Re: How do you make Pirate Ships,Bases, and Merchanary Ships Buildable?

[Saron2of4]

Does anyone know how to make Pirate Ships,Bases, and Merchanary Ships available? Also does anyone know how you add text to allow ships such as the Venators,Shadowclaw,Pirate Ships,etc to have names like the SD,MC etc and have them work in game? I've tried and well ???. Help please. Also how do you up the size of a ship  say like the Absolution make it bigger than the other Venator's?

[Saron2of4]

Anybody?

[Mikan Cyclone]

Someone needs to just make a mod that adds all the pirate forces as buildable units to the game.  That would help a LOT of people.

 

Pirate bases:  No way.  I have no idea on how this is done.  AndI don't wnat to even try to analyze space station stuff.

 

I think some of my mods enabled venator accidently....I just added the Shadowclaw.  try asking dookie whenever he's on about the pirate ships.

[Saron2of4]

Yeah the Shadowclaw is cool do you have any idea on how to give it missles and Turbolasers? I'll wait for someone to answer on the Pirate/Merchanary thing.

[TheDesertFox]

I'm not completely sure, but this is how I presume you would enable pirate/merchant ships.  You need to go into squadrons.xml and find the pirate squadrons.  However, the pirate units all have pirate/empire/rebel affiliations.  My guess is that this is so anyone can build them from a merchant post thing.  To disallow factions from actually building them in GC, they have a required tech level set to 6.  If you want both empire and rebel to be able to build them, set the tech level to 1 or something.  I believe rebel goes from 0-4 and empire from 1-5.  You then need to set their build cost and build time to something other than 0.  Then, insert this line near build time/build cost:

 

Yes

 

If you want to make it so that only rebel or only imperial can build it, my guess is you have to make a new squadron, and just rename it with a _R or _E at the end.  Just copy/paste the code, change the above stuff, and under affiliation, set rebel or empire. 

 

If you want them to be available in skirmish mode, that's much easier.  Just open up starbases.xml, go down to the skirmish star base code (it's near the bottom of the file...there are like 4 or 5 for reb and imp....looks like this : Skirmish_Empire_Star_Base_1).  Then, scroll down untill you find Tactical_Buildable_Objects_Multiplayer, and then insert the unit you wish to be buildable.  You must do this for every starbase level you want it to be buildable at.

 

To edit the text files, you need to use a .dat editor which is on about every EaW site.  The names of the units are defined in the Text_ID tag, and then you have encyclopedia texts, which are the long descriptions, and encyclopedia unit class, which lets you define it as fighters or frigates, etc...or anything you want.  However, I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to change there.  Do you want specific names (like the Accuser for the SD) for the ships, or do you just want to call them something different? 

[Saron2of4]

No I mean like you know when you go into battle the SD's etc have names like VSD Bombard,Dominator etc I'm trying to do this for the Venator's,etc. I've tried adding Yes

and have tried this with the ones made for Empire Rebel and still ??? > help? Pirate  Firgate Ship.

Edited March 12, 2006 by Sarron2of4

[TheDesertFox]

oh, wow.  I never even noticed this.  I'll have to look into that.  Learn something new every day.

[Saron2of4]

I've tried adding Yes

and have tried this with the ones made for Empire Rebel and still  help? Pirate  Firgate Ship. Still stumped.

[Saron2of4]

Never Mind I've now got it enabled :-*. Thanks all. Now how about those other units like Skiff , Swamp Speeder  Pirate Infantry and Pirate Plex Soilders as well as a Ranchor etc.? I want to make these buildable (at Planets like Tatooine,Kessel etc) Planning on a little mini mod for myself and anyone else who may want. If I can get permission with credits to those who released their mods Malikovski's Unlock Late Republic Units,ShadowTroopers The Absolution,Z3r0x's 64 planet mod,and Mikan Cyclones Shadowclaw mod. Also a few other goodies . Anyway help very much appreciated as well permission if not then just happy with everyones great work . Edited March 12, 2006 by Sarron2of4

[z3r0x]

Is it me or does the Pirate frigate look identical to a Dreadnaught heavy cruiser... Just a tad smaller...

[DragonShadow]

Is it me or does the Pirate frigate look identical to a Dreadnaught heavy cruiser... Just a tad smaller...

 

Nope...it's similar to the Action V (or IV or VI, some roman numeral with a V), but nothing like the Dreadnaught.

[Mikan Cyclone]

Yeah, it looks like the Wild Karrde without that bar thing. 

[z3r0x]

Actually...  I looked at it more... Its a Imperial Carrack  Light Cruiser.

[Mikan Cyclone]

No, it's an Action V or something.  I looked it up on wookiepedia and it redirected me to an Action transport.  Also, it said this:

Pirates often modified Action VI ships as "interceptor frigates" capable of combatting starfighters and corvettes.

[DragonShadow]

No, it's an Action V or something.  I looked it up on wookiepedia and it redirected me to an Action transport.  Also, it said this:

 

And the Pirate frigates in EaW are called Pirate Interceptor Frigates. Case closed...

[z3r0x]

Mikan and Dragon... Look at that picture... that does NOT look like the ship. The backend does.. the rest does not. It resembles it.. but they all look alike. Plus the size.. The pirate frigate is HUGE. Its as big as the Acclamator. The Acclamator is 752 Meters long. That action V thing is 125 meters. The Carrack Class is 350 meters. If we use the scale.. and then figure in how bad off Petro got the scales down.. on some ships (they did the best they could) then you can deduce that the Acclamator has been scaled down. The pirate frigate was scaled up.. a bit. Ok check out these sizes...

 

Eclipse Class ISD 17,500m

Imperial Class ISD 1600m

Interdictor ISD     1600m

Venator Class      1137m

Victory Class         900m

Acclamator           752m

Tartan                 600m

Broadside Cruiser   500m

Carrack Class        350m

Lancer Class         250m

Action V-VI          125m

IPV-1                  120m

 

If that pirate frigate IS a Action V it needs to be scaled WAY WAY down. Down to the size of the IPV-1 at least.

 

 

Pics..

Carrack Class

http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/Carrack-class_light_cruiser

Action VI

http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/Action_VI_transport

 

Neither of them look exaclty like the ship in the game...

[MistenTH]

The affiliation must be set to Rebel / Empire as well for those factions to build it.

[JaiOwl]

Personally I think its closer to being a Bulk Cruiser than anything else ... imo

[Mikan Cyclone]

I don't think it looks ANYTHING like a Bulk Cruiser, Or a Carrack for that matter.  The carrack is pretty much thicker all around, and it doesn't have any type of neck.  The interceptor does.  And while the Action VI doesn't look exactly ike it, it looks close enough like it to tell that the interceptor is an Action transport.  Also, HOW THE CRAP WOULD PIRATES GET A CARRACK ANYWAY?!

[DragonShadow]

It is not a Carrack cruiser. The only reason it's so big is because (not to insult the developers) like many units (Neb-B, starfighters, etc.) it's not correctly scaled. It isn't remotely similar to a Carrack Cruiser. It is similar enough to the Action VI freighter that it is likely an Action V or IV, somewhere in the Action series of freighters. End Rant.

[Stellar_Magic]

Eclipse Class ISD 17,500m

Imperial Class ISD 1600m

Interdictor ISD    1600m

Venator Class      1137m

Victory Class        900m

Acclamator          752m

Tartan                600m

Broadside Cruiser  500m

Carrack Class        350m

Lancer Class        250m

Action V-VI          125m

IPV-1                  120m

 

Just so you know, Star Wars Databank has the incorrect size for EAW units.  I've done an analysis of the new unit's concept art which includes known ships for scaling and come up with a much different scale for the units.

 

Assault Frigate mk.2 660m

Tartan 300m

Broadside 55m

 

Interdictor ISD    1600m

 

Is this the Dominator class ISD? the Im418 Immobilizer class interdictor is only 600 meters long.

[DragonShadow]

The Dominator would be 1600 m long, so it must be. Anyway, how is the Tartan 300 m and the Broadside 55? The Broadside is bigger than the Tartan...isn't it? I haven't played the game in several days, so I might be wrong.

[Mikan Cyclone]

In EAW, they're about the same size.  I have no idea how they look in the real universe though.

[z3r0x]

If you ever read The Han Solo triolgy the Pirates in the battle of Nar Shadda had a Captured Carrack Cruiser... they used. I think they also had 2-3 Lancer Frigates also. The neck is similar to action.. but check out the pic of the carrack from the top.... that looks damn close to the Pirate frigate. I doubt the desigbners got the scale THAT off.. also.. the Tartan in the game is almost identical in length to the Broadside.. and that would jibe with the spec of Tartan 600m and Broadside 500m. Also.. there ISD's are 1600m... Mk1's and  Mk2's were 1600 same as the Interdictor. The desiginers seem to be off in 4-5 areas.. the Size of the Moncal Cruisers... the ISD's and the Victory SD's. But again they scaled them all to work with the ISD size. Also.. doesnt the Pirate frigate spawn fighters? I dont remember if it does not. But c'mon, 125m would make it the size of the IPV-1. I doubt they were THAT off.

[DragonShadow]

The pirate frigate doesn't spawn fighters. And tha carrack looks nothing like the pirate frigate. The Tartan is easily the Carrack's little brother, but the Pirate frigate is very clearly from the Action series of ships.