing from the movie reminds me very much of a z-95, the databank says it is a combination of a-wing and tie, which i kind of see

 

http://www.starwars.com/databank/starship/z95headhunter/img/eu_bg.jpg

 

http://www.starwars.com/databank/starship/vwingstarfighter/img/movie_bg.jpg

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