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I could be biased since Luke is by-far my favorite Star Wars character (yes, even above Thrawn!).

That's borderline sacrilege. I like Luke as well, but Thrawn is the better character.

 

Anyway, to post on topic I will say that Hayden sucks and Ford is awesome.

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With regard to Maul and Grievous, I understand that this doesn't qua;ify as acting... I was merely stating that their characters hadn't enough lines imho...
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Niether character had enough lines or any devlopment, both of which could have improved the movie tremendously... And I can see your point, Thrawn, saying "At last. We will reveal ourselves to the Jedi. Woo." Was kinda Hayden Christianson-esqu. Surprising given that the same actor was Toad in the movie X-men and pulled off the part quite well... Still, while the Grevious fight scene was pretty lame in my opinion, the Maul fight scene was pretty damned awesome, if only for its being so much longer... And Maul's being so much cooler looking than that tin can :roll::wink: Honestly, nothing more annoying than to hear him yell out, "WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT'S THE SITUATION?!?!?"

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So, overall I think it's safe to conclude that Hayden is the weakest actor, any objections?
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I'll drink to that!

 

Yeah, but you'll drink to any occasion or thought, so it really doesn't count for much :wink: So, yes, this has turned into Hayden bashing...

 

I'm sure that if he were here he would tell us how resentful he is of our attitude toward him... in a monotone.

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I'll drink to that!
Me too, cheers!

 

I'm sure that if he were here he would tell us how resentful he is of our attitude toward him... in a monotone.
I would probably be too drunk to care... :lol:
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I'll drink to that!

 

Yeah, but you'll drink to any occasion or thought, so it really doesn't count for much :wink: .

 

 

So what if I drink to Hayden bashing, my dog, the moon, that lovely pastel-green armidillo named Hank that always comes around to say "hello" when I'm cold, frightened, and alone...

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Ewan MacGregor's transformation into Alec Guiness was without a doubt the best job done in the prequels. Jake/Hayden makes me cringe. Natalie was even bothersome at time (though always hot!). Samuel L. Jackson, however, was great.
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I think this entire argument is somewhat wieghted against the younger crew. Ewen, as an experienced actor, has said he thought it was hell performing infont of so much blue backdrops. How the hell were Natalie and Hayden, without his experience, supposed to shine?

 

The fault lies with the director and producer for any misgivings of performance. Natalie at least is a brilliant actor on account of Leon at least, and Hayden didn't seem that bad if you're not comparing him to what i've just said and the experiance of the actors he was working along side with. Just my five pence on the subject.

 

Thank flob Tom Cruise didn't show up.

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Actually, GL considered him but it turned out that ever since het met Katie Holmes, he couldn't stop laughing, so GL deemed him too happy for the part of Anakin... :lol: Edited by Scathane
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I saw him in Shattered Glass and wasn't very impressed. His "acting" seems to be just as bad in it as it was in Episodes II and III.

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I saw him in Shattered Glass and wasn't very impressed. His "acting" seems to be just as bad in it as it was in Episodes II and III.

 

Fair enough dude, I forgot to point out that I haven't actually seen Hayden in anything else. Perhaps if I had, and had the benefit of evaluating his performance compared with non-SW stuff, I might have a different view.

 

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Yeah me too Thrawn. There's a point in the movie where everyone is against him and he's supposed to be really upset but you wouldn't know this on account of him operating in binary code.
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I just think everyone is making to big a deal out of it. I actually like both prequel Anakins. Padmé in Episode II was pretty bland. So was Leia in Return of the Jedi ("But these are my friends." I mean, they're about to COOK them and that's ALL the emotion you can summon up?) Luke whined his way through the movies, that got old after ANH. Han was good, and maybe it's my youth, but the whole girl falling for the scoundrel bit got old about twenty years ago (which, I guess, would prove that it's just my youth). Mon Mothma in RotJ was pretty weak, but then again, she had about two seconds to convey her importance.

 

Mostly, as far as the prequels go, I blame Lucas. Directing is his worst skill. The scripts wouldn't have come off half as bad if they had a decent director.

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...When was the last time you watched the prequels, Zehn? I don't know about you, but I was laughing my head off at the "No! NO! No, mom, no!" scene in which Hayden, rather than not acting, overacted so much that he looked like more of a tard than he already was. "They're like animals! And I slaughtered them... Like animals!" And before that there was the infamous, "Anakin, stay in the cockpit!"

"But I..."

"... Stay in the cockpit!"

And "Now this is pod racing!"

 

I actually had a site devoted to bad lines in Star Wars movies called Crazy Bantha... Unfortunately the school refused to post it- they were afraid of getting sued, and no matter how many times I told them that they could only be sued if we were making a prophit, nobody believed me... Anyway, yes, the lines are horrible and delivered horribly... Why in the world do we all even like Star Wars, come to think of it? :lol:

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While I'm not defending anyones actings, I must ask, how often do we get as dramatic or emotional as we see on TV or in the movies? I mean, honestly, I never get that worked up...ever. It's ALWAYS over acting because NO ONE acts like that in real life. But maybe it's just me.

 

Now, as far as the whole "No! NO! No, mom, no!" scene goes, he WAS asleep and therefore has a pass from me on that one. And as I said, it was mostly the director (AKA George Lucas) who couldn't get the performances out of the actors. I've seen Hayden in Life as a House and he wasn't that bad, not Oscar-worthy, but how many performances in any of the SW were Oscar-worthy?

 

Lastly, I don't know about you guys, but I only watch Star Wars for the story and escapism, not the acting.

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So was Leia in Return of the Jedi ("But these are my friends." I mean, they're about to COOK them and that's ALL the emotion you can summon up?)

 

I don't mind the lack of emotion because it shows her as being calm and in control of herself, you know those leader characteristics. Also, her getting supremely angry would have been retarted, or her doing a dramatic, desparate "NOOOO" type line would have been idiotic as well.

 

As for Hayden... Like I said, you can't act when you operate in binary code.

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So was Leia in Return of the Jedi ("But these are my friends." I mean, they're about to COOK them and that's ALL the emotion you can summon up?)

 

Lets not even start to criticize the original trilogy. If the acting of the originals had been anywhere near as horrible as the prequel trilogy than the movies would have never found the fanbase they have now. ie. No swrebellion.com to have this lame discussion.

 

The only criticism I can dish out is to Georgy boy himself... WTF is my DVD edition original untouched unbastardized theatrical release of Star Wars?! I don't want your SPECIAL FABROUCASTICALMADICOUSFANATICALSPECTAULARDICIOUS VERSIONS!!!

 

Sorry for the rant... drank too much vodka tonight

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