Stellar_Magic Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 Well, doing some research for ROR and I decided to hunt down some more information on the Broadside. I am not pleased by the results! The only reference material I've found is from the star wars databank and frankly it STINKS! http://www.starwars.com/databank/starship/broadsidecruiser/index.html See what I mean. Lets look at the concept art for the broadside, shall we?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/Broadside.jpg Hmm... 40 missile tubes? Nope, just 3 tubes.500 meters long? No, try 55.2 Turbolaser Emplacements? Maybe, those two round humps on the side of the ship, more likely lasers then turbolasers though. Dumb Star Wars DATABANK! Forum and RPG Membership:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsTC.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsRPG2.jpg Signature:Sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from Magic. -Arthur C. Clarke
Mikan Cyclone Posted March 27, 2006 Posted March 27, 2006 You cannot trust the SW databank for ANYTHING. You can get heavily edited and true results from Wookiepedia. LINK HERE!!!!!! http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a245/loverdog/pffuserbar1.jpghttp://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i276/At-At_controller/leetspeak4cz1jr.gif
Stellar_Magic Posted March 27, 2006 Author Posted March 27, 2006 No kidding... unfortunately its one fo the few sources for information on the new ships and as far as I can tell, every single one of them is wrong. For example, the databank says that the Tartan class Cruiser has only 20 laser cannons... Okay so thats almost exactly the same amount as is on a lancer... Here's the problem. 1. The lancer is 200 meters long, the Tartan is by my estimates 300 meters long and by the estimates of Star Wars Databank 600 meters long. So the Tartan is significantly under gunned for a ship its size. 2. Clearly visible on the game model is an immense cannon on one side of the forward hull, while it could have been a sensor system the fact that a muzzle for one of the hardpoints is at the tip makes this unlikely. It has to be turbolaser, and probably a big one, almost on the same scale as the side guns of an ISD considering its size. Forum and RPG Membership:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsTC.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsRPG2.jpg Signature:Sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from Magic. -Arthur C. Clarke
OMEGA Posted March 27, 2006 Posted March 27, 2006 Like Cyclone says, USE WIKIPEDIA FOR EVERYTHING!!!! :o "The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some would consider to be unnatural."- Darth Sidious http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/2268/tfomegag25vz.jpg
Stellar_Magic Posted March 27, 2006 Author Posted March 27, 2006 Unfortunately even Wookieepedia has its limitations. No one has made a page for the Broadside class yet, and the Tartan class page uses the Star Wars Databank as its only source. Forum and RPG Membership:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsTC.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsRPG2.jpg Signature:Sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from Magic. -Arthur C. Clarke
Foshjedi2004 Posted March 27, 2006 Posted March 27, 2006 Just do what I do....Cry and Ignore the new units.... http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/knivesdamaster/tags/sith_omguserbar_member.jpg
Stellar_Magic Posted March 27, 2006 Author Posted March 27, 2006 LOL Actually the Broadside looks pretty cool when you scale it to its proper 55 meter long size (Which makes it about as big as the falcon) and the Tartan fits pretty well into the universe, you can see why it never saw a lot of service too. A 300 meter long ship with one turbolaser and twenty laser cannons seems more of a waste of credits when a smaller ship could fit the same role of antistarfighter patrol ship. I guess thats why the imps dumped it when the lancer came out. Forum and RPG Membership:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsTC.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsRPG2.jpg Signature:Sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from Magic. -Arthur C. Clarke
Mikan Cyclone Posted March 27, 2006 Posted March 27, 2006 Unfortunately even Wookieepedia has its limitations. No one has made a page for the Broadside class yet, and the Tartan class page uses the Star Wars Databank as its only source. Ummm...yes they do. I edited it yesterday so it says 55 meters instead of 500. I mean, if it was five hundred, surely it would have like, gian t cannons..and more missiles...and...I dunno, Spikes! http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a245/loverdog/pffuserbar1.jpghttp://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i276/At-At_controller/leetspeak4cz1jr.gif
Stellar_Magic Posted March 27, 2006 Author Posted March 27, 2006 Well, when you tried to edit it they must've changed it back. I just edited it myself, and hopefully they won't trash it. Forum and RPG Membership:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsTC.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/StellarMagic01/RaporaWarsRPG2.jpg Signature:Sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from Magic. -Arthur C. Clarke
swgbex Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 1. The lancer is 200 meters long, the Tartan is by my estimates 300 meters long and by the estimates of Star Wars Databank 600 meters long. So the Tartan is significantly under gunned for a ship its size. maybe thats why it was replaced but i totally agree. databank is @^@#@3 Explicit deleted Wiki isnt exactly reliable either.. .. it depends.. sometimes yes.. sometimes.. eh.. :/ we just have to actually search for information we want.. :/. .damn http://www.swgbex.com/sig.jpgHehe IA 2 venator
Jobiwan7 Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 You can trust Wookieepedia for information. They have an extraordinarily strict canon policy. In fact, that's probably the reason your edits were changed: they don't appear in an official source--yet. I would always use Wookieepedia above the Databank, or regular Wiki. "God, I love complexity." -Stellar_Magic
swgbex Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 They should rename wiki pedia.. or even wookie pedia if we cant take wiki..we should rename it The archivesorThe Holocron well i have never heard of that rule but then again i dont post anything so i woulnt know. I guess since soo much of starwars is fan made .. http://www.swgbex.com/sig.jpgHehe IA 2 venator
Grand Admiral Thrawn 889 Posted September 30, 2006 Posted September 30, 2006 remember that WIkipedia is a publically edited encyclopedia so you cant trust everything on it. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/Admiral_Antilles/Thrawncopy.jpghttp://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3269/pffuserbar2globalmodnx9.jpg I Support the Resistance!
Mikan Cyclone Posted September 30, 2006 Posted September 30, 2006 While you can't trust everything, they are strict about vandalization and misinformation and things like that. Wookiepedia is even stricter, as they WILL change things to current canon if it is wrong. Like for instance, I tried to correct the Broadside's length back in the day...(holy crap it's in this topic!) And they corrected it. They're good on this stuff, you can trust them. http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a245/loverdog/pffuserbar1.jpghttp://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i276/At-At_controller/leetspeak4cz1jr.gif
VZaknaril Posted October 1, 2006 Posted October 1, 2006 I agree that Wookiepedia is probably the most comprehensive database of canon information available. Databank's problem is that there are so many "canon" sources these days; books, movies, etc. that "the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing". Wookiepedia tends to state all conflicting information (when there is some) and what sources it came from so the reader can draw their own conclusions in some cases. http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m83/qalsip/zak1_demo.jpghttp://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/sf/type/2/zaknaril.png
Grand Admiral Thrawn 889 Posted October 1, 2006 Posted October 1, 2006 thats about right for wikipedia. i have found wiki as a good source of info when i need it on fan fiction and canon. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/Admiral_Antilles/Thrawncopy.jpghttp://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3269/pffuserbar2globalmodnx9.jpg I Support the Resistance!
NOT Hadoken13 Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 fan fiction and canon. what else is there? my EAW online screen name [PFF]HAdoken13
Grand Admiral Thrawn 889 Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 lol the EU it doesnt have much on that. it has most but some is incomplete. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/Admiral_Antilles/Thrawncopy.jpghttp://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3269/pffuserbar2globalmodnx9.jpg I Support the Resistance!
Empireftw Posted November 14, 2006 Posted November 14, 2006 I agree i go their to learn more about the expanded universe since starwars.com seems to lack alot of info. http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a245/loverdog/pffuserbar2.jpg
Ghostly_Substance Posted November 24, 2006 Posted November 24, 2006 Funny thing is that the Databank is still wrong even since march -One Empire falls another riseshttp://myanimelist.net/signature/EuroSubstance.png http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/os/type/2/ghostlysubstance.png
Grand Admiral Thrawn 889 Posted February 11, 2007 Posted February 11, 2007 its always been wrong and those who go there to enhance there EU knowledge the best way to do that is the read the EU books. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/Admiral_Antilles/Thrawncopy.jpghttp://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3269/pffuserbar2globalmodnx9.jpg I Support the Resistance!
Droid803 Posted February 11, 2007 Posted February 11, 2007 Well, yes, a blunder on the part of databack screws up wookiepedia/wikipedia since technically its 100% canon and official, no matter how BS and wrong it semms. Solution: screw canon, do what looks and feels right. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/kc1991/droid803sig.jpg"That was fun"
admiral boty Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 I never used the Databank from the day I found info about Battlefront 2. It had less info then what I already knew about the game.. http://myspacebrand.com/userbars/1/european.gifhttp://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8792/empireuserbarru2.pnghttp://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3138/rcuserbarrz9.pnghttp://img48.imageshack.us/img48/6922/sweawubanso8.pnghttp://Hungarian.Socialist.Party.WillBeDefeated.com/
Grand Admiral Thrawn 889 Posted April 11, 2007 Posted April 11, 2007 i used to use it but then discovered that it was totally crude and for 10 year olds that don't have a clue about the EU normally. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/Admiral_Antilles/Thrawncopy.jpghttp://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3269/pffuserbar2globalmodnx9.jpg I Support the Resistance!
Logan Felipe Posted April 11, 2007 Posted April 11, 2007 Its a filler unit. Keep in mind that the Marauder never had diamond borons either; they were used by corporate sector authority, and had four fixed turbolasers. http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/sf/type/0/captainartenon.pnghttp://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Sith_Lords_EaW/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=5554600Alternate Sitehttp://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a245/loverdog/pffuserbar1.jpghttp://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6296/sweawuban0cg.pngPetition for Obsidian and Bioware to work on Knights of the Old Republic III together! 3926 Total Signatures and counting!SW Fanon Wiki entry - Captain Artenon"A fake news show on fox should have real news!" -Louis Black, The Daily Show.
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