Texas_Fett Posted January 28, 2004 Posted January 28, 2004 Okay, this subject is just too confusing to bear. I've been trying to find definitive information on the types fo Mon Cal cruisers and their functions. I've wanted my Rebel fleets to be primarily made up of Mon Cal ships rather than just the single "Mon Cal Cruiser" in the original game, meaning that I've changed the Dauntless Cruiser to the MC-90 and I've also included the MC-40. I'd also like to replace the CC-9600 and the CC-7700. Well, then I saw Mask's wonderful MC-80b model, inspired by the Mon Remonda, and I thought I'd try to figure out a place for it. But, as the Bard would say, "there's the rub". Starwars.com claims that Home 1 was an MC-80, not an MC-90, it doesn't specify what the "anonymous winged Mon Calamari Cruisers" are, and is completely useless in differentiating between the other types. I've found info on the MC-40, but everything else is so contradictory (fan sites, XWA encyclopedia, etc.) that I can't even come up with a decent description, much less justify the presence of more Mon Cal Cruisers than I already have (essentialy the "Light" MC-40, the "Medium" MC-80, and the "Heavy" MC-90). The theforce.net's technical commentaries are of little help in this area, also. Anyway, my point is that I am no scholar of Star Wars, and I was wondering if this confusion regarding the Mon Cal's was the norm, or if I'm just looking in the wrong places for information. It almost seems that the lame excuse of "no two Mon Cal ships are the same" was created to cover up all the boneheaded information out there, despite the fact that of the approximate twelve Mon Cals at Endor there appear to be only two different types/classes (in which case I'm outta luck). Thanks all! Five of the Greatest Lines in the Star Wars Trilogy -"As you wish..."-"He's no good to me dead..."-"What if he doesn't survive? He's worth a lot to me."-"Put Captain Solo in the Cargo Hold"-"AaaaaAAaaaaaa!!" Fett's VetteThe Lyrics
SWR Staff - Executive Evaders99 Posted January 28, 2004 SWR Staff - Executive Posted January 28, 2004 The guide on all things "Star Wars" technical: SW Technical Commentaries Evaders99http://swrebellion.com/images/banners/rebellionbanner02or6.gif Webmasterhttp://swrebellion.com/images/banners/swcicuserbar.png Administrator Fighting is terrible, but not as terrible as losing the will to fight.- SW:Rebellion Network - Evaders Squadron Coding -The cake is a lie.
Texas_Fett Posted January 28, 2004 Author Posted January 28, 2004 (edited) Thanks Evanders. I'd looked them over in the past and was disappointed in the general descriptions (more detail on other Rebel ships would be welcome on the site, too). But I suppose if I want more detail then I'll just have to fork over the dough for the Essential Guide to Vehicles/Starships or look at some of the WotC data rather than mooch all the free stuff on the web. Edited January 28, 2004 by Texas_Fett Five of the Greatest Lines in the Star Wars Trilogy -"As you wish..."-"He's no good to me dead..."-"What if he doesn't survive? He's worth a lot to me."-"Put Captain Solo in the Cargo Hold"-"AaaaaAAaaaaaa!!" Fett's VetteThe Lyrics
SWR Staff - Executive Evaders99 Posted January 28, 2004 SWR Staff - Executive Posted January 28, 2004 Well as no two MC ships are alike, I doubt there's much of a standard description than what's available here: Search for MC at the Completely Unofficial SW Encyclopedia I'd check out the RPG game stats, as well as the X-Wing game stats. Evaders99http://swrebellion.com/images/banners/rebellionbanner02or6.gif Webmasterhttp://swrebellion.com/images/banners/swcicuserbar.png Administrator Fighting is terrible, but not as terrible as losing the will to fight.- SW:Rebellion Network - Evaders Squadron Coding -The cake is a lie.
the_mask Posted January 29, 2004 Posted January 29, 2004 I also got most of my infos from Adam Overholtzer's "complete guides".http://www.hyperjump.net/swguides/swguides.htmlThere's one for star destroyers and one for calamari cruisers. http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5183/animated9pn.gifhttp://img146.imageshack.us/img146/1778/reloadedbannerdu8.gifhttp://www.swrebellion.com/images/banners/rebellionbanner02or6.gif
Texas_Fett Posted January 29, 2004 Author Posted January 29, 2004 Whoo, that's a pretty comprehensive site! Combined with the info from the Technical Commentaries you end up with a pretty complete picture of 'em. Thanks guys! Five of the Greatest Lines in the Star Wars Trilogy -"As you wish..."-"He's no good to me dead..."-"What if he doesn't survive? He's worth a lot to me."-"Put Captain Solo in the Cargo Hold"-"AaaaaAAaaaaaa!!" Fett's VetteThe Lyrics
Slade Posted February 7, 2004 Posted February 7, 2004 Heres how i have them set up in my head. and this is after searching threw mon cal info for years.... Mc 40: The heavyest Gunship SW has ever seen. You look at any other gun ship in SW and you won't find one that has the heavy shields and armor this has. let alone one that carries a squadron of fighters. Dispite its little payload of onboard weapons... the ships isn't soemthnig to take lightly. MC 60: Not sure if they are real "real" or fandom... but i figger these to be missile/torpedo ships. But because the rebels didn't have much in the way of warheads these ships weren't seen much at all. Mc 75: Size of a Mc 60 it houses energy weapons. a inbetween of the Mc 40 and the 80s as it were. Mc 80: the real war ship. These had the redundentcy to take a great deal of punishment. Dispite the ships haveing only 40 to 50 turbo lasers and asorted other weapons ( rebels couldn't standerdise these much. they threw on them what they could. Falls in with the hard to repair part) they could put up a hell of a fight with just about any Star Destroyer. These ships could only max fireing solutions when performing broadside attacks. Mc 80A: A more standardised version of the mc 80. Weapon wise they all had the same load. But they were better place to allow greater fireing solution to the forward. They also held 4 fighter squadrons. ( one more squadron then the mc 80s) Mc 80B: A inbetween to be built till the Mc 90s were ready. These were further standardised then even the 80As. Thow the fire power han't changed the performance of the weapons did. statijectly place so the ship and unload massive damage in to just about any arch of fire. The weapons were able to fire more rapidly and deliver more of a punch. Thow the first few only held 4 squadrons of fighters later versions held up to 8. Mc 90: Your all round true Mon call war ship. These guys are more powerful then even the MK II Star Destroyers and can go head to head with MK IIIs with no problem. These from the start held 8 squadrons of fighters. These will see service in the NR for a long time to come. Mc 100? (Viscount Star Defender): these are the SSDs of the NR. They are said to be more powerful then the empires SSDs but have a lower payload of weapons ( throw great deal more then any other NR war ship) This sujests that the weapons onboard are the most powerful the NR could get ahold of. These ships came to being when the NR finaly realised that the bad guys will always come after them with some sort of super weapon or super ship that could lay waste to full fleets with little more then a fart. These ships were ment to take on those weapons. Thats what i sermise.... want greater detail.... look this stuff up on your own.
ElvisMiggell Posted February 7, 2004 Posted February 7, 2004 Mc 100? (Viscount Star Defender): these are the SSDs of the NR. They are said to be more powerful then the empires SSDs but have a lower payload of weapons ( throw great deal more then any other NR war ship) This sujests that the weapons onboard are the most powerful the NR could get ahold of. These ships came to being when the NR finaly realised that the bad guys will always come after them with some sort of super weapon or super ship that could lay waste to full fleets with little more then a fart. These ships were ment to take on those weapons. What a great description! I think generally i'd agree with your whole post there. Elvismiggell. Strike me down and i will become more powerful than you can ever imagine... Nu kyr'adyc, shi taab'echaaj'la Not gone, merely marching far away
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