what luck

[itoldu]

i was playing as the Empire it was HQ victory and i started with 4 con. yards on 1 planet and 3 shipyards on another.. and i still lost thats what happens to use n00bs.

[Imperator]

I wish I had that start in my game with Lord Vader!!!!

 

But seriously, what went wrong?? What was your strategy??? You must have had extremely bad luck to have lost with that start. Were you playing the AI or were you playing a human opponent?

 

Chris

[Ric]

Do you play the game allot, or just now and then? Because I can't even remember losing to the IA.

 

The first time I saw the end Movie when you lose is when I play whit two computer, and that was because I wanted to see if the end Movie was differend then when I win the Game.

[itoldu]

my strategy??? umm.. build a fleet and conquer. it was agianst a comp on easy.. like i said im a n00b and always lose. i play now and then. hope that answer your question. actually i didnt lose yet but im very close to it. no more planets and i lost all my troop training facitlys but i have a BIG fleet to big all i have left is 78 maitence points.

[Ric]

Then it will be over soon.

 

At the start of the game do you then build ships like for the rebels the Draudnaught and the Empire VSD and the SD, or do you build the smaler ships?

 

And send you fleets to planets that are occupied by the enemy, Take the planets wich would have joined you if their weren't any enemy troops on it. Destroye the troops and look what hapens.

[itoldu]

ok.. i have just played for a couple min. without saving and i have 1 SSD loaded w/ fighters, 7 ISD, 3 ISD II's, 6 VSD I's and 7VSD II's, 20 star galleons, 5 IEC(imperal escort carriers) and about 2O squadents of fighters on each planet. i would attack but im facing a hell of alot of rebel ships. my SSD is going around blasting the planets on the outer rim. and my fleet is on Defence protecting my shipyards. about 5 planet with ships yards has about 6 shipyards and 1 planet with 5 con. yards and no more free places to biuld.

 

i do realize with no mines my maitence will be low but when ever i play i get 0 mines and about 250 refiners,oh yea i usually biuld escort carriers and fighters until my shipyards are up and running the i crank out the bigger ships.

[Ric]

Start building Mines! Or you won't survive.

 

Instead of bombarding, assault a planet and send you diplomats to get the support to your side.

 

And if I my suggest you take one or more planets, and put about 10/14 shipyards on it. You can't build any faster then that. Do the same with constuction Yards.

 

And make more fleets, so you can attack more planets or enemy fleets.

 

Plus when you are playing against the AI you can predict where an enemy fleet will arive. When it doesn't assault but only boms the place it will return their about 2/3 times.

[itoldu]

oh ok thanks for the help

[Ric]

No problem, let me know if it works.

 

Have fun!!!

[itoldu]

in the same game i started to build some mines and my maitence is back up to 850. but i went to save it and i loaded it instead. will tell you if it works.

[Imperator]

Another useful tactic is to have a few squads of Imperial commandos lying around, so if one of your planets is assaulted and taken, sabotage those enemy troops and hey presto the planet goes into uprising ( as long as its loyalty is high...something you would have already sorted with your diplomats!!) and now the Rebel player is in trouble. Does he continue to send troops there??? Does he leave his fleet over the planet ready to be blown to pieces by the Empires Imperial Commando's??

 

As long as you keep up those sabotage missions the planet will revert back to your control with an added domino effect of +loyalty on all the other planets in the sector!!! Goodbye Rebel Scum!!!

 

Use the bombard facility carefully. Only bombard those weakly defended Rebel planets in wholly Rebel Sectors, because you dont care about their loyalty anyway. The Domino effect in the game can be a powerful tool in grabbing planets or reverting them to neutrality......ready of course for Piett, Darth ('I have altered the deal....Pray I dont alter it further' ) and all the rest to show them the error of their ways and convert to the Empires cause...... because the Empire brings many benefits to its subjects!!!!

[Ric]

Great to hear that it's working OK. If you ever need any help you know were to find it.

 

And Imperator is right about his tactic, I mostly do that in the beginning of the game, it gives great results, and you can winn the game pretty fast, unless you can't find Vader or the Emperor. And that's frustrating.

[Imperator]

'unless you can't find Vader or the Emperor. And that's frustrating. '

 

 

Well this is interesting. From the Imperial point ( my Imperial opinion that is!!!) of view it is a dangerous move to start using the Emperor early on on diplomatic missions. I usually have him recruiting like mad on Coruscant, safe behind LNRs, Gencores, espionage droids ( who are constantly doing missions on Coruscant ), and plenty of Stormtroopers....with of course several Imperial commados and Noghri Death squads in his back pocket in case the Rebels are foolhardy enough to try to get him . Vader is used to do diplomatic missions on important planets and the odd recruiting drive.

 

And damn....I cant work out how the quote function works

[Ric]

Your right about that, when I'm playing white the empire that's also what I do.

 

And the quote I never jused it, but I think you have to coppie it from below.

 

let's see if i'm right:

 

And damn....I cant work out how the quote function works

[Trejiuvanat]

And damn....I cant work out how the quote function works

.

 

I do! It's quite easy. You type

Then comes the quote. And then you close it typing [/ quote]. I left a space between the / and quote, for closing a quote successfully you MUST leave that space out.

 

I usually don't move Palpy of Coruscant. That Leadership bonus is quite useful, Vader on the other hand is a big boy and can go everywhere without worrying too much.

[Ric]

Oké, let's try it

 

I do! It's quite easy.

[Ric]

Allright, it's working, tanks for the tip Trejiuvanat.

 

and now for the Topic:

 

Sometimes I let Vader also do recruitment, this wy he can discover jedi's in the beginning of the game and start training them.

[XeqtR]

sabotage / espianage my friend.

[Ric]

sabotage / espianage my friend.

 

Do that the entire game, my friend.

 

Mostly with the Jedi, so they almost become the best of the best.

[Lord_La_forge]

There is no need to build fleets after all. Just sabotage, incite revolts and send diplomats... The whole game can be won without any spacebattles.

[Imperator]

Thanks for the tip Trej.....I've finally cracked it!!!

 

On topic:-

There is no need to build fleets after all. Just sabotage, incite revolts and send diplomats... The whole game can be won without any spacebattles.

 

I am afraid in my humble opinion I disagree with this strategy. For a start the antihesis to this approach is for the player on the receiving end of this covert onslaught is to build ALOT of espionage droids and troops on the planets that are being targeted and constantly do espionage missions on these planets. The more troops there are, they have the effect of 'slowing' down the mission ( ie it takes longer to complete ), and the chances of discovering (ie Aborting ) the mission are greatly increased .

 

When the nasty old saboteurs are 'discovered' the player has two approaches:-

 

a) If you are lucky enough to discover a mission that is actually operating on the planets surface, you then unleash your Imperial commandos and Noghri Death Squads etc ( preferably with a character leading them ) against them. The missions are now in serious danger of being killed or captured

 

b) If the saboteurs have not arrived ( ie they are still travelling to the target ), then you stagger groups of espionage droids to do missions on the planet to maximise the chances of catching them 'in situ'. Once they are discovered then go to a) above.

 

Of course this defensive 'counterattack' can be greatly enhanced by positoning ships, troops and fighters above the target planets. Another key to this strategy is to eject the enemy from a sector, so to operate this strategy they have to send their saboteurs on long missions from neighbouring sectors, again increasing their chances of detection as they travel through hyperspace.

 

While all this is going on, your fleets attack and capture key enemy planets

 

So in my opinion those fleets are VITAL to increase your Imperial hegemony and to crush those evil Rebels!!!!

Edited December 22, 2003 by Imperator

[Lord_La_forge]

Well formed Dude. I still say, you can win a game against the built in AI without any fleets (sadly).

You need a few (2-3) ships for some reconquering: if the AI captures one of your planets, it will place some troops on it, then it leaves. You go back, bomb down the troops, and you regained the planet. That increases your reputation on the whole sector, and after a few reconquering, you have got a core sector! All core sectors can be taken this way. And if you have the these sectors, you won the game. The AI will have only a few planets in the outer rim. Some transports with saboteurs could easily overtake those systems. Fleets only making things faster and more interesting. Not really vital.

 

Now, this wont work against a human opponent of course.

 

And, I don't like to do that. It's more fun to build large fleets, and battle with them in space .. I just experienced this in my last few games. You can know, what the next step of the AI will be. Sadly..

[Imperator]

Now, this wont work against a human opponent of course

 

Sorry I did not realise you were talking just about the AI

 

And, I don't like to do that. It's more fun to build large fleets, and battle with them in space .. I just experienced this in my last few games. You can know, what the next step of the AI will be. Sadly..

 

Well the solution to the AI's predictability ( its adequate, and thats being generous ) is to play multiplayer!!!! Thats when the games true horizons are revealed. Come and face the true power of the Empire!!!!!

[Lord_La_forge]

I usually play against my brother on LAN.

 

I don't really have time for playing online. But who knows? Maybe we could face each other in future

[Imperator]

I will look forward to that!!!!