Star Trek - Meets - Star Wars

[ZeJudge]

Hey everyone, hows it going.

 

We have a new mod in the making for EAW, Star Trek - Meets - Star Wars.

I have began making the models, need some help though.

 

Just goto our website, this link will be activated soon:

http://www.st-sw.vze.com

 

And this link we are using at the moment:

http://www.freewebs.com/startrekmeetsstarwars/index.htm

 

Any help making the mod would be very appriciated!

We need:

Modelers

Skinners/Texturing

Coding

Animation

 

Thanks,

Ze|Judge

Edited March 26, 2006 by Cain

[MajorPayne]

Hmmmm, didn't think it would be long before I seen this kind of topic.

 

Anyway, a couple of suggestions you might want to consider:

 

1) Becareful of your poly counts, considering that looking closely at the stock models they aren't as high as you might think, and,

2) You might want to head over to the likes of www.armadafleetcommand.com, www.armada2files.com, the Dynaverse forums and BCU forums for your trek model places.

 

Also be ready for the star wars purists and trekkies to whinge and whine about balance issues when you release your mod. Unfortunately its one of those things that always seem to happen. Oh and if you need anything specific, just ask. I might be able to help.

[ibyellow]

As i am not a purist i have to say i like this type of mod.  It increases the pure fun factor as opposed to total strategy. I find em more restfull LOL  ;D

 

Is there a Babylon 5 mod coming out too?  Probably will be soon if there isnt.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

One question. What software do you use to model? I use that rhino crap to add OPT's to XWA, but what software do you use for EAW. Just the modelling, not the importer or anything like that.

[ZeJudge]

Im using Maya 7.0.1

Very expensive.

 

I havent got a clue how to convert the models for the EAW model format.

[Mikan Cyclone]

I think this should be in the community mod project forum.

 

I like the idea, because I want to pummel those evil....things...Into the ground with a Super Star Destroyer.  A World Devastator would work also.

 

I might be able to help with coding, if you need it.  If I'm not to busy with the halo mod.

[ZeJudge]

Yeah, that'd be great!

 

Any help from anyone would be wicked.

Contact the leader of the project, you can find his email on the website.

 

http://www.freewebs.com/startrekmeetsstarwars/index.htm

[MajorPayne]

Now before anyone goes oohing and aaahing over these, I must stress that I do not create my own textures. There are far better people than me for that kind of job. However, just as an introduction heres a sample of the kinds of materials I have at my displosal. The Cardassian Dreadnought missile (second image for those that don't follow trek) is my rebuild of someone elses model (which was a good deal higher in polys than the one pictured). I do have a great deal of other models which could be used if the need arises, and this includes not just trek based.

 

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y279/major58/terok1.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y279/major58/csuper3.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y279/major58/complete1.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y279/major58/norway1.jpg

 

(Forgot to add these in my initial posting so I thought I'd show a few of now).

[ZeJudge]

I think they're pretty good m8!

 

Any chance you wonna help us out with the modeling?

 

What program are you using to create models?

[MajorPayne]

Well whilst I won't dedicate myself to any team I don't mind providing some models (helps to get things rolling). As for my modelling tool, I use Milkshape 3d for all modelling, and when the time is necessary I use 3dmax studio for converting purposes.

[OMEGA]

*cough* SOVEREIGN CLASS *cough*

 

Man, I need to get over this cold. ;D

 

How about some Borg cubes? That shouldn't be too hard to model....

[ZeJudge]

Ok, brilliant!

Cheers m8.

 

I was guna start making the sovereign class, but ive started on voyager.

How many polys are allowed on models in this game anyway?

I could go into so much detail on these models.

[Mikan Cyclone]

I don't know much about models, but I know 1,000 is a very popular number.

 

Also, why is everyone so obbsesed about the sovreign class?  From what I've read, virtually NOTHING is known about it, except for it's basic shape and weapons.

 

Maybe I'm missing something.  Personaly, I'd rather have an Eclipse.

[OMEGA]

Perhaps you should read up on it then. ;D

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_Class

 

Forget what it says, it's a HEAVILY ARMED BATTLESHIP.

 

It's also been called the Ferrari of the Star Trek universe where as other ships are the Pintos. I tend to agree witn them....

 

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4364/sovereign2xl.th.jpg

 

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5799/sovereignwarp1pi.th.jpg

[Mikan Cyclone]

Oh.  We're not talking about the same thing here. I was talking about this

 

The one I linked to is cooler.

 

I personally think all Star Trek is evil.  That's just me being raised as a Star Wars fanatic.  I had never even HEARD of Star Trek until I was like....nine or ten....

[OMEGA]

Well, we do have to have something to destroy. ;D Might as well make it look cool while we do it. That ship's pretty much the cream of the Star Trek crop. Might as well make an example of it....

 

Although, it's got to have some decent firepower to make it comparable to an ISD or two. Like I said before, some Borg cubes would help even it out as well. Maybe adding them as a separate faction....

 

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/9102/borgcube6bc.th.jpg

 

As you can see, just one of these massive vessels can not only fire many tractor beams at once *hint hint*, but is capable of taking on and entire fleet of Federation starships. It should give an armada of Imperial Star Destroyers quite a fight as well.

 

Perhaps we could modify Borg drones for ground use as well, and change the Emperor's Force Corrupt ability into an assimilation weapon against enemy troops. Then, once the planet is assimilated by the Borg, it could be re-skinned to show the new.... changes.

 

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4607/drone5ys.th.jpg

 

HA! Found this one funny, but don't worry. My Trekkie days are behind me. Devotion to the Sith Empire is my true calling now.

 

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/4268/yodaofborg9dp.th.jpg

[Stellar_Magic]

Well... I have a funny story about this once.  Using the game Star Trek: Bridge Commander I made a mod that added a number of ships from both the star trek and star wars universe.  Not only that I used actual measurements of firepower for weapons on both sides that came from a collection of ST vs SW sights along with the Star Trek technical commentaries.  I choose the calculations and estimates that appeared to be the most accurate to me and set to work.

 

The result was a surprisingly even match.  Star Trek ships have the ability to deliver a lot of firepower in one salvo from their torpedoes, but Star Wars ships can wear down an enemy's shields with a continuous barrage of weapons fire.

 

Any Star Trek ship of equal size can destroy any Star Wars ship of equal size.  So a Sabre class can kill a Corellian Corvette and vice versa.  The real deciding factor tended to be the captain's skill and luck.

 

The problems comes when you start looking at ships in what Star Wars defines as the Destroyer scale and larger (800 meters +).  If you look at the federation there are no real equivalents, and there seem to be only a handful of ships in the Star Trek universe that can take on an ISD.

 

Vessels that can challenge an ISD:

Romulan Warbird (Maybe, it'd probably lose though, but it would be a threat to a VSD or Mon Cal.)

Reman Scimitar (60 + Disruptor banks along with a large number of torpedo tubes make this a definite threat)

Borg Cube (100 + Weapon ports and the ability to adapt to the fire of an ISD make it a threat)

Tactical Borg Cube (Same as above)

Species 8472 Vessels (Lets just say the Vong would run from these guys)

[PipfunatUT]

this would be pretty cool...

[popetorak]

Im working on a Star Trek TC for EAW.

 

 

If you need any help, PM me. Just dont ask for help with graphics, I suck at it. My friend does all that.

 

 

SW uses lasers. Lasers wont penetrate the Enterprises hull (I think it was on the episode where the found Spock).

[MajorPayne]

Oh lets not start a trek vs wars debate. The bottom line is, if you make this kind of TC of which I've already made a start on my own personal version, you'll need to keep it semi balanced.

[ZeJudge]

My actual initial idea for the mod is to make upgrades to adapt the borg technology, as voyager did, and what happened, it could take a hell of a beating!

[Mikan Cyclone]

Omega, Stellar....I'm sorry to tell you this, and I don't want to start a debate, but...as you can see, the Empire is stronger than anything the pathetic Federation could pit up against it.

 

I hope I don't start a debate, but....well, there's the facts.  The empire will destroy the Federation in any scenario (except Federation ship vs. TIE)

 

Now I'm going to wash my mouth out with soap because I said Fedaration.  OH SNAPZ! I SAID IT AGAIN!

[DragonShadow]

Omega, Stellar....I'm sorry to tell you this, and I don't want to start a debate, but...as you can see, the Empire is stronger than anything the pathetic Federation could pit up against it.

 

I hope I don't start a debate, but....well, there's the facts.  The empire will destroy the Federation in any scenario (except Federation ship vs. TIE)

 

Now I'm going to wash my mouth out with soap because I said Fedaration.  OH SNAPZ! I SAID IT AGAIN!

 

It's true. Mile-and-a-half long ISDs are going to cream anything from any faction in Star Trek. The only possible threat is species 8472, and that's because they have that transdimensional technology and uber-powerful weapons.

[Stellar_Magic]

As I said before, most ships in Star Trek can destroy vessels that are roughly equivalent in size Star Wars ships.  But there are almost no ships roughly equal to an ISD in Star Wars.

 

I even used the technical information from StarDestroyer.net when researching for my experiments, its just that I didn't rely exclusively from one site when compiling my analysis.  The Trekkies have some good arguments on occasion and the yield of the Mark XXV Photon Torpedo is known from analysis of the shows.

 

A Borg Cube is a 3 kilometer by 3 kilometer mass of weapon systems, the Reman Scimitar has almost as many disruptor banks as a Star Destroyer has turbolasers, and unfortunately for you Star Wars rules all people, a starship turbolaser and a disruptor have almost identical yields.

 

I did not say at any point that the Federation would kick the Empire's but, it wouldn't.  25,000 ISDs would make even the collective might of the Borg Fleet stop and think.  In truth, Federation ships wouldn't be able to stand up against the major capital ships of the Empire, the largest vessel in the Federation arsenal is the Sovereign class which is only around 600 meters long.  It could kill a Carrack, and maybe even an Acclamator but against anything bigger.  Forget it.

[Spirit1flyer]

I hate to enter into any war over which is better 

But I decided I should make a statement of my side.

 

I have always been fairly neutral to which one was better but I could argue for a long time from either side. 

many times Han Solo would out maneuver the Star Destroyers. And it is well known that trek ships are smaller and faster then most Star wars ships over the size of a small frigate.  It does not matter if you have better weapons if you can't hit your enemy.

However on the other hand, Star Trek ships are not designed with fighter defence and Star Wars is well known for fielding large amounts of fighters.

those are just small examples and many more could be tossed out. But thats not why this thread is here.  Start a debate in the right forum if you want to fight.

 

 

Also be ready for the star wars purists and trekkies to whinge and whine about balance issues when you release your mod. Unfortunately its one of those things that always seem to happen. Oh and if you need anything specific, just ask. I might be able to help.

 

yep thats expected, But if they don't like it, fine by me.  I will consider all compaints and change the mod, If!  I find them valid.

 

As i am not a purist i have to say i like this type of mod.  It increases the pure fun factor as opposed to total strategy. I find em more restfull LOL

 

Well thats more of what we are after  ;D

 

I might be able to help with coding, if you need it.  If I'm not to busy with the halo mod.

 

We can always use help in anything. I would not know what to have you do at the moment just because we are still getting our feet under us

 

Now before anyone goes oohing and aaahing over these, I must stress that I do not create my own textures. There are far better people than me for that kind of job. However, just as an introduction heres a sample of the kinds of materials I have at my displosal. The Cardassian Dreadnought missile (second image for those that don't follow trek) is my rebuild of someone elses model (which was a good deal higher in polys than the one pictured). I do have a great deal of other models which could be used if the need arises, and this includes not just trek based.

 

is that star trek Armada 2?

 

Perhaps we could modify Borg drones for ground use as well, and change the Emperor's Force Corrupt ability into an assimilation weapon against enemy troops. Then, once the planet is assimilated by the Borg, it could be re-skinned to show the new.... changes.

 

I was looking into the assimilation weapon idea but as I said, We are still getting the mod going.

 

If anyone has any questions post here, the mod site or send me a E-mail

 

 

Spirit1flyer

 

btw  Can one of the moderators move this thread to the EAW Hosted Community Projects forum?

Edited March 27, 2006 by Spirit1flyer