Re: Mod - SOTE (TBR)

[Nomada_firefox]

The Mon Remonda was made after the Battle of Endor (the earliest building of them) I think I read 1.5 years after the Battle of Endor. I got that info from the Force.net I think - read about it today

I read it on theforce.net.

an MC80b Mon Calamari Star Cruiser delivered to the New Republic following the Battle of Endor. It was placed under the command of Han Solo, and was used to battle the warlord Zsinj. Solo and the ship's Captain, a Mon Calamari named Onoma, pursued Zsinj across the edges of the Warlord's holdings, hoping to catch him unaware. Instead, they often led be Zsinj to a world he wanted for himself, but didn't want to expend resources to take. When the Mon Remonda pummeled certain facilities, it left them vulnerable to Zsinj's takeover. It was later destroyed in battle with the World Devastator Silencer-7 when the reincarnated Emperor Palpatine started his campaign against the New Republic. All hands were lost, but not before the Mon Remonda took out an Imperial-class Star Destroyer.

It happens on The Courtship Of Princess Leia and Xwing books and Dark Empire comics. I know because I have all them, I must say that I had many goodluck by find all them.

 

But good remember that Theforce.net is not the most exact information from SW Universe, to this web site there is not a MC85.

[jedi_consulor]

Well Wookiepedia describes the Home One as a MC80 Battleship, It doesn't mention an MC85 - however, I think its possible that the MC85 was named such in the models as to not confuse the model with the other MC80 in the game. I have to say that according to wookiepedia that's what they call it. Hey according to my Star Wars Visual guide they call it a Calamari frigate ?!

 

If you also check the article on the Home One on Wookiepedia it also has links to the Sister ships of the Home One - you will see either they have used those pictures of a Home One looking ship through lack of evidence to support what the other ships looked like - or its the latter that they all look the same. They were identical. If you have a ship that has a sister ship Take the Titanic for example - its sister ship follows the same designs as the original - perhaps with some minor differences. You just don't get a sister ship that looks totally different. Hence it would not be a sister ship - but an entirely different class of ship.

 

This is way off topic from the mod itself. Anyone got idea's or things they would like to see in the mod itself ? - The Home One and its sister ships argument is full of conjecture - for the sake of this mod the screen shot I posted above is the model for those ships. Whether its an MC80 Battleship or an MC85 Battleship Thanks for the feedback on this ut I don't think it's that easily resolved. My sources I generally use are places like the TheForce.net and Wookiepedia, it can be argued not anyone site is then 100% accurate, after all everyone has the own take on the EU and such.

 

You mentioned Dark Empire ? - I recall I have that in my collection too but when I say the earliest build date for the MC80-B was 1.5 years after the Battle of Endor - that came from two sources I'm happy with this information, and besides I said before this mod covers years from 0 ABY to +10 ABY

 

JC

[Lord_of_the_Sith]

The problem is the lack of one main official source for SW ships.

[Nomada_firefox]

Yes and lucasarts let change all info on their games, books and comics, but to them it is a Expanded Universe.

[jedi_consulor]

Hmm yes I totally agree. I think though the confusion over this is that I referred to the the Home One using an MC85 model ? - I think the model itself is not an MC85 in any case. probably Frankie had renamed them to avoid conflicts with the existing MC80 named model in game already..  :-\ in any case Wookiepedia probably has it right as being called an MC80 Battleship.

 

heck my Reference book calls Akbars ship as a Headquarters frigate. That comes from the Visual Dictionary source. they worked with Lucas Arts to makes those books.

[Lord_of_the_Sith]

I believe that the right model for the H.One id the original stock one.So a conversion of a similar ship would be the right one for it.

The problem around is the insertion of ships for the Expanded universe which cames mostly from books and comics which I believe have more freedom of interpretation than they should.

This mean that if me and JC will produce a new comic with strange new ships they will became material of work and nor Lucas or any other organ of control would ever say if they are in line with the main films.

[jedi_consulor]

I just added lots of new sound event files to the mod. Leebo's voice (Dash Rendars droid) and music event files too - all to bring the game to more of a SOTE feeling.

 

I remember the original in game Home One model and to be honest I didn't like there version of it. I didn't think it looks much like the home one to be honest. If you look at the Home One on Wookiepedia on their article - it doesn't sook much like the one we had in the game originally.

 

Anyhow, I'm using the MC85 model from Frankies mod. I like it - it even has hangars - looks great, I think people will like it ultimately.

[jedi_consulor]

OK, ! I have just been given a new model update for the Mediator, from Avenger I am going to be testing this out for him, but hopefully if its free of problems I'll update that model in this game with Avengers approval. The beta will be delayed I am afraid by another few days. I have still finishing up to do on the Xizor coding. Plus testing the new Mediator.

 

I have added new sfx files for different things in the mod and added more music for the mod.

[Lord_of_the_Sith]

Really nice JC!

[jedi_consulor]

New version of the Mediator (by Avenger)

 

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/drone_pilot/Mediator_damage.jpg

 

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/drone_pilot/mediator2.jpg

 

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/drone_pilot/mediator1.jpg

 

What do people think of it ?

[HK-47]

Very nice model, and textures. Look really very nice.

BTW, what's that ship behind the Mediator in the last screen? Another Mediator?

[jedi_consulor]

oh that, I built an MC104 as well to figure out the scale on these ships. Lord of the Sith should be helping me soon with getting the scales right. At the moment the ships are not scaled properly in the current beta. Only some ships have been done as yet.

[Foshjedi2004]

I always find that getting one unit the scale you want it to be then scaling the rest of the Units from it.

 

Legacy of War Start off with the ISD and scale everything from there.

[jedi_consulor]

Yes I have read about this.. Some other people were saying that too about the ISD - taking into account that the in game one was the right scale. Frankie and SMG both re scaled theirs though. I'm using Frankie's ISD's so I have to work out the scale from those new units I guess.

[jedi_consulor]

I have managed to get hold of the ship scale charts for the star wars ships - hopefully I will be able to start scaling the ships properly now. Prince Xizor now has abilities for this game that include being able to deploy Buzz droids, and Tactical bribe.

 

I will probably add the ability some where to build Virago Fighters too when Prince Xizor is in the game.

 

JC

[1upD]

But there was only one Virago, I thought...

Multiple Virago's are cool though.

Wasn't Virago Xizor's flagship?

And the Consortium added the buzz droids.

[jedi_consulor]

hmm I have seen pictures of SOTE where there are multiple Virago fighters..? - they were requested for the game when Xizor comes into the game - but instead you can build them after you build the Skyhook instead. that only buildable on two planets however. Oh the buzz droids were requested as an add on for Prince Xizor - as a special ability for space.

[Lord_of_the_Sith]

Hey JC could you send the charts of the ships?

[jedi_consulor]

wondered where you vanished to I'll send them asap

[Nomada_firefox]

hmm I have seen pictures of SOTE where there are multiple Virago fighters..? - they were requested for the game when Xizor comes into the game - but instead you can build them after you build the Skyhook instead. that only buildable on two planets however. Oh the buzz droids were requested as an add on for Prince Xizor - as a special ability for space.

Lately I have seen the virago fighter as Black Sun fighter but really the virago was only the Xizor fighter and it was unique.

 

Black Sun would be better with a Suprafighter or other pirate fighters.

[Foshjedi2004]

The Virago is a Single Ship.

 

The Class of Ship is the StarViper.

 

The Virago was a Customised version of the StarViper Fighter.

 

Better Shields and weapons

[jedi_consulor]

Lately I have seen the virago fighter as Black Sun fighter but really the virago was only the Xizor fighter and it was unique.

 

Black Sun would be better with a Suprafighter or other pirate fighters.

 

Thats a better idea. I'll change it to this then.. providing I can find a platform from where they can be built from I'll keep Xizor with his Virago though as it's a unique ship. The only reason I made buildable Starvipers or 'Virago' ships was because some one suggested the idea.

 

I think it would be better they had pirate fighters instead though as suggested.

 

JC

[jedi_consulor]

Current unit list:

 

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Shadow of The Empire Units List for Alpha build 3

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These units make up the buildable Land and Spaceunits in SOTE (this is not the final list - not complete)

 

 

Faction: Empire

 

 

Land Units to date

 

 

LAAT

 

E-Web Trooper

 

ATST MKII - Anti Infantry turret laser and Rocker launcher - Killer Hunter

 

Imperial Naval Trooper - Imperial ground base security Elite Guard

 

Imperial Red Gaurd (Royal Guard)

 

AT AT - with improved laser anti infantry anti Air

 

Pod Walker - buildable in GC*

 

AT TE - Buildable in GC*

 

Juggernaught with Rocket Launcher

 

Prince Xizor - Imperial Agent/Spy to the Emperor

 

Mara Jade - Imperial Agent to the Emperor

 

Bounty Hunter*

 

 

*Restricted worlds.- Restricted to structure being built

 

 

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Spaceunits To Date: Empire

 

 

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Victory I Class Star Destroyer

 

(In game Victory cruiser renamed to Victory II Star Destroyer)

 

Imperial Class Star Destroyer MKI

 

Imperial Class Star Destroyer MKII

 

Victory Class MKII Frigate

 

Interdictor Destroyer (dominator)

 

Imperial Strike Cruiser (replaces Acclamator Assault Frigate)

 

TIE Hunter

 

TIE Scimitar

 

Imperial Assault Gunboat

 

Prince Xizor (Virago) - Interceptor Frigate, and Supafighter (Blacksun)

 

Eclipse (Builable in GC) extra hard points added

 

IPV MKII

 

 

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Spaceunits To Date: Rebel

 

 

 

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Mon Calamari MC80-A

 

Mon Calamari MC80-A Variant

 

Mon Calamari MC90

 

Mon Calamari MC104

 

Mon Calamari - Mediator (renamed in game)

 

Nebulon B Frigate

 

Providence Destroyer

 

Recusant Frigate

 

Assault Frigate MKI

 

Outrider - Dash Rendar

 

Home One replacement with MC85 Battleship (MC80 Battleship)

 

E-Wing Fighter

 

K-Wing Bomber

 

IPV MKII

 

 

 

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Land Units To Date: Rebel

 

 

 

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Medium Anti Air tank

 

T3-B Tank

 

X-Wing Land

 

Y-Wing Land

 

K-Wing Land

 

A-Wing Land

 

Smuggler*

 

 

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Land Units to Date: Underworld

 

 

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Skiff Speeder

 

Swamp Speeder

 

R41- Starfighter Land version

 

Pod Walker

 

 

 

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Spaceunits to Date: Underworld

 

 

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R41 Star fighter

Toskan Fighter

IPV MKI

Cloakshape fighter

Smuggler*

Bounty Hunter*

 

 

 

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Misc Buildings

 

 

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Alliance Air Base

 

Imperial Landing Platform

 

Imperial Prison

 

Golan I - III Orbital Defence platforms

 

XQ I - III Defence stations

 

Shipyards Light - Medium - Heavy - Large

 

Orbital Space Port

 

 

End.

[Lord_of_the_Sith]

The best from the best JC! ;D

[HK-47]

Sounds good! 

Is the Victory Class MKII Frigate the frigate from Battlefront II?