Looking for a few good models

[scott2978]

Lancer Frigate

Carrack Cruiser

 

I downloaded several mods and the only model of the Lancer I could find was missing a lot of polys and had no death clone. Are there any decent models of these two ships out there that are already converted to EAW?

 

Thanks for any help,

 

Scott

[MonkeyBiz]

The Lancer is itty bitty. It's half the size of a Tartan. It doesn't have to have a death clone.

[Logan Felipe]

Someone put up a Lancer at EaW Files.

 

If you haven't seen it yet, you may want to take a look.

[scott2978]

The Lancer is itty bitty. It's half the size of a Tartan. It doesn't have to have a death clone.

 

The Lancer frigate in the "A Galaxy Divided" mod was not half the size of the tartan, in fact it was about twice as long as a Tartan. And, it had a lot of missing polys, including no engines at all. It was created as a Frigate (instead of a corvette the way it probably should be) in the SpaceunitsFrigates.xml file so it needed a death clone. Only corvettes and fighters (as far as ships go) in EAW don't have death clones. A frigate should have one, especially if it's as big as a Nebulon B the way the default scale setting for it is in AGD.

 

Sorry for ranting.

 

Now has anyone seen a Carrack cruiser model?

[DragonShadow]

Sorry, but corvettes have death clones. Fighters are the ONLY unit in EaW without a death clone.

[Vanguard]

Lancer Frigate Specifications are as follows.

 

Manufacturer: Kuat Drive Yards

Specification: Lancer-Class Frigate

Type: Heavy Starfighter/Shuttle Carrier

Length: 250 meters long

Weapons: 20 Quad laser cannons

Shield: Unknown

Hull: Unknown

Crew: 850

Top Speed: Unknown

Troop Capacity: Imperial stormtroopers

Affiliation: Imperial Remnant

Cargo Capacity: Unknown

Passengers: Unknown

 

Tartan Cruiser Specifications are as follows.

 

Manufacturer: Damorian Manufacturing Corporation

Specification: Tartan-class patrol cruiser

Type: Cruiser

Length: 600 meters long

Weapons: 20 laser cannons

Shield: Unknown

Hull: Unknown

Crew: Unknown

Top Speed: Unknown

Troop Capacity: Unknown

Affiliation: Galactic Empire

Cargo Capacity: Unknown

Passengers: Unknown

[DragonShadow]

Ok, the Tartan is NOT 600 m long (if it were, it'd be bigger than an Acclamator. ISDs are only 1600 m). ;D

[scott2978]

As all of us know the scale of ships in EAW is a factor of gameplay not realism. I'm not really concerned with the size of the model anyway because we have to make it however we want. What I am concerned about is a model missing a bunch of polys. So, is there anyone who knows of any other ones?

[DragonShadow]

The Tartan has a visible bridge viewport like a Corellian Corvette...it is NOT 600 m.

[Vanguard]

The Acclamator is 752 meters long. And yes the Tartan is 600 meters long. Cruisers are bigger then Frigates in most cases. Just because the SD is only 1,600 meters long, doesn't mean a cruiser can't be half as big.

[scott2978]

Not sure how many times I have to say this but

 

IN EAW SHIP SIZES ARE NOT REALISTIC, THEY ARE CHANGED FOR GAMEPLAY.

 

It doesn't matter how big a ship model is in EAW, you can make Corellian Corvettes the size of a planet and they will still have the same stats as a Correllian Corvette the size of a gnat. Ship size means nothing. If you want to make all your ships to scale, then good luck controlling those fighters. Or even seeing them for that matter.

 

Now maybe we can get off this side tangent about ship size and get back OT?

 

Has anyone found a usable model of the Carrack and/or Lancer?

 

 

Sorry for ranting.

 

Scott

[DragonShadow]

No.

 

Look at the design for the Tartan. It's clearly a corvette (and is a corvette in the game! HELLO?)

 

And btw, since Petroglyph CREATED the Tartan Cruiser, whatever size it is in-game is it's actual size, kapeesh?

[Vanguard]

No, remember Blockade Runners aren't actually meant for military use, which means they would be smaller then actual corvettes, so that would be their realistic size, further more if you want to complain about the size, talk to Wookiepedia. Further more Scott, we aren't discussing whether you agree with our realistic sizes, we are discussing both whether anyone has a model, which they don't, and if they do they either haven't seen this topic, or aren't going to share it. And then we are also discussing the real ship sizes which I mentioned before.

[MonkeyBiz]

There's a decent Lancer model floating around that I'm using. Then again, it's scaled to canon size, so really you couldn't tell if it's decent looking or not.

[Lord_of_the_Sith]

The problem of scale is a plague. It would be nice if Petro devs correctly scale the ships. Not to mention adding more hardpoints.

[Droid803]

Relistic scaling is a plague. It makes fighter so fricken tiny that they don't even need a model. You can't see otherwise.

[MonkeyBiz]

I have this mental image of a Star Destroyer taking up an entire screen, with hundreds of hardpoints.

 

And comparatively, the fighters are the size of gnats, next to an ISD. Given a length of 12.5m, and a 1600m ISD, an ISD is 128 X-Wings long. So yes, it doesn't matter what size they are. Just so long as they're there.

[Droid803]

I doubt we could make maps large enough to fit more than two ISDs then. There's a limitation on EaW's engine on how large a map can be...definately NO SSDs will fit.

[trauma]

i have no idea why so many people think scaling is so damn difficult.  there are many refs as to scale available. default scale in EAW is not correct obviously. so you take a ref point and go from there. yes the fighters are small but damn u can have hundreds without losing framerates and thats how small they are!!! i scale ALL my ships.  yea it takes a bit of work but its not that hard. people stop being so lazy. check your info b4 u complain. the real scale numbers are out there. use the good sources. scaling is NOT a plague. people who think they know what everyone else wants are the plague. ive done alot of work on my mod and yes scaling is part of it. whoop dee do.

[DragonShadow]

yeah. I scale everything based on the size of the ISDs in space and buildings in land. Fighters at that miniature size aren't too bad. They're really small, but you can see them...on low res I'm sure they're nothing more than a pixel, but I only play high-res...

[Mr.Crisp]

I have this mental image of a Star Destroyer taking up an entire screen, with hundreds of hardpoints.

 

And comparatively, the fighters are the size of gnats, next to an ISD. Given a length of 12.5m, and a 1600m ISD, an ISD is 128 X-Wings long. So yes, it doesn't matter what size they are. Just so long as they're there.

 

Gnats you say??  ;D

 

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a105/333Super/Gnats.jpg

 

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a105/333Super/Gnatss.jpg

 

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a105/333Super/Tiny.jpg

 

Oops Moon is inside the planet... I thought I fixed Kuat...

[Lord_of_the_Sith]

Hey that venator is awsome.

[Droid803]

Um....you know....thats the shipped venator....

 

And yes I play on low detail and realistic scaling lags the F*** out of my computer. DAMMIT PEOPLE. ITS A GAME, SCREW SCALING AS LONG AS IT RUNS SMOOTH AND YOU CAN FRIGGEN SEE EVERYTHING WITHOUT ZOOMING IN 1000000000 TIMES!!!!! (Or outwards likewise) I actually like how petro scaled the ships. You nitpickers friggin take a space shuttle to the Star Wars galaxy if you really like realism so much. STAR WARS IS NOT REALISTIC!

 

I'm sorry for the spam and the spazzin but you people fail to see an important fact: you are delusional. Who decided the scalings? Some random people. I doubt Lucas himself gave squat about how many meters a tartan is. He couldn't care LESS. And he fricken created the whole name Star Wars...

[Lord_of_the_Sith]

You mean it's the ship from the stock version?? Impossible I never saw the guns!

However scaling is ABSOLUTELY needed. Other games are scaled and looks awsome. EAW needs realistic scale.

[Droid803]

Well, I'm guessing its the stock version cause it really looks like it. Even how the bridge breaks off...