I think we ought to cut out the petro part. As much as we like petroglyph, with an official forum up and running at PF this place is basically useless. It's a ghost town. There are numerous small fourms that nobody knows about and it's the lucky forums that have something like game devs or strong modding communities to keep them alive and make them popular. Survival of the fittest, we've been out competed, we're going extinct.