Should Britain go to war with Iran?

[Grand Admiral Thrawn 889]

Ok then, since it been nearly a day since someone posted in here.

 

I was wondering what you all thought?

 

The Background is that Iran has a Nuclear Program which is suspected to have a Weapons Section. There is also the recent events over 15 British Sailors who were taken prisoner apparently 2 miles within Iraqi Waters. According to Media sources the Treatment the Sailors recieved was in humane. and the Statements made by them during their Captivity were scripted and forced.

 

My personal opinion is that this maybe the Spark which engolfs the world into another World War that is based in the Middle East this time and if this happens North Korea is going to attack places in East.

[Foshjedi2004]

I doubt it, the Queen and most of the Cabinent would block any plans to invade another country.

[Mikan Cyclone]

The President of Iran has said there should be no amnosity.  They were kidnapped because they were in Iranian waters, and, considering some were soldiers, the Iranians probably jumped to conclusions and kidnapped em.  I don't believe there should be a war with them.  Regardless of how violent I talk and joke around with, I'm a pacifist at heart.

[Emperor_Cheeseman]

I think Iran should go to war with britain, I have been waiting for a new war to happen, war is fun!

[Dr. Nick]

The last thing the world needs is another war.

 

With the US doing all those air drills near Iran, it makes us seem like a bunch of trigger happy hicks...

Britain is smarter than that I hope

[Guest]

every one should just withdraw and leave them alone, until we catch scent of actual nuclear weapons.

[Empireftw]

The thing is we'd rather that not find out they have nuclear weapons with them threatening us with thier nuclear weapons nuclear weapons or even launching them at us.

 

Not saying we need to start another war but we shouldnt just let them have free run or we could find out too late.

[Guest]

I suppose that is sound reasoning. But then the USSR had lots of nuclear weapons for years and none were ever launched at anyone. But then again Iran is being run buy a nut case. And those crazy arabs often take extreme measures to do anything

[Controller]

I suppose that is sound reasoning. But then the USSR had lots of nuclear weapons for years and none were ever launched at anyone.

that was more because the USA also had lots of nuclear weapons. if the USSR had launched a nuke then the USA would have done the same or the other way round ie. MAD(Mutual assured destruction).

[Grand Admiral Thrawn 889]

i agree with AT-AT Controller there, the only reason that the USSR didn't use its nuclear weapons is because the USA and NATO (N0orth Atlantic Treaty Organisation) could also have Launched against them. however with the place ment of Iran and the intervention of the United Nations; it is now not possible for a UN country to Launch weapons without its approval and the UN will never agree to it until Iran Launch an offensive therefore the 'old Mexican Stand off' like the COld war will not work now. And when Iran gains nuclear weapons, it can fire them without free.

 

Article 51 of the UN Charter.

Article 50

If preventive or enforcement measures against any state are taken by the Security Council, any other state, whether a Member of the United Nations or not, which finds itself confronted with special economic problems arising from the carrying out of those measures shall have the right to consult the Security Council with regard to a solution of those problems.

 

 

Article 51

Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.

 

These are the Articles that dictate Mutual defense and use of force against an agressor.

[Relentless]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGHty_S0TU0

[Emperor_Cheeseman]

what are you talking about GRAND ADMIRAL THRAWN889???????

 

a country in the UN can't launch nuclear weapons without it's approval??????? that is bogus, you need to do your research on the UN, it has almost no power at all. The US could easily nuke Iran and the UN couldn't do anything to stop them. The UN is a useless orgainization, it has no power, it has never really prevented any wars, take the vietnam war for example, the US went to the UN and asked to declare war on Vietnam, the UN declined the war decleration, but the US went ahead with it anyways, the UN is stupid

[Controller]

the USA needs the approval of the UN to launch an ICBM, but the UN has no power to stop the USA if they really wanted to launch said ICBM and the UN said no. what the UN needs is the power to punish a country if they go against them, restrict trade or something. at the moment all they can do is say dont do that, or kick the USA out of the UN(as if that will every happen)

[Empireftw]

Yeah as the U.S. just happens to be most of the UNs military power when the UN needs a job done they send a couple other nations troops and then they send a ton of US troops.

[Relentless]

USA, Russia, China and a few other nations (don't remember) in the UN have the veto right, so they don't have to care what the UN says.

[Emperor_Cheeseman]

yup, you are right, it is russia, china, usa, england (great britain), france, and duhhh...I think that might be it, but they have ultimate veto right, so it doesn't matter what the UN says, the US can do whatever it wants

[Saracen]

Which is why the terrorists have a problem with the Western world. Not saying I support what they believe in, in the slightest. But if you stand back, listen to what they have to say, you understand their primary problem. They know as well as any tom, dick or harry that the US a the big boys with the big guns, and that is a huge threat, so they'll do what they can to prevent the US from opposing their beliefs that America is a danger to the non democratic world.

 

But they don't understand the culture that if they are gonna blow us up, we are gonna retaliate. The problem with this world is that the Americans want a world of democracy and peace, and in order for the free world to live in this peace, anyone who doesn't believe in Democracy shall be punished by death. Ironically enough the terrorists believe the same for Islam. The result is a stand off that will now never die until one side wins this war by total annihilation of the other.

 

But since America decided to get big in their boots with interfering with countries that don't have sizeable armies for their own defence, terrorism from the east has become rife. The democratic world is scared of another Nazi Germany, they are scared of another cold war, so the result is a push for one world order if America and it's allies don't get their way.

 

As I said, I don't support or agree with terrorist ideals. But since September 11th, this is "World War 3" and America will not stop until all that opposes this superpower is destroyed.

[Guest]

kind of...

 

I think that everyone in the middle east was content until we broke up thier ottoman empire at the end of WWI. and of course, we they have all the oil. until some new cool energy source that can be used world wide is made, the middle east can just rot in their sand, cause we wouldn't need to put up with them any more, unless they start going crazy with nuclear weapons. Like they're starting to now.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn 889]

Well technically the Fuel exists that can counter the Oil its just that most things now run on Oil and the fact that our Governments are reluctant to give tax wavers to the Hybrid Cars that are now available.

 

I think that we should force the British and American Government to take the Drastic Action nessecary to save the planet and drop the Carbon Footprints we are leaving behind.