i can explain how this bug works. basically before having any issues ive redone my machine completely. running winxp pro latest drivers everything install CDROM collectors edition, and bonus disk. before the game was huge online, there was like only 40 people on when i got my copy. i could play no problem. when the national coverage aired the commericals, this is when i started to have issues. when connecting to a game, you join into one, so for example, with a ping of 99. once you get in, you try to bring down your side to empire, because to even up the match, and it pops back. now also, you cant change your colors.. does the same thing. rumor is that is might fix it by having the host change the map and changing back, but that was a rumor from 1 person online, and i have had no luck. this issue also happens when i host a game as well, im unable to switch sides, nor color. now this is with a clean reinstall of winxp, all drivers. the only things that i might think is wrong that i was pondering were 2 things 1.) being that i registered before the big push for people trying to create online accounts, and my account got messed up on the end of gamespy. 2.) being that i own the collectors edition cd-rom version with the bonus cd installed. *** i have not tried to install the game regalar yet without the bonus cd, so that is my next step on tracking this sucker down, so everyone can play. now, if you just stay that side, and manage not to get kicked from the host, cuz you cant change sides to even the battles, you can join internet games with the side that it is stuck on, which is usually rebels... Go EMPIRE! n e ways, im preparing a video of the bug, and will post it here on this thread so we can get this sucker whacked. ok guys later