March 26, 200620 yr Well, doing some research for ROR and I decided to hunt down some more information on the Broadside. I am not pleased by the results! The only reference material I've found is from the star wars databank and frankly it STINKS! http://www.starwars.com/databank/starship/broadsidecruiser/index.html See what I mean. Lets look at the concept art for the broadside, shall we?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/Broadside.jpg Hmm... 40 missile tubes? Nope, just 3 tubes.500 meters long? No, try 55.2 Turbolaser Emplacements? Maybe, those two round humps on the side of the ship, more likely lasers then turbolasers though. Dumb Star Wars DATABANK! Forum and RPG Membership:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsTC.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsRPG2.jpg Signature:Sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from Magic. -Arthur C. Clarke
March 27, 200620 yr You cannot trust the SW databank for ANYTHING. You can get heavily edited and true results from Wookiepedia. LINK HERE!!!!!! http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a245/loverdog/pffuserbar1.jpghttp://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i276/At-At_controller/leetspeak4cz1jr.gif
March 27, 200620 yr Author No kidding... unfortunately its one fo the few sources for information on the new ships and as far as I can tell, every single one of them is wrong. For example, the databank says that the Tartan class Cruiser has only 20 laser cannons... Okay so thats almost exactly the same amount as is on a lancer... Here's the problem. 1. The lancer is 200 meters long, the Tartan is by my estimates 300 meters long and by the estimates of Star Wars Databank 600 meters long. So the Tartan is significantly under gunned for a ship its size. 2. Clearly visible on the game model is an immense cannon on one side of the forward hull, while it could have been a sensor system the fact that a muzzle for one of the hardpoints is at the tip makes this unlikely. It has to be turbolaser, and probably a big one, almost on the same scale as the side guns of an ISD considering its size. Forum and RPG Membership:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsTC.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsRPG2.jpg Signature:Sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from Magic. -Arthur C. Clarke
March 27, 200620 yr Like Cyclone says, USE WIKIPEDIA FOR EVERYTHING!!!! :o "The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some would consider to be unnatural."- Darth Sidious http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/2268/tfomegag25vz.jpg
March 27, 200620 yr Author Unfortunately even Wookieepedia has its limitations. No one has made a page for the Broadside class yet, and the Tartan class page uses the Star Wars Databank as its only source. Forum and RPG Membership:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsTC.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsRPG2.jpg Signature:Sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from Magic. -Arthur C. Clarke
March 27, 200620 yr Just do what I do....Cry and Ignore the new units.... http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/knivesdamaster/tags/sith_omguserbar_member.jpg
March 27, 200620 yr Author LOL Actually the Broadside looks pretty cool when you scale it to its proper 55 meter long size (Which makes it about as big as the falcon) and the Tartan fits pretty well into the universe, you can see why it never saw a lot of service too. A 300 meter long ship with one turbolaser and twenty laser cannons seems more of a waste of credits when a smaller ship could fit the same role of antistarfighter patrol ship. I guess thats why the imps dumped it when the lancer came out. Forum and RPG Membership:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsTC.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsRPG2.jpg Signature:Sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from Magic. -Arthur C. Clarke
March 27, 200620 yr Unfortunately even Wookieepedia has its limitations. No one has made a page for the Broadside class yet, and the Tartan class page uses the Star Wars Databank as its only source. Ummm...yes they do. I edited it yesterday so it says 55 meters instead of 500. I mean, if it was five hundred, surely it would have like, gian t cannons..and more missiles...and...I dunno, Spikes! http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a245/loverdog/pffuserbar1.jpghttp://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i276/At-At_controller/leetspeak4cz1jr.gif
March 27, 200620 yr Author Well, when you tried to edit it they must've changed it back. I just edited it myself, and hopefully they won't trash it. Forum and RPG Membership:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsTC.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsRPG2.jpg Signature:Sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from Magic. -Arthur C. Clarke
April 2, 200620 yr 1. The lancer is 200 meters long, the Tartan is by my estimates 300 meters long and by the estimates of Star Wars Databank 600 meters long. So the Tartan is significantly under gunned for a ship its size. maybe thats why it was replaced but i totally agree. databank is @^@#@3 Explicit deleted Wiki isnt exactly reliable either.. .. it depends.. sometimes yes.. sometimes.. eh.. :/ we just have to actually search for information we want.. :/. .damn http://www.swgbex.com/sig.jpgHehe IA 2 venator
April 2, 200620 yr You can trust Wookieepedia for information. They have an extraordinarily strict canon policy. In fact, that's probably the reason your edits were changed: they don't appear in an official source--yet. I would always use Wookieepedia above the Databank, or regular Wiki. "God, I love complexity." -Stellar_Magic
April 3, 200620 yr They should rename wiki pedia.. or even wookie pedia if we cant take wiki..we should rename it The archivesorThe Holocron well i have never heard of that rule but then again i dont post anything so i woulnt know. I guess since soo much of starwars is fan made .. http://www.swgbex.com/sig.jpgHehe IA 2 venator
September 30, 200620 yr remember that WIkipedia is a publically edited encyclopedia so you cant trust everything on it. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/Admiral_Antilles/Thrawncopy.jpghttp://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3269/pffuserbar2globalmodnx9.jpg I Support the Resistance!
September 30, 200620 yr While you can't trust everything, they are strict about vandalization and misinformation and things like that. Wookiepedia is even stricter, as they WILL change things to current canon if it is wrong. Like for instance, I tried to correct the Broadside's length back in the day...(holy crap it's in this topic!) And they corrected it. They're good on this stuff, you can trust them. http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a245/loverdog/pffuserbar1.jpghttp://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i276/At-At_controller/leetspeak4cz1jr.gif
October 1, 200620 yr I agree that Wookiepedia is probably the most comprehensive database of canon information available. Databank's problem is that there are so many "canon" sources these days; books, movies, etc. that "the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing". Wookiepedia tends to state all conflicting information (when there is some) and what sources it came from so the reader can draw their own conclusions in some cases. http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m83/qalsip/zak1_demo.jpghttp://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/sf/type/2/zaknaril.png
October 1, 200620 yr thats about right for wikipedia. i have found wiki as a good source of info when i need it on fan fiction and canon. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/Admiral_Antilles/Thrawncopy.jpghttp://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3269/pffuserbar2globalmodnx9.jpg I Support the Resistance!
October 8, 200620 yr fan fiction and canon. what else is there? my EAW online screen name [PFF]HAdoken13
November 8, 200619 yr lol the EU it doesnt have much on that. it has most but some is incomplete. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/Admiral_Antilles/Thrawncopy.jpghttp://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3269/pffuserbar2globalmodnx9.jpg I Support the Resistance!
November 14, 200619 yr I agree i go their to learn more about the expanded universe since starwars.com seems to lack alot of info. http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a245/loverdog/pffuserbar2.jpg
November 24, 200619 yr Funny thing is that the Databank is still wrong even since march -One Empire falls another riseshttp://myanimelist.net/signature/EuroSubstance.png http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/os/type/2/ghostlysubstance.png
February 11, 200719 yr its always been wrong and those who go there to enhance there EU knowledge the best way to do that is the read the EU books. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/Admiral_Antilles/Thrawncopy.jpghttp://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3269/pffuserbar2globalmodnx9.jpg I Support the Resistance!
February 11, 200719 yr Well, yes, a blunder on the part of databack screws up wookiepedia/wikipedia since technically its 100% canon and official, no matter how BS and wrong it semms. Solution: screw canon, do what looks and feels right. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/kc1991/droid803sig.jpg"That was fun"
March 21, 200719 yr I never used the Databank from the day I found info about Battlefront 2. It had less info then what I already knew about the game.. http://myspacebrand.com/userbars/1/european.gifhttp://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8792/empireuserbarru2.pnghttp://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3138/rcuserbarrz9.pnghttp://img48.imageshack.us/img48/6922/sweawubanso8.pnghttp://Hungarian.Socialist.Party.WillBeDefeated.com/
April 11, 200719 yr i used to use it but then discovered that it was totally crude and for 10 year olds that don't have a clue about the EU normally. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/Admiral_Antilles/Thrawncopy.jpghttp://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3269/pffuserbar2globalmodnx9.jpg I Support the Resistance!
April 11, 200719 yr Its a filler unit. Keep in mind that the Marauder never had diamond borons either; they were used by corporate sector authority, and had four fixed turbolasers. http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/sf/type/0/captainartenon.pnghttp://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Sith_Lords_EaW/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=5554600Alternate Sitehttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a245/loverdog/pffuserbar1.jpghttp://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6296/sweawuban0cg.pngPetition for Obsidian and Bioware to work on Knights of the Old Republic III together! 3926 Total Signatures and counting!SW Fanon Wiki entry - Captain Artenon"A fake news show on fox should have real news!" -Louis Black, The Daily Show.
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