kazooki

Listen Grand, I can't be bothered quoting again...too time stressful, however, let me make my point in response to what your thoughts were. The new star wars movies have been a joke. This has been stressed by all asides from serious yuppies. It has cause myself and friends, to just give up on the movies.....they have been forever tainted, and I will, along with others, never look at the movies in the same view as I looked in the original films. Given the fact that it's well known that these movies have been just poorly done, the defense you present, defending these movies and somehow trying to paint a picture that these movies weren't that bad is contrary to how I feel, all my friends feel, and how generally everyone would feel about these movies. They are just bad pieces of film. You want to defend t hem fine, I'm not going to bash you for liking these movies, to each his own. What I wanted to say using examples earlier, was that these movies are jokes. Lucas targeted kids.....KIDS. There is no reason for a 28 year old guy like myself to go see them. I would have to be paid to sit through these 2 movies ever again. A coincidence here and there is fine...lucas tried to ram them down my throat and I didn't like it.....other didn't like it...hence the movies ratings. Don't know how you can defend the romance between Annie and Padme. I'm 28, I don't want to see, don't care to see puppy love..... It was a bad idea imo, which is shared by all my friends, and so many people I chit chat with on line. Nobody cares about them man, lucas blew it by making his movies around kids. Everything was goofy or immature, and again, I point to what the general people thought of the movies....poor. It's made fun of anytime it's brought up...Jar Jar binks, Boss Nass, Little orphan annie....blah blah blah....they make fun of it for a reason you know...... Don't throw quotes that are in contradiction of what jedi have always done. Kill evil. Now according to you jedis cannot kill? Sorry, if a guys trying to kill me, I sure am not going to use the force to pick up a pillar to try and scare him away....i think I'll just land it on him....mace didn't have a problem slicing someone's head off......how many has obi wan killed? What about luke laying the smack down in and outside of jabbas palace? The movies sucked bad man....I'm sorry you and others like lucas don't think so. I view them as a betrayal for starters, as he made the movies for 10 year olds and under when guys like us made him rich. I'm 28 not 10 ! The films were immature, far fetched disney productions. I know science fiction is not real, but what makes a film great is a way to capture the audience.....as if the people can relate and really get into the movie. Throwing in Jar Jar binks etc in these poorly done films compared to say Event Horizon.....or anything that isn't a kids production is non comparable. I would not be able to get into a movie like star wars and jar jar, but I could get into event horizon as one doesn't come across as a joke, the other does......realism is what really captures people in movies...just look at braveheart. They didn't have to have all the detailed violence in it, but they did....wonder why? Realism. Other science fiction films can capture the audience with realism despite being make belief. Fett kicked jedi but. That was stupid I think. don't tell me that Jedi were mediocre, as I don't iknow where you get your info from, ,but all jedi do is train...there is no "mediocre" jedi. I've read hundreds of comics, books and other resources on star wars.....trust me...they aren't mediocre. I don't know what else to say. NO disrespect to you personally, but your views are exactly the kind of thinking that ruins movies like this. By you calling star wars violent is a joke. Maybe to my librarian or a left extremist liberal but it was not in the least what I would call violent. Slicing robots isn't what I would call gruesome. Again, you supporting the things that made myself and others turn away from is giving support to these jokes of films that lucas has made. To sum this up...the movies are just way too immature for me. I'm sorry, but they are and everyone with common logic knows it. Oh ya, that ET announcer from the pod races was retarded at best. Come on, the guy was arguing with himself, and was only thrown in to make little kids laugh, or adults that are weird laugh. Lucas said in a special commentary before the films released that he made them for his kids. He could care less about what you or I think, but he wanted to give something to his kids. I rest my case...these movies are for kids....and I don't mean highschool kids. I'm talking elementary. I'm glad you liked them though Grand......

"A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defence, never for attack". Throwing a pillar at some one isn't really defence when they're running away (it's O.K. to push battle droids with the force, because they are attacking). Actually, there have been some studies done that show many older women prefer younger men. There must have been something about him she liked that allowed her to see past the cry-baby attitude (also, remember that we only see a fraction of events in the movies. There's pleanty of boring stuff we don't see). Yes, too many links... he should have left Obi-Wan out, I mean, he was in the original three, having him in these three is too big of a link... oh, and Yoda, why did he have to be in there? And Palpatine! He already played a pivotal role in RotJ! You know what, if he was really smart, he would have just changed the whole Star Wars galaxy, that way we'd have something completely fresh! [/sarcasm] Really, R2 being in the first (Ep. I-III) makes perfect sence. In ANH we hear that R2 says he once belonged to Obi-Wan. His role in the new trilogy solidifies this link. Furthermore, links back to the original trilogy prevents the "Old School" fans from feeling lost in the new story line. Familiar faces (or in this case, domes) makes them feel more comfortable. Not all Jedi are as powerful as Mace Windu, Obi-Wan or Yoda. Some (many) of them were mediocre. There was also that scene where that crazy guy with the purple glowing sword sort of decapitated Jango... Well, I suggest you take another look (I suggest you use the Scene Selection menue as you clearly suffer from motion sickness or epilepsy). You'll see that there are more species than you could shake a stick at (and some you woulnd't want to shake a stick at for fear of angering/accidently offering to mate with them). I thought the race announcer was an original character... but perhaps you'd prefer Domo and Pikachu reenacting a scene fromClockwork Orange, just to spice things up? So you're complaining that the new movies (save RotS) were targeting the same group of viewers as the original trilogy? What, were yu expecting softcore porn mixed with The Godfather's violence? I'd say a Sith Lord getting sliced in half, and a massive clone battle is violent enough for a Star Wars movie. Who woulda thunk that a Sci-Fi/Fantasy movie would be far fetched and ridiculous? I respect that you didn't like the movie, but I get the impression that you were expecting to see the same-old, same-old, hoping to re-live the "glory days" of the original trilogy. If so, you went to the wrong movies (maybe switch over to Star Trek, they're all pretty much the same). The title is no more/less creative than any of the others: A new Hope. Wow, I wonder if this movie has a happy ending? The Empire Strikes Back: huh, I bet some one will get attacked in this one. Return of the Jedi: I've got ten bucks that says Luke wins and completes his training. All of the titles describe what happens in the movie. Attack of the Clones is no different. This info written above me is just in poor judgement. Obviouslyou must be a 35 year old father of 2 that laughs at the efforst of Jar Jar, admire's little orphan annie, and likes to see an excessive amount of immature and far fetched ideas, even for a science fiction. Hey, how about we add in Jar jar binks's brother for the next one Grand admiral....... More to follow, lunch first, then I will gladly respond to your immature minded posts.

Judge Yoda by his size do you? And so you should not, as his ally is the force ! What's a pillar to the force? Screw the diversion, yoda had a guy trying to kill him and others, plant that pillar on him, and end of problems. no kidding no but he wasn't exactly han solo either was he. Lucas felt he had to do alot of things, and he didn't need to throw r2d2 in there. He was just trying to make way too many links which was completely uneccessary. Jango should not have been in the same league as a Jedi, case closed. Probably because I kept having to go throw up at how sick the movie was making me. All I remember seeing was a bunch of wookies running the republic. How about the space pod racer commentators, wasn't that cool lol. Et arguing with himself. Pleeeaaassse. Lucas didn't need to target kids. If he targeted those whom he should have, been a lil mature, the kids would have loved it, the same as we once did.............. No, I did not purchase aotc because i didn't like the movie at all. It was again, compeltely far fetched and ridiculous. I would never be able to tell my recent g/f, hey sweety, wasn't aotc an awesome movie ! But I do not like the name, it's kindof a rip off of that old novel and it could have had a lil bit more thought put into it, like his 2 bit movies.

Where did I leave off....oh yes, the contradictions, the coincidences stuffed down my throat. -An old sith beat up both Anikan (screetch) and then took on Yoda to a draw. YODA. What I really found retarded in that duel was when Yoda lifted some huge concrete pillar or something, and used the forced to move it and slam it against something while he was fighting hte dark jedi. I was always wondering why he didn't just land the thing on top of the dark jedi.......? To let him escape to cause trouble another day? Okkkkaayyyy. -How about when Jar Jar was fighting in the battle droid vs gungan fight. It was just so .....gay like Taylor Cranston. -How could Padme fall for a baby? -How about R2D2 being a medal winner for the Naboo people? How come lucas had to attempt to tie everything from the old series, into the new one's? WHY? Why was 3po made by Darth Vader? Why was R2D2 hanging with lukes mom? What a conisidence eh? I mean, r2 was almost lile Lukes uncle or something. LOL how about Jega fett. Who named them? Why did lucas have to make like son like father. Just because Boba was called Boba, doesn't mean Lucas HAD to name his dad Jega or whatever (been a long time since I've watched the 1st and 2nd episodes...and I only watched them a couple times) his name was, close to Jega though. Why such a stupid name? Also, did anyone notice how Jega was kicking hte crap out of the jedi until Mace whooped hyim? No wonder the jedi got whooped, they can't even beat up non force users let alone sith. Yes, indeed Lucas targeted kids. My question is why? Like someone said earlier, the originals were dark, desperate, sad, and dire. There was no moron like Jar jar in the 1st movies, the stormtroopers weren't a joke like the battle droids. (Roger Roger BAH) There was a lil humour sure, b ut it wasn't gay humour. Anakin as a teen was a bad tempered brat that had a temper tantrum on those sandmen. Also, what was with the republic being represented by a majority of aliens? I mean, all I saw in the big international republic hearings were wookies and et phone homes. And the one in charge was a wookie. GIVE ME A BREAK. I was about 8 when I had gone to the theatre to see return of the jedi. 1984 I believe. I was obviously younger for the 1 and 2nd movies and I loved them the way they were, without the gay humour , clowns and retarded far fetched things going on. (Midi Clorian count pfft). They didn't have to make it silly and immature then to be successful. And the people that made lucas's movies so great, are adults now, and yet he abandoned us. He didn't target those who made his flicks great, he turned his back and made a walt disney production for his kids. He tainted the movies with fake computer animated graphics from video games. You could see the signs coming when they edited the fight between solo and Gweedo. (btw, anyone know the relationship between solo and gweedo prior to that? It's kind of funny, Gweedo tried to steal solo's newly acquired Deck 2 power couplings for the falcon, which makes it a .5 hyperdrive, and the fastest hunk of junk int he galaxy). There was no reason for lucas to target kids under 10 in these movies. The kids would have loved it if he targed it for a mature audience, like the master pieces that Peter Jackson did on the lord of the rings series. Absolutely fabulous movies, and taco bell was still promoting those for the kids. Not to mention that kids of today, after 10 years old would be branded the biggest losers in school if they went around saying they liked lucas's new movies. Kids of the 80's and 90's, people for that matter cheered for the good guy. Kids of today, cheer for the bad guy. So if people didn't want to admit before they liked starwars in the glory days, can u ever imagine them admitting it today to there friends at school? PLEASE LOL. Lucas made these films for his kids period. And kids of today are more mature t han lucas is now. Kids like Grand theft auto, not Star wars pod racer. I just had to add to that article some of my biggest beefs. I personally have not even purchased the dvd's of either phantom or attack of the clones. When I heard that name, aotc, i just thought of the attack of the killer tomatoes and i cringed...again. I will do as little as I can to support lucas. I just love playing his games now as they still rock. Lucas should hire peter jackson to make shadows of the empire, and then the grand admiral thrawn series. Jackson would make us forget all about these hopeless movies, but I think he is our only hope. ::Takes deep breath:: Ready for diplomacy ! Later folks !

Okay, where to start. IMO, the phantom menance and attack of the killer tom, I mean clones, were a couple of jokes in the highest degree. You really couldn't do much worse than what GL did. He completely ruined star wars. It's true. How many of you actually thing of star wars the same as you did pre phantom menace? I used to read a ton of the books, I was a huge star wars fan, and then I saw the movie the phantom menance. Right from the start, something was wrong. Those who read the books should know that lightsabers are only used when combat is upon them. Well, if you think back, the doors closed indicating to obi and jin that there was a trap. I didn't see anyone attacking them at that point, so why were those dudes igniting their lightsabers when there was no enemy in site? As soon as I saw their lightsabers, they looked way way different from the cool look of Lukes when he first got it from obi won on tattoine. The biggest re asons I have been turned off the movies is because of all the contradictions, and far fetched coincidences Lucas was responsible for. Ie: One of the novells I read, Luke was searching for his mother, and she was supposed to be of a variant power of the force called the white current. Well, when I found out Padme was going to be lukes mom, that just ruined the book didn't it? How about the C3P0 series of protocol droids? I can't remember the sytems name, but that was a popular protocol series of droids being mass produced at this planet. It certainly didn't mention that a 5 year old named annie happened to be the arcitecht of the droid. Was lucas seriously trying to get me to believe that a 5 year old or so, was responsible for making c3po......did u guys see the mess of wires everytime 3p0 gets blown up? And Annie designed it? Ok Lucas, next. Jar Jar....well...nuff said. While I was at the theatre the Tuesday night at midnight show of the first night of hte phantom menace....there was this guy who was laughing at everything Jar Jar binks was saying. To be straight with you all, I wanted to fight him on the spot. Haydon the actor looks like this guy who used to date my sister, aka diaper rash, or screetch from saved by the bell. Darth maul was a mute, when lord vader was a big player in the success of the movies. I will continue but I'm being asked to work...can u believe that?

Hey all, Just signed up to this site. Been a veteran of this game for awhile, but I haven't played it in.....well, years. That being said, I just burned a copy for my cheap friend who finally got himself a computer and we battled on saturday for most of the day. (Were adults so a full day battle was not the norm, so it made it more enjoyable). Anyways, I had 1 system in one of the core sectors (north easern most sector). Planet was Wistril. Had 2 defensive shields there. He brings in his VSD, and decides to bombard my planet. I chuckled, as most of you can imagine his loyalty dropping sector wide and saving myself some hard diplomacy. Now, I had Dondona being sent there, and I didn't want to have him killed or captured (which happened anyways later on another sector's system) so I sent my friend a threatening chat message regarding his prized destroyer. LOL within a day, he moved it back to his planet (same sector). Later, he comes back, and again, bombards my planet. It was the funniest thing, the whole sector turned to the alliance. All I saw was Red in the loyalty bars. He was like "WTF" traitors and was completely purged from that sector. I have more funny stories, but should get back to work. Stay tuned for more ! Later guys, and cool site. Kaz

Yes, consider yourself lucky, I just was doing a diplomacy mission to Balfron using Jan Dondona, I sent Lando in to Balfron so he could take over and free up dondona to work on another system. Well, frigin imperials come in without any idea that I was even there working on the planet, took it over and I get the message Dondona has been killed. Lando escaped, but man I hate having my guys get caught or killed, specially my diplomats. CHEAP